From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V10 #135 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Saturday, April 6 2013 Volume 10 : Number 135 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [loud-fans] (former?) Loud Fan citing [Andrew Hamlin ] RE: [loud-fans] Re: Birthday ["Curry, Brendan" ] [loud-fans] Re: Birthday [Jeff Downing ] Re: [loud-fans] (former?) Loud Fan citing [Jer Fairall ] Re: [loud-fans] Re: Birthday [Steve Holtebeck ] Re: [loud-fans] Birthday ["Francis J. H. Park" ] Re: [loud-fans] Re: Birthday ["R. Kevin Doyle" ] Re: [loud-fans] Birthday [Richard Blatherwick ] [loud-fans] (former?) Loud Fan citing [Jer Fairall ] Re: [loud-fans] Birthday [Janet Ingraham Dwyer ] Re: [loud-fans] Birthday [Michael Bowen ] Re: [loud-fans] Birthday [aweiss4338@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 19:37:41 -0700 From: Andrew Hamlin Subject: Re: [loud-fans] (former?) Loud Fan citing Sounds fascinating--what's the contact info? Previously unaware that (6aR,9R)- N,N- diethyl- 7-methyl- 4,6,6a,7,8,9- hexahydroindolo- [4,3-fg] quinoline- 9-carboxamide had reached Indianapolis, Andy Night By Charles Heavysege (18161876) TIS solemn darkness; the sublime of shade; Night by no stars nor rising moon relieved; The awful blank of nothingness arrayed, Oer which my eyeballs roll in vain, deceived. Upward, around, and downward I explore, Een to the frontiers of the ebon air, But cannot, though I strive, discover more Than what seems one huge cavern of despair. O Night, art thou so grim, when black and bare Of moonbeams, and no cloudlets to adorn? Like a nude Ethiop twixt two houris fair Thou standest between the evening and the morn. I took thee for an angel, but have wooed A cacodaemon in mine ignorant mood. On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Jer Fairall wrote: > From a press release I saw recently: > > *ANONYMOUS - "INSIDE THE SHADOW" LP/CD* > > NOW TAKING ORDERS / SHIPS APRIL 30 > > "Close to the perfect album; each element has been drawn from the best > possible source, yet somehow Ron Matelic manages to fuse these massive > building blocks into personal, deeply human music." - Patrick Lundborg, THE > ACID ARCHIVES > > Originally released in 1976 in an edition of 300 copies, the sole album by > Indianapolis' ANONYMOUS stands today as a high-water mark in rock 'n' roll, > combining the adventure of west coast ballroom groups, the 12-string > majesty of Byrds, and breathtaking multi-part harmonies to forge something > inimitable and one-of-a-kind, with powerful songs that pushed the limit and > raised the bar at the same time. Long time top ten favorite with almost > every head we know, a true classic recommended for everyone into amazing > rock records of all varieties. > > Restored to its original glory for the first time since its initial > release, this is the definitive INSIDE THE SHADOW! > > - First officially licensed reissue of this classic in almost twenty years; > issued with the group's full cooperation and assistance > > - Remastered and restored by Warren Defever for best-ever sound > > - Sleeve notes from Aaron Milenski (co-author of the essential reference > guide The Acid Archives), and recollections from Ron Matelic, Anonymous' > visionary songwriter. > > - LP is sleeved in a tip-on jacket, with a reproduction of the original > lyric insert > > - CD is sleeved in a digipak, with 8 page booklet with complete lyrics and > notes > > > So this is why we've all been so quiet. We've been busy lately! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 06:10:37 -0400 From: Grahame Davies Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Birthday I wonder what percentage of UK GT/LF sales was down to Bill and Mick? 80%? 90%? It's got to be up there. On Apr 5, 2013, at 4:13 AM, Ian Runeckles wrote: > (Belated) Happy Birthday, Scott! > > I first heard LF in Minus Zero Records in Notting Hill, London. On one of my (then) regular visits Bill Forsyth, the owner, when looking at the sort of thing I was buying, played me Plants which knocked me out. Mick, Bill's sidekick, then pronounced that I would then need to buy up all the Game Theory back catalogue - he was right... > > Fave album: PABARAT > > Under appreciated song: I'm with Tom, in that Attractive Nuisance is probably my second favourite and Motion Of Ariel is the track. > > Ian > > np - Attractive Nuisance > > On 04/04/2013 21:47, treesprite@earthlink.net wrote: >> It's Scott's birthday. For old times sake, we need to take a poll. How did you first hear Scott's music and what's your favorite album? Favorite forgotten or under-appreciated song? >> >> xo >> B >> . ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 11:52:00 -0400 From: "Curry, Brendan" Subject: RE: [loud-fans] Re: Birthday Amazon tells me that I first placed an order for Interbabe Concern on August 23, 1999, so I am guessing the first Scott song I heard was "Sodium Laureth Sulfate." The one that got me, though, is "Not Expecting Both Contempo and Classique." I bought it on glenn's TWAS recommendation, without which I never would have found Scott or this list. It's still the best place on the intertubes for music recommendations and honest enthusiasm about life and everything in it. Don't go changing. PS - Favorite GT song is probably "Erica's Word." - -----Original Message----- From: owner-loud-fans@smoe.org [mailto:owner-loud-fans@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Steve Holtebeck Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 10:38 AM To: loud-fans list Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Re: Birthday The first GT song I heard was "Shark Pretty" on the campus radio station circa '84/85. First purchase was RN (on cassette!) shortly thereafter. Favorite GT Album: Lolita Nation Favorite GT Song: The Waist and the Knees or Chardonnay Favorite LF Album: Interbabe Favorite LF Songs: Sister Sleep, Motion of Ariel Underrated Songs: Baby Hard To Be Around, Mavis of Maybelline Towers ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 07:14:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Downing Subject: [loud-fans] Re: Birthday First song heard: "Beach State Rocking," which was natural since T->E->C was my first Game Theory purchase. I picked the CD up without provocation at Sound Revolution in St. Louis, in the longbox. Favourite Album: Plants and Birds Favourite Songs: Together Now, Very Minor, Where They Go Back to School But Get Depressed, Throwing the Election Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 22:50:29 -0400 From: Jer Fairall Subject: Re: [loud-fans] (former?) Loud Fan citing Here's the label site, though I can't get it to open at the moment. http://www.machupicchurecords.com/ On 2013-04-05, at 10:37 PM, Andrew Hamlin wrote: > Sounds fascinating--what's the contact info? > > Previously unaware that (6aR,9R)- N,N- diethyl- 7-methyl- > 4,6,6a,7,8,9- hexahydroindolo- [4,3-fg] quinoline- 9-carboxamide had > reached Indianapolis, > > Andy > > > Night > > By Charles Heavysege (18161876) > > TIS solemn darkness; the sublime of shade; > Night by no stars nor rising moon relieved; > The awful blank of nothingness arrayed, > Oer which my eyeballs roll in vain, deceived. > Upward, around, and downward I explore, > Een to the frontiers of the ebon air, > But cannot, though I strive, discover more > Than what seems one huge cavern of despair. > O Night, art thou so grim, when black and bare > Of moonbeams, and no cloudlets to adorn? > Like a nude Ethiop twixt two houris fair > Thou standest between the evening and the morn. > I took thee for an angel, but have wooed > A cacodaemon in mine ignorant mood. > > > On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Jer Fairall wrote: >> From a press release I saw recently: >> >> *ANONYMOUS - "INSIDE THE SHADOW" LP/CD* >> >> NOW TAKING ORDERS / SHIPS APRIL 30 >> >> "Close to the perfect album; each element has been drawn from the best >> possible source, yet somehow Ron Matelic manages to fuse these massive >> building blocks into personal, deeply human music." - Patrick Lundborg, THE >> ACID ARCHIVES >> >> Originally released in 1976 in an edition of 300 copies, the sole album by >> Indianapolis' ANONYMOUS stands today as a high-water mark in rock 'n' roll, >> combining the adventure of west coast ballroom groups, the 12-string >> majesty of Byrds, and breathtaking multi-part harmonies to forge something >> inimitable and one-of-a-kind, with powerful songs that pushed the limit and >> raised the bar at the same time. Long time top ten favorite with almost >> every head we know, a true classic recommended for everyone into amazing >> rock records of all varieties. >> >> Restored to its original glory for the first time since its initial >> release, this is the definitive INSIDE THE SHADOW! >> >> - First officially licensed reissue of this classic in almost twenty years; >> issued with the group's full cooperation and assistance >> >> - Remastered and restored by Warren Defever for best-ever sound >> >> - Sleeve notes from Aaron Milenski (co-author of the essential reference >> guide The Acid Archives), and recollections from Ron Matelic, Anonymous' >> visionary songwriter. >> >> - LP is sleeved in a tip-on jacket, with a reproduction of the original >> lyric insert >> >> - CD is sleeved in a digipak, with 8 page booklet with complete lyrics and >> notes >> >> >> So this is why we've all been so quiet. We've been busy lately! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 09:13:45 +0100 From: Ian Runeckles Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Birthday (Belated) Happy Birthday, Scott! I first heard LF in Minus Zero Records in Notting Hill, London. On one of my (then) regular visits Bill Forsyth, the owner, when looking at the sort of thing I was buying, played me Plants which knocked me out. Mick, Bill's sidekick, then pronounced that I would then need to buy up all the Game Theory back catalogue - he was right... Fave album: PABARAT Under appreciated song: I'm with Tom, in that Attractive Nuisance is probably my second favourite and Motion Of Ariel is the track. Ian np - Attractive Nuisance On 04/04/2013 21:47, treesprite@earthlink.net wrote: > It's Scott's birthday. For old times sake, we need to take a poll. How did you first hear Scott's music and what's your favorite album? Favorite forgotten or under-appreciated song? > > xo > B > . ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 07:38:08 -0700 From: Steve Holtebeck Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Re: Birthday The first GT song I heard was "Shark Pretty" on the campus radio station circa '84/85. First purchase was RN (on cassette!) shortly thereafter. Favorite GT Album: Lolita Nation Favorite GT Song: The Waist and the Knees or Chardonnay Favorite LF Album: Interbabe Favorite LF Songs: Sister Sleep, Motion of Ariel Underrated Songs: Baby Hard To Be Around, Mavis of Maybelline Towers ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 06:24:02 -0400 From: "Francis J. H. Park" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Birthday Happy belated birthday to Scott and Glenn! First heard: "Crash into June," sometime in late spring 1988, on WDCE, the student radio station at the University of Richmond. I ended up buying Big Shot Chronicles on tape that summer when I was vacationing in Ocean City, MD, followed shortly by Lolita Nation, and 2 Steps from the Middle Ages on tape over the next two years. Favorite Album: Plants and Birds and Rocks and Things Favorite Under-Appreciated Song: tossup between "It Just Wouldn't Be Christmas" and "Top Dollar Survivalist Hardware." I still remember April 1990, when I was attending Model United Nations in Washington DC. I was prompted to buy Lolita Nation on disk in no small part because I'd been hanging out with a girl that week who was a dead ringer for Shelley LaFreniere. Really. It wasn't until college when I started buying up the Game Theory re-releases on disk, starting with Tinkers to Evers to Chance right before I went to school, followed closely by Real Nighttime. Three songs permanently imprinted in my recollections of my first semester there are "Bad Year at UCLA," "The Red Baron," and "Real Nighttime." My favorite Scott song still remains, after almost 25 years, "Last Day That We're Young." Liked it enough to quote it in my high school yearbook entry. "Room for One More, Honey" is a distant second. Much like Janet, I've archived messages from the list on my computer going back to 1996. I'd say roughly over half of the music I've bought has some tie to having been mentioned on this list. Francis Park ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 11:08:25 -1000 From: "R. Kevin Doyle" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Re: Birthday Happy Birthday, Scott! I first heard "24" on WXCI, Danbury, CT in 1985. When I started DJing that fall at WRBC, "24" and 'Waltz the Halls" were regularly played. My favorite album (not just by Game Theory but by anyone) to this day is "Lolita Nation." When I read Shakespeare, I discover something new every time. I've been listening to "Lolita Nation" for what? 25 years now? Every time I listen to it, I notice something that I hadn't noticed before. Its a crime that "Lolita Nation" isn't one of the best known albums of all time. As other have echo'd, the thought of a song by Scott that isn't under-rated by the world at large or that has been forgotten by Loud-Fans seems to be a fantasy. That said, I'm going to stick with my "Lolita Nation" theme and say that "Nothing New" is a gorgeous, surrealistic love song that I suspect I'll never be able to fully unwrap. On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 5:52 AM, Curry, Brendan wrote: > Amazon tells me that I first placed an order for Interbabe Concern on > August 23, 1999, so I am guessing the first Scott song I heard was "Sodium > Laureth Sulfate." The one that got me, though, is "Not Expecting Both > Contempo and Classique." > > I bought it on glenn's TWAS recommendation, without which I never would > have found Scott or this list. It's still the best place on the intertubes > for music recommendations and honest enthusiasm about life and everything > in it. > > Don't go changing. > > PS - Favorite GT song is probably "Erica's Word." > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-loud-fans@smoe.org [mailto:owner-loud-fans@smoe.org] On > Behalf Of Steve Holtebeck > Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 10:38 AM > To: loud-fans list > Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Re: Birthday > > The first GT song I heard was "Shark Pretty" on the campus radio station > circa '84/85. First purchase was RN (on cassette!) shortly thereafter. > Favorite GT Album: Lolita Nation > Favorite GT Song: The Waist and the Knees or Chardonnay > Favorite LF Album: Interbabe > Favorite LF Songs: Sister Sleep, Motion of Ariel > Underrated Songs: Baby Hard To Be Around, Mavis of Maybelline Towers ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 12:43:21 +0200 From: Richard Blatherwick Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Birthday Guess I'm an outlier on that front then. I would never have realized the link from GT to LF without the fact that PaBaRaT was being played in the Plastic Factory in Birmingham once when I was visiting and I recognised parts of the intro sound collage. Selectadisc in Nottingham also used to stock quite a few items. Sent by me from somewhere. On 05.04.2013, at 12:10, Grahame Davies wrote: > I wonder what percentage of UK GT/LF sales was down to Bill and Mick? > > 80%? 90%? > > It's got to be up there. > > > > > On Apr 5, 2013, at 4:13 AM, Ian Runeckles wrote: > >> (Belated) Happy Birthday, Scott! >> >> I first heard LF in Minus Zero Records in Notting Hill, London. On one of my (then) regular visits Bill Forsyth, the owner, when looking at the sort of thing I was buying, played me Plants which knocked me out. Mick, Bill's sidekick, then pronounced that I would then need to buy up all the Game Theory back catalogue - he was right... >> >> Fave album: PABARAT >> >> Under appreciated song: I'm with Tom, in that Attractive Nuisance is probably my second favourite and Motion Of Ariel is the track. >> >> Ian >> >> np - Attractive Nuisance >> >> On 04/04/2013 21:47, treesprite@earthlink.net wrote: >>> It's Scott's birthday. For old times sake, we need to take a poll. How did you first hear Scott's music and what's your favorite album? Favorite forgotten or under-appreciated song? >>> >>> xo >>> B >>> . ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 21:44:36 -0400 From: Jer Fairall Subject: [loud-fans] (former?) Loud Fan citing From a press release I saw recently: *ANONYMOUS - "INSIDE THE SHADOW" LP/CD* NOW TAKING ORDERS / SHIPS APRIL 30 "Close to the perfect album; each element has been drawn from the best possible source, yet somehow Ron Matelic manages to fuse these massive building blocks into personal, deeply human music." - Patrick Lundborg, THE ACID ARCHIVES Originally released in 1976 in an edition of 300 copies, the sole album by Indianapolis' ANONYMOUS stands today as a high-water mark in rock 'n' roll, combining the adventure of west coast ballroom groups, the 12-string majesty of Byrds, and breathtaking multi-part harmonies to forge something inimitable and one-of-a-kind, with powerful songs that pushed the limit and raised the bar at the same time. Long time top ten favorite with almost every head we know, a true classic recommended for everyone into amazing rock records of all varieties. Restored to its original glory for the first time since its initial release, this is the definitive INSIDE THE SHADOW! - - First officially licensed reissue of this classic in almost twenty years; issued with the group's full cooperation and assistance - - Remastered and restored by Warren Defever for best-ever sound - - Sleeve notes from Aaron Milenski (co-author of the essential reference guide The Acid Archives), and recollections from Ron Matelic, Anonymous' visionary songwriter. - - LP is sleeved in a tip-on jacket, with a reproduction of the original lyric insert - - CD is sleeved in a digipak, with 8 page booklet with complete lyrics and notes So this is why we've all been so quiet. We've been busy lately! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 17:45:46 -0400 From: Michael Zwirn Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Birthday First heard: Interbabe Concern, living in Israel when I bought it on special order based on glenn mcdonald's effusive two-week long rhapsody about the album. Favorite album: probably Plants and Birds overall. Fave songs, underappreciated or not: "Jimmy Still Comes Around," "Mammoth Gardens," "Idiot Son," "Blackness Blackness," "My Superior." Those are some that come to mind. Michael Zwirn michael@zwirn.com (503) 887-9800 (202) 70-ZWIRN / (202) 709-9476 (Google Voice) Skype: zwirnm On Apr 4, 2013, at 5:17 PM, Dan Sallitt wrote: > Been a while since we got back to basics! I got into Scott through my Big > Star fandom: I bought REAL NIGHTTIME and SLOUCHING TOWARD LIVERPOOL to > check out the Big Star