From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V8 #160 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Friday, August 28 2009 Volume 08 : Number 160 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [loud-fans] Smiths reissues [Richard Blatherwick ] Re: [loud-fans] Smiths reissues [markwstaples@aol.com] Re: [loud-fans] Happy Birthday [markwstaples@aol.com] Re: [loud-fans] Smiths reissues [markwstaples@aol.com] Re: [loud-fans] Film 2009? [Andrew Hamlin ] Re: [loud-fans] Smiths reissues [Andrew Hamlin ] Re: [loud-fans] Smiths reissues ["R. Kevin Doyle" ] Re: [loud-fans] Smiths reissues [Markwstaples@aol.com] [loud-fans] ? [Markwstaples@aol.com] Re: [loud-fans] Smiths reissues [sleeveless@zoominternet.net] Re: [loud-fans] Smiths reissues ["R. Kevin Doyle" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Smiths reissues I don't want this to sound like one of those 'I was into them before they were famous, then they changed (and sold out)' and I stopped liking them' moans, but my Smiths signature song would be a toss-up between This Charming Man and What Difference Does It Make?, as they were the singles that introduced me to the band and defined their sound to my ears. How Soon Is Now? was a b-side with a sonic, if not lyrical departure and I remember spending more time listening to Please Please Please Let me Get What I Want - the other b-side from the William single. So, I guess my introduction to the song as a Brit fan of the band was totally different to most of you and viewed it more as a bit of a throwaway experiment. The band never really recorded anything too much like it again, something I was rather glad of. There are other songs on later albums/singles reminiscent of the early singles and for that reason I always think of them when I think of the band, rather than a single song that, while being the most recognised of their songs to many, didn't sound like anything else they did. I guess that's the problem with having one big hit somewhere. In the UK they were widely known before and after How Soon Is Now?, and that makes a difference to my mind.It still gets a lot of folk off their seats at 80s night though! - --- On Wed, 26/8/09, Andrew Hamlin wrote: From: Andrew Hamlin Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Smiths reissues To: loud-fans@smoe.org Date: Wednesday, 26 August, 2009, 11:16 PM > The US version of the album always had "How Soon Is Now?" starting off side > two: American record companies have never liked stand-alone singles, so > they've always tended to get lumped onto LPs whether they fit or not. And > side two, track one makes more sense than sticking it either at the > beginning or the end of the album, and at least they didn't do the other > thing that American record companies tended to do and drop another song or > two off the track listing to make room for it. I found myself intrigued by Richard's reaction. Not that Richard isn't entitled, but in the States, at least, "How Soon Is Now?" stands as the Smiths' signature song, as inseparable from the band as "Rock And Roll All Nite" is from KISS, or "My Generation" from the Who. Assuming Jim Steinman didn't write this particular "Nowhere Fast," Andy [info]azizmihat wrote: Apr. 17th, 2009 08:42 am (UTC) enquiry Dear Joe, Intend to seek your help for profitability investment in Malaysia. We are seeking USD 500,000 with a return of 10% per annum negotiable plus majority share in the company. Can you help. If yes Im going to mail you all the details. My email is azizmihat@myjaring.net Rgds Aziz - --posted at the blog of convicted murderer Joe Hunt, former ringleader of the Billionaire Boys Club ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 12:37:12 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Smiths reissues On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Richard Blatherwick wrote: > rather than a single song that, while being the most recognised of their > songs to many, didn't sound like anything else they did. I guess that's the > problem with having one big hit somewhere. Nothing the Smiths did, or Morrissey since, has ever been a true chart hit in the U.S. In fact, "How Soon Is Now?" didn't even make the singles chart in the U.S. Like a lot of "underground" songs from the '80s, "How Soon Is Now?" has become part of The Eighties That Never Was (Unless You Lived In A College Town And/Or Big City With A Cool Radio Station). Seriously, if the actual '80s had been a time where "Blitzkreig Bop," "Psycho Killer," and "Ever Fallen In Love" were all over U.S. radio, I would have been a much happier