From: owner-lucy-list-digest@smoe.org (lucy-list-digest) To: lucy-list-digest@smoe.org Subject: lucy-list-digest V1 #73 Reply-To: lucy-list@smoe.org Sender: owner-lucy-list-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-lucy-list-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk lucy-list-digest Monday, May 10 1999 Volume 01 : Number 073 In this issue: [lucy-list] For Ron "Jelly Roll" Greitzer Re: [lucy-list] For Ron "Jelly Roll" Greitzer Re: [lucy-list] For Ron "Jelly Roll" Greitzer [lucy-list] Tom Russell [lucy-list] Richard & Lucy Live cuts [lucy-list] Cry3 Re: [lucy-list] Richard & Lucy Live cuts [lucy-list] Lucy-family roots [lucy-list] Origin of Cry Cry Cry RE: [lucy-list] Richard & Lucy Live cuts ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 04:55:36 EDT From: RockinRonD@aol.com Subject: [lucy-list] For Ron "Jelly Roll" Greitzer In a message dated 5/9/99 7:17:47 AM !!!First Boot!!!, RonG writes:<< I'd call it sad and tragic, and (as Tom Russell described it in the liner notes to his wonderful Shindell-esque CD called "Cowboy Real") the "best cowboy twist-of-fate song" ever written. Using RottenRon's definition, here are some other famous blues songs: >> I reiterate...Bluesy in feeling doesn't necessarily mean it's a blues song. It just means it's bluesy in feeling. "Rotten" Ron -- A Cheap Shot. RDG ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 09:51:14 EDT From: Rongrittz@aol.com Subject: Re: [lucy-list] For Ron "Jelly Roll" Greitzer << Bluesy in feeling doesn't necessarily mean it's a blues song. It just means it's bluesy in feeling. "Rotten" Ron -- A Cheap Shot. >> Not a cheap shot at all . . . it's just your blues name. And anyway, Rotten doesn't necessarily mean rotten. It just means rotten in feeling. ;-) Gotcha, RG ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 09:40:39 -0500 (CDT) From: Car41@webtv.net Subject: Re: [lucy-list] For Ron "Jelly Roll" Greitzer Sounded like a 'cheap shot' to me. This whole string has gotten pretty tiresome. –R. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 11:23:31 -0400 From: patrick t power Subject: [lucy-list] Tom Russell I realize this is not Lucy-related, but since most of us listen to more than just one performer and are likely always looking for something new . . . . . . but Ron "Blind Gourd" Greitzer wrote: <> Tom Russell's latest CD, "The Man From God Knows Where" is a very cool record which, to some extent, traces his ancestory back to Ireland and elsewhere. From his liner notes: "So, 'The Man From God Knows Where' stops off in a tavern, begs a pint, and begins to sing. He summons his ancestors up from their graves and bids them tell their story." It features performances by Iris DeMent, Dave Van Ronk, Dolores Keane and others. It's a tour de force I'd recommend highly to check out. Pat ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 12:09:15 -0400 From: "Pat Grismore" Subject: [lucy-list] Richard & Lucy Live cuts Hi All, I haven't seen this discussed here, so I thought I'd bring it up for those who are not aware of it. The CD is called "W. 4th & 6th Ave" Greenwich Village Folk Festival (Gadfly 222) Lucy does a Cliff Eberhardt tune called "Brake A Train", and Richard does his "Arrowhead". They were recorded in 1993 at the Washington Square Church in Greenwich Village. The other artists on the CD include Jim Infantino, Paul Siebel, Amy & Leslie, Pat Kilbride, and David Massengill. Does anyone know of any other live or compilation discs Lucy has appeared on? I am aware of the Fast Folk collections, but am not sure how many she was on. Pat Grismore ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 12:13:52 EDT From: CrZ4Indigo@aol.com Subject: [lucy-list] Cry3 When they were on tour they explained that the name came from a Johnny Cash song. I believe it's also explained inside the CD Cry3. ~Alyssa ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 13:47:15 EDT From: Rongrittz@aol.com Subject: Re: [lucy-list] Richard & Lucy Live cuts << Does anyone know of any other live or compilation discs Lucy has appeared on? I am aware of the Fast Folk collections, but am not sure how many she was on. >> I've got a bunch of the old Fast Folk albums and some of the more recent CDs, and although this list is not comprehensive, here's at least some of the issues on which Lucy appeared. FF#201, from January 1985, has Lucy and Shawn Colvin doing Loudon Wainwright's "Out of the World" and singing harmony with John Gorka on "Down in the Milltown." This album is notable to me personally because it includes Hugh Blumenfeld's "Rising Moon," the song that first got me into Contemporary Folk music. On FF#306/307 (Live at the Bottom Line 5/10/86) she performs Suzanne Vega's "Calypso", and duets with Shawn Colvin on Judith Zweiman's "Heart on Ice" (an absolute harmony tour-de-force) and Cliff Eberhardt's "Goodnight". This album is a must-own if you can find it, as it also features David Massengill doing his own "My Name Joe," Shawn doing one of her earliest songs, "Knowing What I Know Now," John Gorka doing his own "I Know" and Geoff Bartley's "Who Should Know," (wow, that's a lot of songs about knowledge, eh?) and Nikki Matheson doing the Irish classic "Kilkelly." FF#404 (An Evening in Greenwich Village 2/28/87) is also terrific. Lucy sings Shawn's "Diamond in the Rough" and Brian Rose's "Old Factory Town" (which she has been known to still trot out from time to time). One of the other highlights on this LP is John Gorka and Cliff Eberhardt performing Jimmy Bruno's "On the Avenue." FF#603/604 (Live at the Bottom Line 2/20/92) features Lucy performing a killer version of Robin Batteau's "Guinevere," with