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loud-fans-digest      Thursday, December 10 2009      Volume 08 : Number 234



                               Today's Subjects:
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  Fwd: [loud-fans] research resource question  [outbound-only email address ]
  [loud-fans] from the "let the night fall" release announcement  ["Brian Bl]
  Re: [loud-fans] Had a "Bad Day" but still counting his ducats,  methinks...  [Dave Walker <dwalker@freeke.]
  Re: Fwd: [loud-fans] research resource question  [Jenny Grover <sleeveless]
  Re: [loud-fans] Female Bassists  ["Joseph M. Mallon" <jmmallon@joescafe.co]
  Re: [loud-fans] research resource question           [markwstaples@aol.com]
  RE: [loud-fans] research resource question  ["Vokes, Wesley" <Wesley.J.Vok]
  Re: [loud-fans] research resource question  [Miles Goosens <outdoorminer@g]
  Re: [loud-fans] research resource question  [Jenny Grover <sleeveless@sudd]

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Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 07:45:05 -0500
From: outbound-only email address <eeimmnno@antithetical.org>
Subject: Fwd: [loud-fans] research resource question

 R. Kevin Doyle:
>
Hmmm.  I think Michael is spot on here.  The books are useful, but not
always an accurate way to gauge release dates.

Not to admit that I own a Billboard chart book, but in my Billboard
chart book I think the date listed is the peak of the song's journey
up the chart (or, in the case of songs that stayed at number one for
several weeks, the date they first reached that number).  I agree that
this is useful for getting a ballpark figure on a song's release, but
it is deceptive.
<

But since Jen is looking to validate when characters can be dancing to
a tune, isn't the peak chart date arguably better for her purposes
than the release date? Excepting I suppose something that's a regional
hit first and a national hit later, but I don't know that a work of
fiction needs to be that precise.

Jen, if local book stores don't stock the billboard books, maybe you
can get them from the library (I don't know what library lending
programs you have available).

This one looks like it might be helpful:

Joel Whitburn's top pop singles, 1955-1990 : compiled from Billboard's
pop singles charts, 1955-1990.
   Whitburn, Joel.
   Menomonee Falls, Wis. : Record Research, c1991.
   xviii, 827 p. : ill. ; 24 cm.
   [6th ed.].

(from the massachusetts library system listing)

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Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 07:44:59 -0800
From: "Brian Block" <bokonin@care2.com>
Subject: [loud-fans] from the "let the night fall" release announcement

announcing the release of let the night fall, the brand new tris mccall
album.

you can buy a copy directly from me. send seven dollars to:

tris mccall
314 4th street
jersey city, new jersey 07302

if you can't afford seven dollars, just cry poor and i am sure we can
work something out. cash bores me -- i prefer to be paid in tea and ice
cream.

tea and ice cream cannot be transmitted through the internet (yet) but
music can, and we have set up a new website where you can hear bits of
the songs and purchase mp3s for sixty cents each. i'd much prefer that
you get a real cd, but i know that you are all jet-setters now and you
like to keep up with the latest "tech" trends. the new website is at the
usual address:

www.trismccall.net

for now, it's dedicated to the new album. (my explanatory note is a good
place to start.) all of the rest of the content will be back up soon.

thank you, as always, for listening to these stories.

tris mccall 


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Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 11:43:38 -0500
From: Dave Walker <dwalker@freeke.org>
Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Had a "Bad Day" but still counting his ducats,  methinks...

9/40:

Heard, but disliked thanks to massive overplay/blandness:

Bad Day
You're Beautiful

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Heard, but disliked on general principle:

Laffy Taffy (Girl Talk made good use of a sample from it, though...)

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Genuinely, unreservedly liked:

Crazy
Tipsy (basically an uncredited remake of Clipse's amazing "Grindin'",
sonically, though)
I Try

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OK, with reservations

Mambo No. 5 (OK cover of a great original)
Never Leave You (overplayed)
Lean Back (pretty much just looped call and response)

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Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 13:35:26 -0500
From: Jenny Grover <sleeveless@suddenlink.net>
Subject: Re: Fwd: [loud-fans] research resource question

outbound-only email address wrote:
> But since Jen is looking to validate when characters can be dancing to
> a tune, isn't the peak chart date arguably better for her purposes
> than the release date?

In this instance, both would be helpful, though the way radio was back 
then, peak activity didn't always reflect when people in a certain part 
of the country first started hearing a song regularly.

> but I don't know that a work of
> fiction needs to be that precise.
>   

Yeah, but I just hate it when I read something, or see it in a movie, 
that's pretending to be realistic, and know the details are wrong.  I 
don't want to be that person making some anal-retentive music obsessive 
cringe.  This novel is ostensibly about music, so getting it right is 
important to me.
 