person at the time instead of the outcast who listened to "weird shit." Remember, kids, if majorettes in Nebraska weren't doing a fire baton routine to it, it wasn't actually a hit. However, people who *do* love these songs are increasingly in positions of power in advertising and the media, and that, more than anything, is creating this alternate-history '80s where life was actually like a John Hughes soundtrack. I also suspect that the Love Spit Love cover of "How Soon Is Now?"' as used in the film THE CRAFT and, more influentially, as the theme to the U.S. TV series CHARMED, is a contributing factor with this particular tune. And, personally... * "How Soon Is Now?" is, to these ears, not only a great song but the best Smiths song. * MEAT IS MURDER, however, still leaves me disinterested, so much so at the time that I just about gave up on the Smiths. It seemed like a more maudlin remake of the debut, and without the appended "How Soon Is Now?" it really wouldn't have much to appeal to me. Thankfully, the Mozzer hit the right balance between pathos and self-depreciation on THE QUEEN IS DEAD and all the goodies that ended up on LOUDER THAN BOMBS. "There Is a Light" exemplifies that balance, with genuinely moving verses and a chorus that's ridiculously, dramatically over the top. Somehow, the two tastes work together. later, Miles - -- now with blogspot retsin! http://readingpronunciation.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:50:16 -0400 From: markwstaples@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Smiths reissues Well said.? My first post to Loudfans in 1999 when I was a digest member was my gripe about the media's pretending that EVERYBODY was listening to this stuff--all lumped together in an '80s hodgepodge along with glitter gloves and Rubic's cubes like THE WEDDING SINGER.? My theory is that the reason THAT '80s SHOW failed was that they had the same angle, but the reality was, the audience was alienated because 90% of the viewing audience could identify with Journey or Def Leppard, not "How Soon is Now." Better take off that Van Halen, er, Smiths t-shirt, or you'll jinx the band and make them break up, - --Mark Like a lot of "underground" songs from the '80s, "How Soon Is Now?" has become part of The Eighties That Never Was (Unless You Lived In A College Town And/Or Big City With A Cool Radio Station). Seriously, if the actual '80s had been a time where "Blitzkreig Bop," "Psycho Killer," and "Ever Fallen In Love" were all over U.S. radio, I would have been a much happier person at the time instead of the outcast who listened to "weird shit." Remember, kids, if majorettes in Nebraska weren't doing a fire baton routine to it, it wasn't actually a hit. However, people who *do* love these songs are increasingly in positions of power in advertising and the media, and that, more than anything, is creating this alternate-history '80s where life was actually like a John Hughes soundtrack. - -----Original Message----- From: Miles Goosens To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sent: Thu, Aug 27, 2009 1:37 pm Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Smiths reissues On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Richard Blatherwick wrote: > rather than a single song that, while being the most recognised of their > songs to many, didn't sound like anything else they did. I guess that's the > problem with having one big hit somewhere. Nothing the Smiths did, or Morrissey since, has ever been a true chart hit in the U.S. In fact, "How Soon Is Now?" didn't even make the singles chart in the U.S. Like a lot of "underground" songs from the '80s, "How Soon Is Now?" has become part of The Eighties That Never Was (Unless You Lived In A College Town And/Or Big City With A Cool Radio Station). Seriously, if the actual '80s had been a time where "Blitzkreig Bop," "Psycho Killer," and "Ever Fallen In Love" were all over U.S. radio, I would have been a much happier person at the time instead of the outcast who listened to "weird shit." Remember, kids, if majorettes in Nebraska weren't doing a fire baton routine to it, it wasn't actually a hit. However, people who *do* love these songs are increasingly in positions of power in advertising and the media, and that, more than anything, is creating this alternate-history '80s where life was actually like a John Hughes soundtrack. I also suspect that the Love Spit Love cover of "How Soon Is Now?"' as used in the film THE CRAFT and, more influentially, as the theme to the U.S. TV series CHARMED, is a contributing factor with this particular