From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V10 #124 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Thursday, January 17 2013 Volume 10 : Number 124 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [loud-fans] Re: loud-fans-digest V10 #123 [Tom Galczynski ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 09:49:28 -0600 From: Tom Galczynski Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Re: loud-fans-digest V10 #123 "...like their new album quite a bit. " Thanks for this I had no idea there was a new Shoes album. Off to the store... ;-) Tom Galczynski tgalczynski@comcast.net - --------------------------------------- Life itself, every moment of it, every drop of it, here, this instant, now, in the sun, in Regents Park, was enough. Too much, indeed. -- Virginia Woolf On 1/16/2013 7:52 AM, Glen Sarvady wrote: > Nice, lengthy interview with Shoes' Jeff Murphy here: > > http://www.stompandstammer.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5095 > &Itemid=51 > > I'd agree that Present Tense is the classic AND the best entry point- Black > Vinyl has a better backstory and plenty to recommend it, but feels a bit more > scattershot to me. > > Have always wanted to hear those earlier releases, particularly One In > Versailles (so named because Gary Klebe was studying abroad at the time). I > got the impression the Numero reissues were vinyl only- PLEASE tell me that's > not the case.... > > > > Funny enough, Numero's reissues actually start _before_ the beginning with > Black > inyl Shoes, a Present Tense demos record and two pre-Black Vinyl Shoes albums. > like Black Vinyl Shoes a lot, but I think Present Tense is still the best > tarting point/most solid record. The Numero reissues seem to be more for > people > ho are already fans. > like their new album quite a bit. > B > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Sallitt > Sent: Dec 15, 2012 9:54 AM > To: loud-fans@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Shoes > > Most people would start at the beginning with BLACK VINYL SHOES. - Dan > > On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Jer Fairall wrote: > >> Since there was an actual post here yesterday, I figure I'll keep the ball >> rolling... >> >> Numero recently reissued some of the Shoes albums. Any advice on where to >> start? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 08:52:28 -0500 (EST) From: Glen Sarvady Subject: [loud-fans] Re: loud-fans-digest V10 #123 Nice, lengthy interview with Shoes' Jeff Murphy here: http://www.stompandstammer.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5095 &Itemid=51 I'd agree that Present Tense is the classic AND the best entry point- Black Vinyl has a better backstory and plenty to recommend it, but feels a bit more scattershot to me. Have always wanted to hear those earlier releases, particularly One In Versailles (so named because Gary Klebe was studying abroad at the time). I got the impression the Numero reissues were vinyl only- PLEASE tell me that's not the case.... Funny enough, Numero's reissues actually start _before_ the beginning with Black inyl Shoes, a Present Tense demos record and two pre-Black Vinyl Shoes albums. like Black Vinyl Shoes a lot, but I think Present Tense is still the best tarting point/most solid record. The Numero reissues seem to be more for people ho are already fans. like their new album quite a bit. B -----Original Message----- From: Dan Sallitt Sent: Dec 15, 2012 9:54 AM To: loud-fans@smoe.org Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Shoes Most people would start at the beginning with BLACK VINYL SHOES. - Dan On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Jer Fairall wrote: > Since there was an actual post here yesterday, I figure I'll keep the ball > rolling... > > Numero recently reissued some of the Shoes albums. Any advice on where to > start? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 17:11:53 -0800 From: Andrew Hamlin Subject: [loud-fans] Pazz & Jop 2013 I figured I was obscure as ever this year, although I *was* surprised at the lack of love for the Van Halen and Ting Tings sets. Brian Block does point out, however, that this year two of my picks finished in the Top Hundred, and one finished in the Top 30. So I guess that's something. From my ballot (numbers left to right are final finish position, number of total points, and number of critics voting for the title): Chick Corea, Eddie Gomez and Paul Motian, Further Explorations tie for #529, 15, 1 Van Halen, A Different Kind of Truth #146, 64, 4 Rush, Clockwork Angels #79, 103, 11 Ting Tings, Sounds From Nowheresville tie for #660, 12, 1 Bill Evans, Live at Art D'Lugoff's Top of the Gate tie for #687, 11, 1 Scott Walker, Bish Bosch #25, 278, 22 Tift Merritt, Traveling Alone tie for #682, 12, 1 John Cale, Shifty Adventures in Nookie Wood tie for #516, 16, 2 Beth Orton, Sugaring Season tie for #223, 41, 5 - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Records I considered for my Top Ten but ultimately left off (no particular order): The Unthanks: The Songs Of Robert Wyatt And Antony & The Johnsons: Live at the Union Chapel (Diversions Vol. 1) (did not chart) THEESatisfaction: awE naturalE #91, 92, 9 Shearwater: Animal Joy #126, 72, 7 Mark Stewart: The Politics Of Envy (did not chart) Sonny Simmons/Frangois Tusques: Near The Oasis (did not chart) Stew & The Negro Problem: Making It tie for #421, 20, 2 Meat Loaf: Hell In A Handbasket (did not chart) Leonard Cohen: Old Ideas #22, 311, 31 Paul Buchanan: Mid-Air #345, 25, 2 Bob Dylan: Tempest #16, 349, 33 At this rate, I should be voting for the winner some time around 2032, Andy "How did Changeda crossover hit from a major national actpull not a single vote? First and foremost, through dogged and relentless sucking. The kind of workhorse sucking that doesn't win the big awards, but goddamn it, it gets the job done (the job is bad music). Maybe Rascal Flatts doesn't score big with critics, but Rascal Flatts is why critics exist: to figure out which music isn't Rascal Flatts and make you aware of it by putting that music on lists." - --David Thorpe, from "A Note On Crap," http://www.villagevoice.com/2013-01-16/music/pazz-jop-a-note-on-crap/ ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V10 #124 ********************************