From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V8 #169 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Monday, September 7 2009 Volume 08 : Number 169 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [loud-fans] Beatles reissues [Andrew Hamlin ] Re: [loud-fans] Beatles reissues [Steve Holtebeck ] Re: [loud-fans] Beatles reissues [Steve Holtebeck ] Re: [loud-fans] Beatles reissues ["Joseph M. Mallon" ] Re: [loud-fans] Beatles reissues [Markwstaples@aol.com] Re: [loud-fans] Beatles (wait, BIG STAR) reissues [JRT456@aol.com] Re: [loud-fans] Beatles (wait, BIG STAR) reissues ["Joseph M. Mallon" ] Re: [loud-fans] Beatles (wait, BIG STAR) reissues [Steve Holtebeck Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Beatles reissues With the disclaimer that I haven't done more than poke around on Amazon and am open to correction, I'm surprised that the mono remasters apparently won't get sold separately. SGT. PEPPER's mono mix, from what I understand, hasn't even seen an official CD issue; surely plenty of people would want that. Now if I could only track down that PEPPER refrigerator, Andy "The game is great, the music's greater and, animated, I look gorgeous!" - --Ringo on the new video game "The Beatles: Rock Band," from an article by Edna Gunderson at http://www.usatoday.com/life/music/news/2009-09-03-beatles-cover_N.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 13:17:41 -0700 From: Steve Holtebeck Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Beatles reissues On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Andrew Hamlin wrote: > With the disclaimer that I haven't done more than poke around on > Amazon and am open to correction, I'm surprised that the mono > remasters apparently won't get sold separately. I'm not.. Consumers would be so confused with mono and stereo versions of the same titles. I'm hoping for a separate release of the MONO MASTERS, but most fans who care about mono are geeky enough to buy the entire box. I'll probably buy ABBEY ROAD first (since I don't have it on CD anymore) and wait for the others to show up used, holding out for decent true stereo versions of the first few albums. Here are the most popular Beatles reissues, according Amazon pre-orders (http://alturl.com/3zmi) 1) Abbey Road 2) Sgt Peppers 3) White Album 4) Rubber Soul 5) Revolver 6) Past Masters 7) Let It Be 8) Magical Mystery Tour 9) Hard Days Night 10) Please Please Me 11) Help 12) With The Beatles 13) Beatles For Sale 14) Yellow Submarine ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 14:51:30 -0700 From: Steve Holtebeck Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Beatles reissues On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Miles Goosens wrote: > Wednesday is actually the big day for the Beatles: 9-9-2009, and for > the console-minded, there's also the BEATLES ROCK BAND game coming out > that same day. But if you show up on Tuesday, you're gonna go home > with just that Clean album. ..and Yo La Tengo's POPULAR SONGS and the Feelies' CRAZY RHYTHMS and GOOD EARTH reissues that someone here (Dave W?) asked about. (http://www.bar-none.com/the-feelies.html) Tue 09-08 actually isn't a terrible day for new releases. And the Big Star box is out on Tue 09-15 - -Steve ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 16:30:44 -0700 From: "Joseph M. Mallon" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Beatles reissues On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Steve Holtebeck wrote: > Tue 09-08 actually isn't a terrible day for new releases. And the Big > Star box is out on Tue 09-15 Someone's figured out yet another way to repackage 3 albums & get the same people to buy them again? - -- Joe Mallon jmmallon@joescafe.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 20:21:12 EDT From: JRT456@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Beatles (wait, BIG STAR) reissues In a message dated 9/6/09 7:34:41 PM, jmmallon@joescafe.com writes, re the upcoming (9/15) Big Star box: > Someone's figured out yet another way to repackage 3 albums & get the > same people to buy them again? > Four discs, 98 songs, and probably a good buy for pop fans who can find the box for around $50. Also, the upcoming Daryl Hall & John Oates box is a bargain if you pre-order from Amazon at $34.99. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 21:35:38 EDT From: Markwstaples@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Beatles (wait, BIG STAR) reissues I know they have their moments, but the oversaturation of them in the early 1980s on WTBS' NIGHT TRACKS (my cheap dad would never spring for anything other than basic cable, so I watched NT all night on the weekend) with Darryl Hall in that thin lapeled jacket trying to be New Wave in that "Family Man" video...ugh. Plus, when I was 17 I had to sit through an entire concert of them after General Public opened for them, because my bus back home from Atlanta wasn't leaving for hours (I wasn't allowed to drive out of town then). Listening to HELP! and RUBBER SOUL this evening again, I've flopped back to RS as my first purchase. It is a light year away from HELP! in maturity--it's amazing how fast they matured--there's dog years and Beatle years. HELP! reminds me of the kids when they come in the classroom at the beginning of the year, and RS reminds me of them during May Field Day--the same kids, but much more developed. Plus, it has a stripped-down sparseness that sounds timeless--clean and objective and elegant--like a big living room in a Victorian house that's just been repainted white, with the wood floors resurfaced, with nothing inside but a black leather sofa and an IKEA coffee table holding a glass of merlot, Bang and Olufsen stereo lying in a corner glowing blue and playing. In other words, it's all stripped down, and all growed up. John Oates' moustache is the stuff of legend, or cartoon, I'm not sure which, - --Mark In a message dated 9/6/2009 8:22:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, JRT456@aol.com writes: Also, the upcoming Daryl Hall & John Oates box is a bargain if you pre-order from Amazon at $34.99. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 21:40:07 EDT From: Markwstaples@aol.com Subject: [loud-fans] Beatles mastering The '80s copies of RUBBER SOUL and HELP! are ADD. I mean they're already digitally remixed, how much of an improvement could there be on these? I'm certain the ones up to HELP! will sound MUCH better, as well as the rest of the catalogue--all AAD, but I'm wondering what gains were made with these (my fave Beatles albums) over the last generation. - --Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 21:57:32 EDT From: Markwstaples@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Beatles (wait, BIG STAR) reissues Wait a minute, JRT, is this more of your trademark sarcasm and wit? Well done. It totally slipped past me. The best and most biting sarcasm is the kind that is left initially undetected. - --Mark In a message dated 9/6/2009 8:22:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, JRT456@aol.com writes: Also, the upcoming Daryl Hall & John Oates box is a bargain if you pre-order from Amazon at $34.99. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 20:27:40 -0600 From: Roger Winston Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Beatles reissues On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 2:58 PM, wrote: > Since Tuesday is the big day, and since the Beatles are the common thread > that we all share, next to that Scott guy, That's painting with an awfully big brush, bucko. Until I saw your message and the cover of this week's Entertainment Weekly, I had no knowledge of these reissues. Aside from a DVD of YELLOW SUBMARINE and a CD of LOVE, I own no Beatles recordings and no desire to acquire any. I could pretty much not care less about Big Star and the Beach Boys as well. I thought the common thread we all shared was a love of Diet Sierra Mist Ruby Splash? Latre. --Rog P.S. "Family Man" was the best song H&O ever did, but only because it was written by Mike Oldfield. Then again, the original is much better. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 22:42:23 EDT From: Markwstaples@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Beatles reissues You're absolutely correct. My mistake. It kicks Diet Cherry Dr. Pepper's twee redneck ass. I sure hope Fonzie can jump the ramp and make it over the sharks, - --Mark (bucko) In a message dated 9/6/2009 10:30:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rogwinston@gmail.com writes: I thought the common thread we all shared was a love of Diet Sierra Mist Ruby Splash? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 22:48:55 EDT From: JRT456@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Beatles (wait, BIG STAR) reissues In a message dated 9/6/09 10:17:03 PM, Markwstaples@aol.com writes: > It totally slipped past me. The best and most biting sarcasm is the > kind that is left initially undetected. > They've had some unfortunate hits, but Hall & Oates have also made several great albums---including more recent work. WAR BABIES would've made them glam icons if they had died with the members of Chase back in 1974. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 20:39:17 -0700 From: "Joseph M. Mallon" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Beatles (wait, BIG STAR) reissues ABANDONED LUNCHEONETTE is fantastic pop-soul. There's a H & O concert from 1973 on which they play a lot of the album, and it's one of the best concerts I own. On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 7:48 PM, wrote: > They've had some unfortunate hits, but Hall & Oates have also made several > great albums---including more recent work. WAR BABIES would've made them > glam icons if they had died with the members of Chase back in 1974. > - -- Joe Mallon jmmallon@joescafe.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 20:46:58 -0700 From: Steve Holtebeck Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Beatles reissues On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Roger Winston wrote: > I could pretty much not care less about Big Star and the Beach Boys as well. Why do you hate America? (*) - -Steve (*) Okay, "Horse With No Name" is kind of overplayed, but their HOMECOMING album is solid all the way through! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 21:17:16 -0700 From: Steve Holtebeck Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Beatles (wait, BIG STAR) reissues On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 5:21 PM, wrote: > In a message dated 9/6/09 7:34:41 PM, jmmallon@joescafe.com writes, re the > upcoming (9/15) Big Star box: > >> Someone's figured out yet another way to repackage 3 albums & get the >> same people to buy them again? >> > > Four discs, 98 songs, and probably a good buy for pop fans who can find the > box for around $50. "Around $50" is my make/break amount. It's currently $52.34 at cduniverse.. drop! drop! http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=7955603 I realize I'm a freak and a weirdo, but I'll get more mileage from a Big Star box set than I would from Beatles albums I've heard zillions of times before. - -Steve ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 22:40:02 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: treesprite@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Beatles (wait, BIG STAR) reissues >ABANDONED LUNCHEONETTE is fantastic pop-soul. There's a H & O concert >from 1973 on which they play a lot of the album, and it's one of the >best concerts I own. Abandoned Luncheonette has become a real favorite of mine the past couple years -- both of those guys were (are?) great singers and writers. One track that I really love is a song called "Past Times Behind" -- it was released in a fairly raw version on an album of outtakes from the Atlantic era, but a more polished and powerful version is on the amazing Atlantic best-of that Rhino put awhile back -- I highly recommend that compilation to anyone who likes that kind of pop soul. Joe, i'm going to need a copy of that concert! B ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V8 #169 *******************************