tune. And, personally... * "How Soon Is Now?" is, to these ears, not only a great song but the best Smiths song. * MEAT IS MURDER, however, still leaves me disinterested, so much so at the time that I just about gave up on the Smiths. It seemed like a more maudlin remake of the debut, and without the appended "How Soon Is Now?" it really wouldn't have much to appeal to me. Thankfully, the Mozzer hit the right balance between pathos and self-depreciation on THE QUEEN IS DEAD and all the goodies that ended up on LOUDER THAN BOMBS. "There Is a Light" exemplifies that balance, with genuin ely moving verses and a chorus that's ridiculously, dramatically over the top. Somehow, the two tastes work together. later, Miles - -- now with blogspot retsin! http://readingpronunciation.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:54:32 -0400 From: markwstaples@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Happy Birthday It was good.? Thanks!? Mom took me out for Chinese, and gave me a 20, which I used to buy that Joe Pernice book.? The teacher I work with and the 8 hearing handicapped kids I work with threw me a surprise party--I eat cereal for mid-morning snack, so my present was a Wheaties "Breakfast of Champions" cereal bowl--very cool--I'll think of Kurt Vonnegut every time I eat around 10 am. - --Mark - -----Original Message----- From: LeftyZ@aol.com To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sent: Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:19 pm Subject: [loud-fans] Happy Birthday HB Mark. Hope you have a good one. John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:01:37 -0400 From: markwstaples@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Smiths reissues One last thing to add, the '80s were too fractured musically and culturally among American youth, unlike the previous two decades, to have a show like THAT '80s SHOW.? IMO, the real theme to?a show like that should've been "Isolation" by Joy Division. - --Mark? - -----Original Message----- From: markwstaples@aol.com To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sent: Thu, Aug 27, 2009 2:50 pm Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Smiths reissues Well said.? My first post to Loudfans in 1999 when I was a digest member was my gripe about the media's pretending that EVERYBODY was listening to this stuff--all lumped together in an '80s hodgepodge along with glitter gloves and Rubic's cubes like THE WEDDING SINGER.? My theory is that the reason THAT '80s SHOW failed was that they had the same angle, but the reality was, the audience was alienated because 90% of the viewing audience could identify with Journey or Def Leppard, not "How Soon is Now." ? Better take off that Van Halen, er, Smiths t-shirt, or you'll jinx the band and make them break up, - --Mark ? ? ? Like a lot of "underground" songs from the '80s, "How Soon Is Now?" has become part of The Eighties That Never Was (Unless You Lived In A College Town And/Or Big City With A Cool Radio Station). Seriously, if the actual '80s had been a time where "Blitzkreig Bop," "Psycho Killer," and "Ever Fallen In Love" were all over U.S. radio, I would have been a much happier person at the time instead of the outcast who listened to "weird shit." Remember, kids, if majorettes in Nebraska weren't doing a fire baton routine to it, it wasn't actually a hit. However, people who *do* love these songs are increasingly in positions of power in advertising and the media, and that, more than anything, is creating this alternate-history '80s where life was actually like a John Hughes soundtrack. - -----Original Message----- From: Miles Goosens To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sent: Thu, Aug 27, 2009 1:37 pm Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Smiths reissues On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Richard Blatherwick wrote: > rather than a single song that, while being the most recognised of their > songs to many, didn't sound like anything else they did. I guess that's the > problem with having one big hit somewhere. Nothing the Smiths did, or Morrissey since, has ever been a true chart hit in the U.S. In fact, "How Soon Is Now?" didn't even make the singles chart in the U.S. Like a lot of "underground" songs from the '80s, "How Soon Is Now?" has become part of The Eighties That Never Was (Unless You Lived In A College Town And/Or Big City With A Cool Radio Station). Seriously, if the actual '80s had been a time where "Blitzkreig Bop," "Psycho Killer," and "Ever Fallen In Love" were all over U.S. radio, I would have