From: owner-lucy-list-digest@smoe.org (lucy-list-digest) To: lucy-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: lucy-list-digest V1 #280 Reply-To: lucy-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-lucy-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-lucy-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk lucy-list-digest Wednesday, January 5 2000 Volume 01 : Number 280 In this issue: [lucy-list] Sigh Sigh Sigh [lucy-list] Re: lucy-list-digest V1 #279 Re: [lucy-list] Re: lucy-list-digest V1 #278 [lucy-list] Cry 3 t-shirt/ Upcoming London concerts [lucy-list] Liz Queler [lucy-list] Top Artists etc. [lucy-list] Re: lucy-list-digest V1 #279 [lucy-list] makor concert, cover charges ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 08:31:15 EST From: RockinRonD@aol.com Subject: [lucy-list] Sigh Sigh Sigh In a message dated 1/4/2000 3:17:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, RonG writes: << Ironically, the news is that last night's show was the C3 "official" swan song. >> The end of Cry3 is even more a shame when one considers what the trio might have come up with in a follow-up effort. To wit: all three are heard in three-part harmonies on Buddy and Julie MIller's "My Love Will Follow You" on Richard's upcoming "Somewhere Near Paterson" and it is one of the highlights of this otherwise magnificent record. Irony of ironies, I have never been all that fond of this Miller song and neither have I liked the way Richard did it in his solo performances of late. But with Dar and Lucy on it, that triple-voice-homogenizing-into one thing happens again and it's sheer magic and beauty. I'm only surprised there isn't more Dar and Lucy (Lucy sans Dar appears again on another track, "Waiting For The Storm") on SNP. But then again, the songs on the balance of the record are so powerful they need nothing more than Richard's urgent, emotive voice. Hard to imagine a more important work by a singer/songwriter surfacing in 2000. That's how good SNP truly is. Ron ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 09:05:34 EST From: Scharri@aol.com Subject: [lucy-list] Re: lucy-list-digest V1 #279 For at least the past five years, several of us have suggested (OK, begged) Lucy and Richard to do a CD together. Lucy and Richard separately have said they are thinking of doing it after Richard's CD is released. Throw in a little John Gorka here and there, a little Radislov Lorkavic and it would be a masterpiece. ????Anyone out there from Carlisle, PA? I'm not sure if I read Musi-cal correctly but, is LUCY, Cheryl Wheeler AND Christine Lavin really playing together on the 28th? That would be a hoot of a show! Sue ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 14:24:18 -0000 From: "Dunfionn" Subject: Re: [lucy-list] Re: lucy-list-digest V1 #278 I interviewed Lucy in mid October. She was adamant that there would be no more Cry 3, and that the album was a one-off. I bet if it started selling millions of copies she would change her mind-so tell all your friends, you never know. I'm still working out how to put a transcript of the interview onto the list, web site coming up some time in the next thousand years! I would like to take this opportunity to wish all Lucy Listers a Happy Milleneum. Hopefully in the coming year we might get a chance to meet in more than just Cyberspace! Walter from Glasgow ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 20:26:05 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?kay=20melmoth?= Subject: [lucy-list] Cry 3 t-shirt/ Upcoming London concerts HI, How is it that a Cry 3 t-shirt sent from the US on Dec 29 to the UK, arrives at my house on the same day as a travel pass sent first class in the UK also on Dec 29? Ah well. Are any other UK-based listers going to either the London John Prine/Iris Dement concert (Jan 15) or the London Beth Nielsen Chapman concert (Jan 17)? Kay ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Jan 1980 18:22:58 -0500 From: Paul Rafanello Subject: [lucy-list] Liz Queler For those of you who are Liz Queler fans like myself, (Liz & hubby Seth Farber are Cliff Eberhardt's backup band), Lucy sang backup on a track on her next album which is due out in March. The track is called "Shakespear Avenue". Can't wait! Paul Rafanello intone@warwick.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 21:10:27 -0500 From: eric Subject: [lucy-list] Top Artists etc. this showed up on the greg brown list: >From: Richard Gillmann >To: FOLKDJ-L@LISTS.PSU.EDU >Subject: Top Artists of 1999 >Date: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 5:46:27 PM >TOP ARTISTS OF 1999 >Compiled by Richard Gillmann (rxg@nwlink.com) from FOLKDJ-L radio playlists >Based on 118511 airplays. >1. Cheryl Wheeler (530) >2. Greg Brown (461) >3. John Gorka (419) >4. Bill Monroe (378) >5. Brooks Williams (356) >6. Bob Dylan (354) >7. Lucy Kaplansky (346) >23. Dar Williams, Lucy Kaplansky And Richard Shindell (258) a fantastic showing by lucy. just imagine: "oh, shit, dylan beat me by 8 votes..." on another note, a question: was anyone else surprised to see Ten Year Night (or Cry Cry Cry, for that matter ) not nominated for a grammy in the folk category? not that the Grammys are indicative of anything in the music-for-music's sake world. in fact, was TYN even eligible for this year's balloting? (i'm unsure of the start and cutoff dates in the grammy world -- to me, 1999 was the period of time between january 1 and december 31.) and one more bone to pick: what the hell is tom waits' "mule variations" doing in the "best contemporary folk" category? i guess they had no where else to put him. tom waits is one of my favorites, but "folk"? jeezius christ... - - eric. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 18:57:06 -0500 From: patrick t power Subject: [lucy-list] Re: lucy-list-digest V1 #279 For those of you who might be interested . . . Pat * * * * * Category 61 - Best Traditional Folk Album For Albums only. For solo artists, duos or groups, vocal or instrumental. Nominees Press On June Carter Cash [Risk/Small Hairy Dog Records] The Long Ride Ramblin' Jack Elliott [Hightone Records] Retrograss David Grisman, John Hartford & Mike Seeger [Acoustic Disc] Songs Of Mississippi John Hurt Bill Morrissey [Philo Records] Third Generation Blues Doc & Richard Watson [Sugar Hill Records] Category 62 - Best Contemporary Folk Album For Albums only. For solo artists, duos or groups, vocal or instrumental. Nominees Cajunization Beausoleil [Rhino Records] Fellow Workers Ani Difranco & Utah Phillips [Righteous Babe Records] In Spite Of Ourselves John Prine [Oh Boy Records] Western Wall - The Tucson Sessions Linda Ronstadt & Emmylou Harris [Asylum Records] Mule Variations Tom Waits [Anti/Epitaph Records] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 23:52:39 -0400 From: Benay Bubar Subject: [lucy-list] makor concert, cover charges Well, I'm just back from Lucy's concert at Makor, and I thought (as usual) that she was WONDERFUL. I was especially delighted that she did "The Song About Pi" and "The Eyes of My Beholder"...the first I'd never heard at all before, and the second I'd never heard her do live. (Fortunate that she broke a guitar string, I guess...otherwise she wouldn't have done "The Eyes of My Beholder" a cappella, and I would have hated to miss that.) I could have listened to her forever. Unfortunately, I don't have the time now to do a longer review of the concert because there's something else I want to say. Lucy's performance aside, I left Makor tonight feeling VERY disgruntled. I'd bought my ticket weeks ago, and a friend who came with me bought hers today, and no mention was made at any time of any charge beyond the $12 for the ticket. When we were seated and the waitress came around, my friend and I both ordered a drink which, as it turned out, was unavailable. My friend had a different drink, and I said I didn't want anything after all (the concert had started by then, and I was listening to Lucy anyway). The waitress didn't say anything. Two hours later, as we were about to leave, the waitress informed us in no uncertain terms that there was a $10 minimum for drinks. She pointed it out, printed in TINY letters on the menu, and proceeded to force me to pay $10 and my friend to pay an extra $5 since she'd only had one drink. I said this seemed very unfair, since I hadn't been aware that there was a minimum when I'd bought the ticket or even when I'd come in for the concert, and I hadn't in fact HAD any drinks. I was told that I could take it up with the manager at the bar, which I did...he was not only unapologetic, but extremely rude, telling me that it had been on the menu and on the Makor programs and that there was no way I could NOT have known about it. Now, I know these places have to make money, but I've never had this kind of experience even in the other places that technically have a minimum (the Bottom Line, etc.). There are times when I drink the minimum, but there have been some occasions when I haven't---I'm just not a big drinker---and NEVER before has the wait staff demanded that I pay for drinks I haven't had. Ultimately, those places do make more money off of me, since I go back for other concerts, bring friends when I can, etc. In any case, even with Makor I wouldn't have had as much of a problem if it had been CLEARLY told to me before I bought my Lucy ticket that there was a $10 drink minimum that was strictly enforced...even better, if they were going to be THAT strict about it, why didn't they just charge $22 for the concert and say the first $10 worth of drinks were free with admission? They'd have made the same amount of money, and it would have been honest. As it was, I left what had been a very good concert with a very bad feeling. I'd bought a ticket to see the Nields at Makor next week, and I'm going to sleep on it first, but I'm pretty sure I'm going to cancel and ask for my money back (and possibly write a letter of complaint). I'm not usually easily angered, and I know this may seem like a lot of fuss over $10, but I'm not wealthy and that's a considerable amount of money to me. Being forced to fork it over at the last minute for absolutely NOTHING because of a policy that hadn't been clarified to me was very disturbing. It's too bad...Makor really seemed like a great new venue, and I was looking forward to attending more concerts and possibly other events there. Now, because of a policy that I think is both deceitful and mean-spirited, I am losing those opportunities and they are losing my business. Am I being unreasonable? I'd like to know what other people think. I know this message didn't contain much about Lucy, but a lot of us do go to these concerts, so I think it relates... Benay ------------------------------ End of lucy-list-digest V1 #280 ******************************* This has been a posting from the Lucy Kaplansky mail list digest To unsubscribe send mail to Majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe lucy-list-digest" in the body of the message