From: owner-lucy-list-digest@smoe.org (lucy-list-digest) To: lucy-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: lucy-list-digest V2 #26 Reply-To: lucy-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-lucy-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-lucy-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk lucy-list-digest Wednesday, February 2 2000 Volume 02 : Number 026 In this issue: Re: [lucy-list] YAHOOOOO!!!!! (AKA Lucy in Oxford) [lucy-list] Eric Bogle Re: [lucy-list] YAHOOOOO!!!!! (AKA Lucy in Oxford) Re: [lucy-list] Eric Bogle [lucy-list] Toronto Globe and Mail article Re: [lucy-list] Toronto Globe and Mail article Re: [lucy-list] YAHOOOOO!!!!! (AKA Lucy in Oxford) [lucy-list] Toronto Globe and Mail article Re: [lucy-list] YAHOOOOO!!!!! (AKA Lucy in Oxford) [lucy-list] all caps Re: [lucy-list] Toronto Globe and Mail article Re: [lucy-list] Toronto Globe and Mail article ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 08:36:08 -0500 From: Greg Steele Subject: Re: [lucy-list] YAHOOOOO!!!!! (AKA Lucy in Oxford) Shadyt2911@aol.com wrote: > > I JUST SIGNED UP FOR THIS CHAT I REALLY DON'T NOW HOW IT WORKS... FYI First, this is more like a bulletin board than a chatroom, so you won't get immediate responses and B) please don't use all caps, it looks like you're SHOUTING! :-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 09:42:28 EST From: Asdalin@aol.com Subject: [lucy-list] Eric Bogle I also love Tom Paxton -- a fun performer and what an amazing songwriter. I never tire of seeing him perform. I didn't know that Tom ever played with Eric Bogle. My husband and I discovered him about 20 years ago at a folk fest in Vermont. He wrote a beautiful song called, "And the Band Played Waltzing Matilda." One of the saddest and most beautiful songs I've ever heard. He also wrote a song about his childhood hero, Roy Rogers -- a lovely song that reminds of my days watching The Roy Rogers Show every Saturday morning (I think they were repeats). Just hearing Eric Bogle's name sure brings back good memories. Thanks. PS Harvey, Eric's songs make me cry. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:29:42 EST From: Shadyt2911@aol.com Subject: Re: [lucy-list] YAHOOOOO!!!!! (AKA Lucy in Oxford) Now, Lucy realistically, do you really think I was shouting and do you anybody else did. Come on we're using computers here. jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 17:49:25 -0800 From: "dunfionn" Subject: Re: [lucy-list] Eric Bogle What a nice response, he really was great. Does Paxton still play a lot of gigs in the US? I heard he suffers from depression, and sometimes finds performing difficult, don't know if that's true though. We seem pretty lucky here in Glasgow, some great pickers pass through. We've had Lucy play twice in '99 already, wonder when Kate Campbell will play? Regards Walter from Glasgow - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 6:42 AM Subject: [lucy-list] Eric Bogle > I also love Tom Paxton -- a fun performer and what an amazing songwriter. I never tire of seeing him perform. > > I didn't know that Tom ever played with Eric Bogle. My husband and I discovered him about 20 years ago at a folk fest in Vermont. He wrote a beautiful song called, "And the Band Played Waltzing Matilda." One of the saddest and most beautiful songs I've ever heard. He also wrote a song about his childhood hero, Roy Rogers -- a lovely song that reminds of my days watching The Roy Rogers Show every Saturday morning (I think they were repeats). > > Just hearing Eric Bogle's name sure brings back good memories. Thanks. > > PS Harvey, Eric's songs make me cry. > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 14:47:15 -0500 From: "MVM" Subject: [lucy-list] Toronto Globe and Mail article http://www.globeandmail.com/hubs/arts.html Go here and do a "7 day search" for Lucy Kaplansky. There's an article about her in today's Arts section, with several Nanci Griffith references. Vicki ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 15:13:29 EST From: Shadyt2911@aol.com Subject: Re: [lucy-list] Toronto Globe and Mail article thanks for the info, a lot of people was busting my ass for accidentally using large caps ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:29:56 -0800 (PST) From: John Alvord Subject: Re: [lucy-list] YAHOOOOO!!!!! (AKA Lucy in Oxford) On Tue, 1 Feb 2000 Shadyt2911@aol.com wrote: > Now, Lucy realistically, do you really think I was shouting and do you > anybody else did. Come on we're using computers here. Actually, a while ago I saw a post on another mailing list, which someone had transmitted from an internet enabled cell-phone. Upper case was apparently the only option... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 17:21:30 -0500 From: patrick t power Subject: [lucy-list] Toronto Globe and Mail article To make things a bit easier on y'all . . . I thought I'd post this. Oh, darn!! I forgot to get permission!! Pat * * * * * * * THE THERAPIST WHO QUIT HER DAY JOB Lucy Kaplansky took almost 20 years to join the top ranks of singer-songwriters GORDON PITTS The Globe and Mail Tuesday, February 1, 2000 Toronto -- Lucy Kaplansky spent more than a decade running away from fame. Now that it has her in its grasp, she is learning to savour the experience. "In the last few months, something has changed, it's really exciting," says the New York-based singer-songwriter, whose new album, Ten Year Night, has been winning critical acclaim. At almost 40, it's late to be an overnight success. But Kaplansky was sidetracked by an entire other career -- as a psychologist and therapist. She only fully embraced singing six years ago. She has had a complicated relationship with celebrity, the kind only a psychologist could understand. It took a startling conversation with her own therapist to shock her out of it. "Why did it take so long?" she ponders in a telephone interview from New York. "It was fear of failing, fear of not being as good as I fantasized I could be." Ten Year Night has put to rest those fears. It has established her position among the top ranks of female singer-songwriters, joining friends and sometimes collaborators Shawn Colvin, Dar Williams, Nanci Griffith and Suzanne Vega. But Ten Year Night is no plaintive folkie classic -- it's a piece of sexy urban folk/pop, driven by Kaplansky's supple soprano voice. She is also coming off a highly satisfying one-year tour of duty with Cry Cry Cry, the "folk supergroup" she formed with Williams, a witty observer of modern times, and Richard Shindell, a soaringly powerful balladeer. All three are stars in the world of Northeastern U.S. folk music. Now, as they had planned, they have wound down their group after just one album, also called Cry Cry Cry. It's a harmonic gem that covers the work of other intriguing songwriters, such as Canadians Ron Sexsmith and James Keelaghan. "Cry Cry Cry was fantastic for my career," Kaplansky says. "It was Dar's and Richard's idea, but no one had any idea it would be so successful. The songs were so good, the chemistry was so good." The three singers preferred to end Cry Cry Cry while people loved it, rather than just see it fade over time. Kaplansky is performing in Toronto on Sunday at the Tranzac Club, in a concert organized by the Mariposa Folk Foundation. She has wanted a Toronto gig for a long time because it would allow a family reunion. She has more than 50 close relatives in the city. Lucy's father grew up in Toronto where his family ran -- and later sold -- the Health Bread chain of bakeries. He left as a young man to attend graduate school, and ultimately became a mathematics professor at the University of Chicago. Born in Chicago, Lucy attended a high school where half the kids were offspring of University of Chicago academics. In the 1970s, the city was a folk-music hotbed, led by rising stars Steve Goodman and John Prine. Just out of high school she sang in a duo "with the incredibly nauseous seventies name of Steps in Flight." Her male partner insisted that they join the folk revival centred on Greenwich Village in New York. So Kaplansky abandoned her parents' college dreams and travelled east. But the two split up and Lucy worked on her own as a girl-and-her-guitar act. A New York Times critic saw her sing and loved her. But a few months later, a panicked Kaplansky quit full-time singing because, she told herself, she wasn't happy. Yet she kept on performing on the side. "Anybody with half a brain would know I was in conflict." The pattern kept repeating -- the flirtation with fame, then the retreat. She hooked up with Shawn Colvin, another aspiring folksinger, and the two played first for weddings and parties. But Lucy was at university now, intent to become a therapist. When a big record label offered her and Colvin a contract, she insisted she was not a professional singer. "Shawn looked at me in total shock and