been a much happier person at the time instead of the outcast who listened to "weird shit." Remember, kids, if majorettes in Nebraska weren't doing a fire baton routine to it, it wasn't actually a hit. However, people who *do* love these songs are increasingly in positions of power in advertising and the media, and that, more than anything, is creating this alternate-history '80s where life was actually like a John Hughes soundtrack. I also suspect that the Love Spit Love cover of "How Soon Is Now?"' as used in the film THE CRAFT and, more influentially, as the theme to the U.S. TV series CHARMED, is a contributing factor with this particular tune. And, personally... * "How Soon Is Now?" is, to these ears, not only a great song but the best Smiths song. * MEAT IS MURDER, however, still leaves me disinterested, so much so at the time that I just about gave up on the Smiths. It seemed like a more maudlin remake of the debut, and without the appended "How Soon Is Now?" it really wouldn't have much to appeal to me. Thankfully, the Mozzer hit the right balance between pathos and self-depreciation on THE QUEEN IS DEAD and all the goodies that ended up on LOUDER THAN BOMBS. "There Is a Light" exemplifies that balance, with genuin ely moving verses and a chorus that's ridiculously, dramatically over the top. Somehow, the two tastes work together. later, Miles - -- now with blogspot retsin! http://readingpronunciation.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 12:41:59 -0700 From: Andrew Hamlin Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Film 2009? On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Jer Fairall wrote: > Yeesh. I've heard of exactly two of these (the Top 2, in fact) and seen > exactly none. More info, please? Ask and ye shall receive! (Eventually) >> 3. STATE OF PLAY (Kevin Macdonald, USA/UK/France) Surprised Jer hasn't heard of this one--it even played Rog's neighborhood! Russell Crowe shines as a hard-drinking slob chasing the down and dirty in D.C.: http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090415/REVIEWS/904159989/1023 >> 4. THROW DOWN YOUR HEART (Sascha Paladino, USA) Bela Fleck travels around Africa blowing your mind and his with assorted African musicians. His brother films the whole thing: http://throwdownyourheart.com/ >> 5. KABEI: OUR MOTHER (Yamada Yoji, Japan) Starting in Japan just prior to WWII, KABEI follows a family's travails after the professor father gets arrested for "thought crime." Kudos to Asano Tadanobu, as one of the professor's students; he's so successful inhabiting a sweet, clumsy geek you won't believe it's the same guy who breathed life into Genghis Khan: http://www.villagevoice.com/2009-05-20/film/kabei-our-mother-zooms-in-on-one-family-in-rising-sun-japan/ >> 6. STILL WALKING (Kore-eda Hirokazu, Japan) Modern Japan this time--a family gathers seaside, never forgetting that they lost a son/brother to a heartbreaking accident: http://www.aruitemo.com/index.html >> 7. THE RED JACKET (Zou Yalin, China) So damned obscure even IMDb never heard of it. So much for justice in the world: http://www.nwasianweekly.com/2009/28_05/pages/redjacket.html >> 8. TELSTAR (Nick Moran, UK) The easy lob to a music geek list: here stands the biopic of Robert George Meek, better known as Joe Meek: Producer, manager, studio wizard, tone-deaf composer, proto-industrial rocker, independent label owner at a point (early/mid- 60's) where the UK didn't go for that sort of thing, spiritualist, Buddy Holly devotee, mastermind of the first #1 American record from a UK pop group...and dead in a murder-suicide at 37. Adapted from a stage play and still stage-y in places, the story and the sadness will out: http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/film/film-23369613-details/Telstar/filmReview.do?reviewId=23578128 >> 9. THE WINDMILL MOVIE (Alexander Olch, USA) Richard P. Rogers, film teacher, films himself for his whole life, pretty much, but can't wrap the whole thing up before his death. One of his students finishes it for him. Wallace Shawn and Bob Balaban drop in, but they can't compare to the Richard P. Rogers show: http://movies.nytimes.com/2009/06/17/movies/17windmill.html >> 10. AN AUDIENCE OF ONE (Mike Jacobs, USA) Bay Area preacher wants to make a Biblical science fiction epic, decides to start shooting in Italy. You might guess some of the rest, but not all: http://www.villagevoice.com/2009-05-06/film/audience-of-one-greatest-folly-is-its-filmmaker/ ...and if I'd been thinking right I'd have swapped out AN AUDIENCE OF ONE for: TALHOTBLOND (Barbara