Robin himself on violin. Richard Shindell is also on the CD, singing "Are You Happy Now" and John Gorka sings "Where the Bottles Break" with the following hysterical deadpan introduction: "I live in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, and . . . I live about four blocks away from Bethlehem Steel . . . and this is a song about the neighborhood and how it's changed over the time I've been there. It's not real, uh, upbeat, and it's not real, uh, happy . . . but it's long." FF#806 (Live at the Bottom Line 1/28/95). Lucy's all over this one. She does "The Tide," "The Heart," sings with Wendy Beckerman and Louise Taylor on Annie Gallup's "Fight the Devil," and does a drop-dead beautiful version of "The Ballad of Mary Magdalene" (which will be Song of the Week on the Richard Shindell discussion list for any of you who aren't subscribed . . . details at the bottom). There's also a CD called "The Songwriter's Exchange," recorded at the Cornelia Street Cafe in 1980 featuring Lucy as part of a duo called "Simon and Kaplanski" singing "Say Goodbye Love," "Moon Song" and "Rooms." David Massengill and Cliff Eberhardt are also featured, and Cliff sings "Drive," which Lucy also does now from time to time. The performances are all a little raw (remember, this was almost 20 years ago) . . . but the CD is worth it just to see the photo of 19-year old Lucy on the cover. Let's see, what else . . . there's the Treestar Revue CD, recorded live at the Treestar Coffeehouse in Mt. Kisco, NY. Lucy does "The Tide," and sings harmony with Richard on "The Next Best Western." Dar's on there, too, performing "Arrival." One of the real treats is a laserdisc of Gerdes Folk City's 25th Anniversary Concert on which she sings a solo verse on David Massengill's "The Great American Dream" and Lucy and Shawn sing harmony to Eric Andersen's timeless "Thirsty Boots." That's all I've got . . . anyone know of anything else? RG Join the Richard Shindell discussion list: www.richardshindell.com, or to check it out first, take a look at the archives at: http://ifolk.iserver.net/shindell/stax/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 12:57:34 -0500 (CDT) From: JonHorsford@webtv.net (Jon Horsford) Subject: [lucy-list] Lucy-family roots While living in London in 63-66 i was very good friends with a spike (steve) kaplansky, hehad a younger brother danny, and a younger sister lucy. Lucy would have been about 5 or 6 at the time, and had dark, curly hair, they lived in Golders Green, i have a picture and it looks like the lucy you all know. Can anyone verify that this is the same lucy, has she ever mentioned being in London around 1964 and 1965? l ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 16:18:01 -0400 From: votels Subject: [lucy-list] Origin of Cry Cry Cry Hi everyone: Yes, the song title is true. I heard them do "Cry Cry Cry" with Buddy and Julie Miller at the Birchmere in January. But on the World Cafe interview, I think it was, Dar says the name came from a list they had compiled before they were finished work on the album. She says, considering the material they were recording, she put the name on the list as a joke and it stuck. The story Dar related at the Birchmere, re: Johnny Cash, was this: He called after the album was out and said, "If you're gonna use my song title as a name you might as well perform the song." Not sure if that's true, but that's what she said from the stage. It was a killer encore. Re: New York shows. I am so jealous of you guys. I'd eat tofu on a stick if it was in a place Lucy was playing. Reckon with the British Isles tours coming up, it'll be late summer before I get to see her again -- actually, June 19 and 20 with Cry Cry Cry in Bridgeton, N.J, Lucy, Richard and Christine Lavin in King of Prussia's concert under the stars the following night. Hoo-boy. I'll say this -- the food at Bridgeton is pretty good. Some church group does barbecue chicken there. Yum. Re: Steve Earle and Del McCoury. Did anyone see them on David Letterman Friday night? Yeow! I think it might have been the first network broadcast of bluegrass since Flatt & Scruggs and the Beverly Hillbillies or the Dillards on the old Andy Griffith Show. Ya-Hoo! I get to see Del and the band this coming weekend at the Gettysburg Bluegrass Camporee. The album Steven and Del did together is superb. Pickin' & grinnin' - -- Jay Votel ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 20:44:36 -0700 From: "Robert C. Phelps" Subject: RE: [lucy-list] Richard & Lucy Live cuts FYI, you can hear a short clip of Lucy singing "Brake A Train" on Amazon.com. The CD's apparently available there as well. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-lucy-list@smoe.org [mailto:owner-lucy-list@smoe.org]On > Behalf Of Pat Grismore > Sent: Sunday, May 09, 1999 9:09 AM > To: Lucy-List > Subject: [lucy-list] Richard & Lucy Live cuts > > > Hi All, > > I haven't seen this discussed here, so I thought I'd bring it up for those > who are not aware of it. > > The CD is called "W. 4th & 6th Ave" Greenwich Village Folk Festival > (Gadfly 222) > Lucy does a Cliff Eberhardt tune called "Brake A Train", and Richard does > his "Arrowhead". > They were recorded in 1993 at the Washington Square Church in Greenwich > Village. The other artists on the CD include Jim Infantino, Paul Siebel, > Amy & Leslie, Pat Kilbride, and David Massengill. ------------------------------ End of lucy-list-digest V1 #73 ****************************** This has been a posting from the Lucy Kaplansky mail list digest To unsubscribe send mail to Majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe lucy-list-digest" in the body of the message