covers. Favorite album is probably TWO STEPS FROM > THE MIDDLE AGES - production is a little excessive, but I love the songs so > much. Hard to be sure which songs are really under-appreciated, but: "What > the Whole World Wants"? "It Just Wouldn't Be Christmas"? "Still Its Own > Reward"? - Dan > > > On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 4:47 PM, wrote: > >> It's Scott's birthday. For old times sake, we need to take a poll. How did >> you first hear Scott's music and what's your favorite album? Favorite >> forgotten or under-appreciated song? >> >> xo >> B ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 21:17:24 -0400 From: Janet Ingraham Dwyer Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Birthday Bradley, I appreciate you and this. It's just like the old days. I still have a folder, in an old email account, of dozens of loudfans' introductions of themselves and their connections to GT/LF from twelve or so years ago. I was an early adopter, I suppose. I encountered "Pointed Accounts of People You Know" either by encountering the EP on the "new" shelf at WNUR (Northwestern University), where I was an eager young freshman DJ, or from a Trouser Press ad for the same. Can't recall which crossed my path first anymore. I saw GT on tour in Chicago on what must have been the "Distortion" tour. And that summer, I came across a half-dozen or so copies of "Blaze of Glory", trash bags and all, at Joe's Record Paradise in Wheaton, MD, and to this day regret that I only purchased one of them. Favorite album: "Real Nighttime". Song: well, I will choose "Curse of the Frontierland", because it is playing on my CD player right now. Thank you. xo Janet On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 4:47 PM, wrote: > It's Scott's birthday. For old times sake, we need to take a poll. How did > you first hear Scott's music and what's your favorite album? Favorite > forgotten or under-appreciated song? > > xo > B ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 20:36:53 -0400 From: Michael Bowen Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Birthday I saw the video for "Erica's Word" at The Brewery, a club in Raleigh, back around 1986. (I was probably waiting to see either Guadalcanal Diary or The Swimming Pool Q's.) I liked it, but I also knew they were compared a lot to Let's Active, and I thought "Big Plans For Everybody" was a big letdown, so I didn't follow up. Fast forward more-than-a-few years and I find a copy of "Hot Cinnamon Churros", an Alias sampler in the Pier Platters used bin for two bucks. It has "Web In Front" by Archers of Loaf on it, so it's already worth more than what I paid for it. It also has "Jimmy Still Comes Around", which is cool enough for me to go out and buy P&B&R&T, which I immediately fall in love with. I went back and went through the GT catalog, and I found that only "Big Shot Chronicles" really sticks with me, even though I love all of the LF stuff. I think it may be that Scott's singing just got enough better after GT that it passes a certain barrier between "interesting" and "love" in my mind, but it may just be that I learned about LF in real time. Anyway, my favorite under-appreciated track among the Scott-fans would be one that's not his: "For Beginners Only", which I love just because it's such a hooky riff-rocker. But my all-time favorite Scott-track would be "Motion of Ariel", where he says goodbye to all of us, and goes from being a musician with a day job to a family man with an interesting past. On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Stuart Bell wrote: > Happy Birthday Scott > > After I bought Lolitta Nation and listened to it (still my favorite!) > > Favorite or under-appreciated song? - all of them, the entire output! > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-loud-fans@smoe.org [mailto:owner-loud-fans@smoe.org] On > Behalf Of treesprite@earthlink.net > Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 4:48 PM > To: loud-fans@smoe.org > Subject: [loud-fans] Birthday > > It's Scott's birthday. For old times sake, we need to take a poll. How did > you first hear Scott's music and what's your favorite album? Favorite > forgotten or under-appreciated song? > > xo > B ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 18:17:47 -0400 (EDT) From: aweiss4338@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Birthday First heard: Here it is Tomorrow on local college radio station. Ran to buy BSC right after. Fave album A tie between P&B&R&T and Interbabe. RN and LN. Underappreciated Soul DC, Darkness, Darkness, The Second Grade Applauds, Such Little Non-Belivers, and She'll Be a Verb. And happy birthday Scott and Glen! Andrea ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V10 #135 ********************************