Schroeder, USA) "Everybody lies online," runs this documentary's tagline, which only brings up the question, "Doesn't everybody lie anyway?" In this case however, blood spilled: http://talhotblond.com/ ...and for anyone who doesn't know BALLAST or PONYO: http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081029/REVIEWS/810309995/1023 http://www.nwasianweekly.com/wp/category/arts-entertainment/ And no, I haven't seen the new Tarantino yet, Andy Fragment of an Ode to Maia Mother of Hermes! and still youthful Maia! May I sing to thee As thou wast hymned on the shores of Baiae? Or may I woo thee In earlier Sicilian? or thy smiles Seek as they once were sought, in Grecian isles, By bards who died content on pleasant sward, Leaving great verse unto a little clan? O give me their old vigour! and unheard Save of the quiet primrose, and the span Of heaven, and few ears, Rounded by thee, my song should die away Content as theirs, Rich in the simple worship of a day. - --John Keats ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:30:23 -0700 From: Andrew Hamlin Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Smiths reissues > Nothing the Smiths did, or Morrissey since, has ever been a true chart > hit in the U.S. The Smiths, okay. Morrissey solo, depends on what you mean by "true chart hit": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morrissey_discography > Remember, kids, > if majorettes in Nebraska weren't doing a fire baton routine to it, it > wasn't actually a hit. I once knew a lady who'd done a high school pom-pom routine to OMD's "Tesla Girls." She came from Chicago though which (maybe) doesn't qualify as Nebraska, Andy "Many hot moans came into the world only with the help our super-male-boosters!" - --from some spam captioned "Formula for getting super-stiffy" I got the other day ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 12:48:24 -1000 From: "R. Kevin Doyle" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Smiths reissues Funny story related to the whole "underground in the 80's, popular now" thing. I was a bit of a terror as the program director of my college radio station, WRBC, in the late 80's. I earned the ire of a good section of our student DJ population by insisting that everyone play at least two tracks from a new album per show. Mind you, I didn't specify genres or anything - just that DJs play new stuff occasionally. Heck, they could still play 'Suite: Judy Blue Eyes,' but maybe find a new release by Neil Young and play a track from that. Anyhow, one dude who particularly disliked my policy decisions was a major classic rock fan by the name of Dave. Dave's show consisted of CSN, Foghat, Skynyrd, and a dozen other bands that were getting a ton of play on the local classic rock station. I personally never understood why a college radio DJ would want to play the exact same music they could hear 24/7 on a channel three number up the dial, but just asking that they play two new songs per show was the best I could get passed by the executive board. Dave would listen to my show and call in to heckle. My presence on this list suggests that my tastes run at least a little bit outside the mainstream, but Dave wasn't even having it when I played, say "Sledgehammer" when it was first released. We graduated and I never saw him again. Two years ago, an old friend of mine from high school found herself working with my old nemesis from college. He was playing a mix-CD of groups like The Replacements and The Pixies, etc. They got to talking and learned that they both knew me and he told this same story from his side, admitting that the very music he was playing now was the music he used to heckle me for playing. "Turns out, he was right," Dave told my old friend. My high school friends related this to me. While I confess feeling good that this guy eventually learned that some of the stuff I played wasn't as bad as he thought it was, I also recognize two things: 1) The music he is listening to now is just as old now as the music he was playing on the air in the 80's was then. 2) My playing the music ultimately had no effect on him beyond introducing him to it - he no doubt became a fan because a lot of the underground music of the 80's has become ubiquitous. I mean, how many new Pixies fans sprang into existence because of the end of 'Fight Club,' you know? Anyhow, this whole story is apropos of nothing, but where else can one share it? R. Kevin On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Andrew Hamlin wrote: >> Nothing the Smiths did, or Morrissey since, has ever been a true chart >> hit