From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V8 #238 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Thursday, December 17 2009 Volume 08 : Number 238 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [loud-fans] music notes of possible interest [outbound-only email address] [loud-fans] Re: music notes of possible interest [outbound-only email add] Re: [loud-fans] music notes of possible interest [Richard Blatherwick Subject: [loud-fans] music notes of possible interest still trying to listen to gobs of stuff too figure out if it is definitely not a contender for any "year's best"-style assemblage or if it warrants further study. Two late entries to the ever-swelling "mmmaybe stack." arctic monkeys - humbug I liked the first model arctic monkeys well enough, but this is something else entirely: darker, less laddish, way more interesting. evokes spoon and sparklehorse. 13 chime - complete discography (via other music's weekly mailer). reissue of never-heard-of-em East Anglian first-wave post-punk band is surprisingly solid. some of it prefigures love & rockets/dali's car, but with nastier guitar and more aggressive drumming -- also makes me think of neu! in places. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:52:16 -0500 From: outbound-only email address Subject: [loud-fans] Re: music notes of possible interest erm, 13th chime > 13 chime - complete discography > (via other music's weekly mailer). reissue of never-heard-of-em East > Anglian first-wave post-punk band is surprisingly solid. some of it > prefigures love & rockets/dali's car, but with nastier guitar and more > aggressive drumming -- also makes me think of neu! in places. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 21:22:50 +0000 (GMT) From: Richard Blatherwick Subject: Re: [loud-fans] music notes of possible interest I'm not as big a fan of Humbug as I was of the first 2 albums - how anyone could write a song that good about a Mardy Bum is just brilliant - but I do love Cornerstone and a few others. - --- On Wed, 16/12/09, outbound-only email address wrote: From: outbound-only email address Subject: [loud-fans] music notes of possible interest To: loud-fans@smoe.org Date: Wednesday, 16 December, 2009, 20:51 still trying to listen to gobs of stuff too figure out if it is definitely not a contender for any "year's best"-style assemblage or if it warrants further study. Two late entries to the ever-swelling "mmmaybe stack." arctic monkeys - humbug I liked the first model arctic monkeys well enough, but this is something else entirely: darker, less laddish, way more interesting. evokes spoon and sparklehorse. 13 chime - complete discography (via other music's weekly mailer). reissue of never-heard-of-em East Anglian first-wave post-punk band is surprisingly solid. some of it prefigures love & rockets/dali's car, but with nastier guitar and more aggressive drumming -- also makes me think of neu! in places. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 13:41:11 -0800 From: Steve Holtebeck Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Let the Top Ten lists begin! On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Andrew Hamlin wrote: > And now we know the Top 100 Albums of the Decade: > > http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/31248017/100_best_albums_of_the_decade/ > I know it's popular to rag on RS, but this looks like a fairly representative list of albums of the decade. What's so objectionable about it? Their list of top songs of the decade is also solid. http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/31248926/100_best_songs_of_the_decade A list of songs and albums that real people actually *liked* during the 2000s.. Oh the horror! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:03:52 -0500 From: Michael Bowen Subject: Re: [loud-fans] music notes of possible interest On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Richard Blatherwick wrote: > I'm not as big a fan of Humbug as I was of the first 2 albums - how anyone > could write a song that good about a Mardy Bum is just brilliant - but I do > love Cornerstone and a few others. Just checked urbandictionary.com to figure out what a mardy bum was - turns out that OH has already written a song about one: http://www.richardthompson-music.com/song_o_matic.asp?id=73 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:07:57 -0500 (EST) From: treesprite@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Let the Top Ten lists begin! >On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Andrew Hamlin wrote: >> And now we know the Top 100 Albums of the Decade: >> >> http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/31248017/100_best_albums_of_the_decade/ >> > >I know it's popular to rag on RS, but this looks like a fairly >representative list of albums of the decade. Yeah, I don't know how you'd complain about that list, really. Some under-the-radar stuff is missing, but that's not surprising. It's pretty solid in terms of the things that made an impact, too -- albums whose influence was pervasive, trends that covered a broad base, commercial artists who earned artistic credibility (Timberlake for example). I don't personally love Kid A (I really don't know it well enough to judge), but almost everyone I know loves it and I certainly watched it inspire a lot of new listening, playing, etc. I'm not sure how Modern Times is better than Love & Theft, but those are the kinds of quibbles you'd expect. I think if someone wanted to buy those titles to find out about music in the 00's, i'd be confident that they'd walk away well educated. I think that Augie March's Strange Bird might be the album of the 00's. Or Statuesque's Live From Lake Vostok. Or... xo, B PS Just fell in love with Rachel Unthank's catalog -- man, this is amazing. Anyone here a fan? B ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:54:41 -0500 From: Jenny Grover Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Let the Top Ten lists begin! Steve Holtebeck wrote: > What's so objectionable about it? I'll tell you what's so objectionable about it. They can't put more than 2 freakin' albums to a page??? They gonna buy me a new mouse after all the extra clicks? Jen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:13:42 -0800 From: Steve Holtebeck Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Let the Top Ten lists begin! On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Jenny Grover wrote: >> >> What's so objectionable about it? > > I'll tell you what's so objectionable about it. They can't put more than 2 > freakin' albums to a page??? They gonna buy me a new mouse after all the > extra clicks? A single condensed version here.. http://stereogum.com/archives/list/rolling_stones_100_best_albums_songs_of_the_00s_105081.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:08:46 -0500 (EST) From: treesprite@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Let the Top Ten lists begin! >Steve Holtebeck wrote: >> What's so objectionable about it? > >I'll tell you what's so objectionable about it. They can't put more >than 2 freakin' albums to a page??? They gonna buy me a new mouse after >all the extra clicks? Ha! I found a link at the bottom where they just showed the list all at once in good old fashioned text form. I refused to sit through the list otherwise. I am LA-ZEE. B ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:12:59 -0800 From: Andrew Hamlin Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Let the Top Ten lists begin! > I know it's popular to rag on RS, but this looks like a fairly > representative list of albums of the decade. I felt sadness, though not surprise, to find nothing from many of the artists who made a big difference for me across this almost-past decade: Richard Youngs, Warren Zevon, Smoosh, Kinski, Low, Venus Hum, Pere Ubu, Six Organs Of Admittance, Fountains Of Wayne, Otis Taylor, Patti Griffin, Sara Gazarek, Melody Gardot, hell, maybe even Scarlett Johansson (no particular order)... ...then again, me and "representative" haven't spoken since what, third grade? Andy "Sometimes our sympathy needs to drift to the side of crime, wrongdoing, evil, and sin, as a way of measuring our own humanity, or of defining its limits--or of toying with the idea of blasting those limits to bits for the sheer pleasure of watching the explosion." - --Stephanie Zacharek, from her essay on the Hays Code vs. PRETTY BABY, 1933; included in A NEW LITERARY HISTORY OF AMERICA, edited by Greil Marcus and Werner Sollors ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:33:04 -0500 From: markwstaples@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Let the Top Ten lists begin! How strange--I'm checking my mail at an Apple store in the Simi Valley mall right now, waiting on my brother, who is buying my sister-in-law a new mouse that works on the same principle as the iPod Touch. I feign interest, when all I wanna do is go to Amoeba and buy the new Orange Peels album. - --Mark They gonna buy me a new mouse after all the extra clicks? - -----Original Message----- From: Jenny Grover To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sent: Wed, Dec 16, 2009 2:54 pm Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Let the Top Ten lists begin! Steve Holtebeck wrote: > What's so objectionable about it? I'll tell you what's so objectionable about it. They can't put more than 2 freakin' albums to a page??? They gonna buy me a new mouse after all the extra clicks? Jen = ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V8 #238 *******************************