> Jen, if local book stores don't stock the billboard books, maybe you
> can get them from the library (I don't know what library lending
> programs you have available).
>   

I'll have to check.  I don't know really know what the main branch has 
in the way of books (that really sounds bad, doesn't it?); I just seem 
to instead check out my limit of CDs.  I've been meaning to get over 
there to do just that, though, so I guess I might as well look at books 
too! 

> This one looks like it might be helpful:
>
> Joel Whitburn's top pop singles, 1955-1990

Thanks!

Jen

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Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 11:08:14 -0800
From: "Joseph M. Mallon" <jmmallon@joescafe.com>
Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Female Bassists

Kim - The Fastbacks
Faye Hunter - Let's Active
Shalini Chatterjee - The Mitch Easter Band

On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 1:42 PM,  <JRT456@aol.com> wrote:
> Might as well make a pitch for Lori "Lorax" Black of The Melvins, who was
> very smart about playing stupid. And, of course, Sal Maida of The Runaways.
>



- -- 
Joe Mallon
jmmallon@joescafe.com

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Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 16:55:48 -0500
From: markwstaples@aol.com
Subject: Re: [loud-fans] research resource question

I read today that Hungtington, WV is the fattest town in the US.  I wonder why
that is.  I thought it'd be somewhere where even the sweetened tea is deep
fried.


- --Mark, impressed with the wireless mouse and wireless keyboard I'm using (my
bro's Mac--he laughed at me when I told him I still used diskettes--I don't
understand the big deal--they work fine for my needs!)







- -----Original Message-----
From: Jenny Grover <sleeveless@suddenlink.net>
To: loud-fans@smoe.org
Sent: Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:11 pm
Subject: Re: [loud-fans] research resource question


markwstaples@aol.com wrote:
> --Mark, who keeps being told by locals his Southern accent is cute--I didn't
> know I had one
>
Oh, you most certainly do have one!

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Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 16:16:24 -0600
From: "Vokes, Wesley" <Wesley.J.Vokes@fnis.com>
Subject: RE: [loud-fans] research resource question

In your face Milwaukee!


- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-loud-fans@smoe.org [mailto:owner-loud-fans@smoe.org] On
Behalf Of markwstaples@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 3:56 PM
To: loud-fans@smoe.org
Subject: Re: [loud-fans] research resource question

I read today that Hungtington, WV is the fattest town in the US.  I
wonder why
that is.  I thought it'd be somewhere where even the sweetened tea is
deep
fried.


- --Mark, impressed with the wireless mouse and wireless keyboard I'm
using (my
bro's Mac--he laughed at me when I told him I still used diskettes--I
don't
understand the big deal--they work fine for my needs!)







- -----Original Message-----
From: Jenny Grover <sleeveless@suddenlink.net>
To: loud-fans@smoe.org
Sent: Tue, Dec 8, 2009 5:11 pm
Subject: Re: [loud-fans] research resource question


markwstaples@aol.com wrote:
> --Mark, who keeps being told by locals his Southern accent is cute--I
didn't
> know I had one
>
Oh, you most certainly do have one!

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Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 18:48:38 -0600
From: Miles Goosens <outdoorminer@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [loud-fans] research resource question

On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Michael Bowen <bowenm@gmail.com> wrote:
> I remember getting annoyed during "Summer of Sam" because they showed
> Adrien Brody's character playing "Psycho Killer" on the jukebox at a
> diner, even though the single wasn't released till the fall and it
> wouldn't have been on a diner jukebox anyway.

I actually enjoyed the movie, which I think is a minority opinion, but
what annoyed me was the anachronistic punk looks - they weren't 1977
punk, they were late '90s punk.

later,

Miles
- -- 
over a year of feeling guilty about not blogging enough!
http://readingpronunciation.blogspot.com/

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Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 19:40:19 -0500
From: Jenny Grover <sleeveless@suddenlink.net>
Subject: Re: [loud-fans] research resource question

markwstaples@aol.com wrote:
> I read today that Hungtington, WV is the fattest town in the US.  I wonder why
> that is.  I thought it'd be somewhere where even the sweetened tea is deep
> fried.
>   

People around here eat very unhealthily, and in large portions.  Most of 
them are not partial to fresh veggies (which makes it hell for us trying 
to find good produce a lot of the time!), and over-indulge in fast food, 
greasy, meat-laden dishes, and sweets (except those diet sodas!), as 
well as high glycemic type starches.  Diabetes is a major health problem 
in this region.  A lot of people smoke here, as well, and exercise, or 
at least adequate exercise, probably isn't a priority.  The number of 
overweight people here really is noticeable, and when I travel I notice 
the contrast with the populations of other places.

Jen

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