in the U.S. > > The Smiths, okay. Morrissey solo, depends on what you mean by "true chart hit": > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morrissey_discography > >> Remember, kids, >> if majorettes in Nebraska weren't doing a fire baton routine to it, it >> wasn't actually a hit. > > I once knew a lady who'd done a high school pom-pom routine to OMD's > "Tesla Girls." > > She came from Chicago though which (maybe) doesn't qualify as Nebraska, > > Andy > > > "Many hot moans came into the world only with the help our super-male-boosters!" > > --from some spam captioned "Formula for getting super-stiffy" I got > the other day ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:19:11 -0700 From: Steve Holtebeck Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Smiths reissues On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Miles Goosens wrote: > Seriously, if the actual '80s had been a time where > "Blitzkreig Bop," "Psycho Killer," and "Ever Fallen In Love" were all > over U.S. radio, I would have been a much happier person at the time > instead of the outcast who listened to "weird shit." Why would you have been happier if 80s radio was still spinning oldies from the 70s? Those three songs are (c) 1976, 1977, and 1978 respectively - -Steve ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:32:33 EDT From: Markwstaples@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Smiths reissues True, but '80s format(ted) stations that concentrate(d) on New Wave throw those into the '80s music. Rhino's NEW WAVE HITS series from about 15 years back did the same thing. And, to Andy, OMD were in a John Hughes film, and he set/did 'em all set in Chicago, right? Chicago must've been OMD friendly, like The Judybats were in Baltimore. - --Mark In a message dated 8/27/2009 7:34:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, sholtebeck@gmail.com writes: Those three songs are (c) 1976, 1977, and 1978 respectively - -Steve ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:45:23 EDT From: Markwstaples@aol.com Subject: [loud-fans] ? Btw, my posts sent from work on my break/after school have these question marks appearing. I've no idea why. I guess I'll quit writing from work. Speaking of work, you're only supposed to have three special ed kids per aide. Thanks to Mark Sanford's budget cuts (stupid jackass--wish he'd gone to stay with his mistress and never come back), I now have 4. We have kindergarten kids with 4th graders this year !! Early childhood children DO NOT belong with intermediate elementary children in the same classroom. And, the kindergarten kids don't know how to do or read cued speech (sort of like sign language) so I can't really communicate with them very well. If I disappear suddenly from the dialogue, it's because I had a stroke. - --Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 21:55:55 -0400 From: sleeveless@zoominternet.net Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Smiths reissues On Thu 27/08/09 6:48 PM , "R. Kevin Doyle" r.kevin.doyle@gmail.com sent: I personally never > understood why a college radio DJ would want to play the exact same > music they could hear 24/7 on a channel three number up the dial My experience as a DJ taught me that most DJs just want to play what they like. They don't care if someone else is playing it. They are out to push what they like, often with a mind to "converting" anyone with different taste. They also like to be stubborn and buck authority, even if the rules are mild and make sense. DJ=rebel in a lot of DJs thinking. Jen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 17:04:54 -1000 From: "R. Kevin Doyle" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Smiths reissues On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:55 PM, wrote: > On Thu 27/08/09 6:48 PM , "R. Kevin Doyle" r.kevin.doyle@gmail.com sent: > I personally never >> understood why a college radio DJ would want to play the exact same >> music they could hear 24/7 on a channel three number up the dial > > My experience as a DJ taught me that most DJs just want to play what they like. > They don't care if someone else is playing it. They are out to push what they > like, often with a mind to "converting" anyone with different taste. They also > like to be stubborn and buck authority, even if the rules are mild and make > sense. DJ=rebel in a lot of DJs thinking. > > Jen > Point taken, though rebelling via making conservative music choices seems painfully misguided. ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V8 #160 *******************************