said, 'I guess I've got to do it on my own.' " Kaplansky had a divided life: She was an occasional backup singer for albums by John Gorka, Nanci Griffith and Colvin, who was crafting a successful career. After getting her doctorate, she went to work at a New York hospital where she handled tough cases of chronic mental illness, while building up a private practice. She now believes she didn't even want to be a psychologist -- she just needed to understand her own problems. She suspects that is the motivation of a lot of people who get into psychology. The turning point came in 1993, when she saw a new therapist for herself. At one point she blurted out that " 'I wouldn't want what Shawn has.' What I meant was famous, rich and successful. And he asked 'Why not?' I started to answer and I realized I didn't have an answer . . . It was the right question at the right time. I had not let myself have what I wanted the most." Kaplansky got serious about her music. She had already completed an album, called The Tide,which was produced by Colvin and was launched to positive reviews in 1994. There was no turning back and she began to wind down her practice. She followed with Flesh and Bone in 1996. Then came her collaboration with Cry Cry Cry,and last year's release of Ten Year Night. The songs on the new album were co-written with her husband Richard Litvin, a professor of film and television at New York University. There is no deliberate theme, she admits, but many of the pieces are about self-realization, about finally doing what you really want to do. The title track is a retrospective on her relationship with her husband: We're ten years older I know we are Than the night we met in that downtown bar You thought I was some kind of a star, that's what you said. I felt your skin, I felt the heat As you pulled me out into the street And you kissed me there till I was weak, cause I asked you to And later on your kitchen floor Two flights above the grocery store I felt things I never felt before, and I still do Yes, she did meet Litvin in a bar, and he did think she was a star. When she kept insisting she was going to be a therapist, "he thought I was nuts." She credits her husband with quietly sitting back and letting her work her way through her conflict. "Musically this album is the most accurate representation of who I am," Kaplansky says. "It's not a folk album, but I don't know what that is anymore. It's definitely not just a girl and her guitar." Lucy Kaplansky's only Canadian date this winter is at Toronto's Tranzac Club, 292 Brunswick Ave., on Sunday, Feb. 6. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 18:38:04 EST From: Wblr4@aol.com Subject: Re: [lucy-list] YAHOOOOO!!!!! (AKA Lucy in Oxford) In a message dated 2/1/00 8:04:17 AM Central Standard Time, gsteele@steelerubber.com writes: << please don't use all caps, it looks like you're SHOUTING! :-) >> Wow, tough crowd!!! wbe ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 19:08:33 -0500 From: "Tom Neff" Subject: [lucy-list] all caps That was standard (and good) advice, there's nothing "tough crowd" about it. http://www.42.com/rasmusoftwares/shopsite/allcaps.html http://www.berean-houston.org/Netiquette.htm http://www.ermine.ca/~courtesy/ask.html http://www.citytel.net/library/internet_email2.html http://www.cwrl.utexas.edu/~roberts/netiquette.html http://www.albion.com/netiquette/book/0963702513p61.html http://www.newusers.com/netiquette.htm http://www.sc.edu/bck2skol/fall/lesson11.html etc, etc, etc. In this shared medium, we all learn and teach others. There are places on the Net where this process doesn't happen, and you would not want to spend much time there, believe me. :) > -----Original Message----- > << please don't use all caps, it looks like you're SHOUTING! :-) >> > > Wow, tough crowd!!! > > wbe ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 20:33:59 EST From: Wblr4@aol.com Subject: Re: [lucy-list] Toronto Globe and Mail article It drives me crazy..we are going to be in Toronto at the end of the month....what a bad break...that would have been too funny to have stumbled on a Lucy show after having seen her just two weeks earlier in Pittsburgh!! Thanks for the great post. wbe ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 21:39:45 EST From: Steeleye99@aol.com Subject: Re: [lucy-list] Toronto Globe and Mail article Good Article. Thanks for posting it. 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