From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V8 #153 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Friday, August 21 2009 Volume 08 : Number 153 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [loud-fans] Album(s) Of The Decade? [Jer Fairall ] Re: [loud-fans] Re: Albums of the Decade [Miles Goosens ] Re: [loud-fans] Re: Albums of the Decade [treesprite@earthlink.net] Re: [loud-fans] Film 2009? [Roger Winston ] Re: [loud-fans] Re: Albums of the Decade [Roger Winston ] Re: [loud-fans] jazz piano recommendations? ["Tim Walters" ] Re: [loud-fans] jazz piano recommendations? [Andrew Hamlin ] [loud-fans] Some PASSING STRANGE info [JRT456@aol.com] Re: [loud-fans] Film 2009? [JRT456@aol.com] Re: [loud-fans] jazz piano recommendations? [Gil Ray ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 10:07:08 -0400 From: Jer Fairall Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Album(s) Of The Decade? I'm gonna take the extra four months to whittle down the decade to ten albums but, for now, the long list: Arcade Fire - FUNERAL Bright Eyes - I'M WIDE AWAKE IT'S MORNING Ben Folds - ROCKIN' THE SUBURBS Bloc Party - SILENT ALARM Neko Case - MIDDLE CYCLONE Christine Fellows - PAPER ANNIVERSARY Interpol - TURN ON THE BRIGHT LIGHTS Jimmy Eat World - BLEED AMERICAN LCD Soundsystem - SOUND OF SILVER Ted Leo/Pharmacists - HEARTS OF OAK The Loud Family, ATTRACTIVE NUISANCE Aimee Mann - LOST IN SPACE M.I.A. - KALA The Mountain Goats - WE SHALL ALL BE HEALED The New Pornographers - TWIN CINEMA Now It's Overhead - FALL BACK OPEN The Postal Service - GIVE UP Rilo Kiley - MORE ADVENTUROUS Sage Francis - A HEALTHY DISTRUST Scissor Sisters - TA-DAH! Regina Spektor - SOVIET KITSCH Stars - SET YOURSELF ON FIRE Subtle - FOR HERO: FOR FOOL Wale - THE MIXTAPE ABOUT NOTHING The Weakerthans, LEFT & LEAVING Wheat - PER SECOND, PER SECOND, PER SECOND...EVERY SECOND Why? - ELEPHANT EYELASH Dar Williams - THE GREEN WORLD Lucinda Williams - WORLD WITHOUT TEARS Youth Group - SKELETON JAR ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 10:48:38 -0400 From: outbound-only email address Subject: [loud-fans] Re: Albums of the Decade Jer's swell list reminded obliquely that I can't believe I left this off my earlier attempt: *W* *R* *E* *N* *S* *T* *H* *E* *M* *E* *A* *D* *O* *W* *L* *A* *N* *D* *S* Unless something amazing comes out this fall, that's a lock on #1. I've been spending yesterafternoon/thismorning in the musical company of Ted Leo, and although I plumped for "Hearts of Oak" before, now I'm wondering if "Shake the Sheets" or "Living with the Living" might actually be stronger, or maybe inclining to Miles' view that none of his very good albums are really best-of-decade material. Dunno. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm gonna take the extra four months to whittle down the decade to ten albums but, for now, the long list: Arcade Fire - FUNERAL Bright Eyes - I'M WIDE AWAKE IT'S MORNING Ben Folds - ROCKIN' THE SUBURBS Bloc Party - SILENT ALARM Neko Case - MIDDLE CYCLONE Christine Fellows - PAPER ANNIVERSARY Interpol - TURN ON THE BRIGHT LIGHTS Jimmy Eat World - BLEED AMERICAN LCD Soundsystem - SOUND OF SILVER Ted Leo/Pharmacists - HEARTS OF OAK The Loud Family, ATTRACTIVE NUISANCE Aimee Mann - LOST IN SPACE M.I.A. - KALA The Mountain Goats - WE SHALL ALL BE HEALED The New Pornographers - TWIN CINEMA Now It's Overhead - FALL BACK OPEN The Postal Service - GIVE UP Rilo Kiley - MORE ADVENTUROUS Sage Francis - A HEALTHY DISTRUST Scissor Sisters - TA-DAH! Regina Spektor - SOVIET KITSCH Stars - SET YOURSELF ON FIRE Subtle - FOR HERO: FOR FOOL Wale - THE MIXTAPE ABOUT NOTHING The Weakerthans, LEFT & LEAVING Wheat - PER SECOND, PER SECOND, PER SECOND...EVERY SECOND Why? - ELEPHANT EYELASH Dar Williams - THE GREEN WORLD Lucinda Williams - WORLD WITHOUT TEARS Youth Group - SKELETON JAR ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:03:56 +0100 From: Ian Runeckles Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Re: Tull There was an Island collection issued here in the UK some years back called Elements but I downloaded it as mp3s from amazon.co.uk a few months ago - wonderful. Collects Floating World, Waves, Kites and Way Of The Sun. Bit pricey on CD though as is OOP. Ian Tim Walters wrote: > Steve Schiavo wrote: >> I listened to Floating World, Waves, and Kites all the time when they >> came out. All excellent. > > Add WAY OF THE SUN (my favorite), and you have, I believe, the complete > stripid set. > >> > > Or not; looks like REFLECTIONS is in as well. That one I don't know. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:30:40 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Re: Albums of the Decade On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 9:48 AM, outbound-only email address wrote: > I've been spending yesterafternoon/thismorning in the musical company > of Ted Leo, and although I plumped for "Hearts of Oak" before, now I'm > wondering if "Shake the Sheets" or "Living with the Living" might > actually be stronger, I've been surprised to see SHAKE THE SHEETS as a candidate on a couple of lists so far - it's very good, sure, but to me, the Leo formula was also getting a little stale by then too. As good as that album is, I come away primarily thinking it's More of the Same. On the other hand, LIVING WITH THE LIVING serves up a flock of needed changeups and reminded me why I do, indeed, love me some Ted Leo. > or maybe inclining to Miles' view that none of > his very good albums are really best-of-decade material. Dunno. Hey, waitaminit - I think that at least three of them are right up there. I just had at least ten albums from 2000-2009 that I liked better. later, Miles - -- now with blogspot retsin! http://readingpronunciation.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:45:18 -0700 From: Andrew Hamlin Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Album(s) Of The Decade? On 8/19/09, jacklip@charter.net wrote: > Which earned them a Grammy nomination for best new artist...(???) Well, we remember who won for Best Hard Rock/Metal Performance Vocal or Instrumental back in '89, eh? How I do love tying threads together, Andy Moon Fire, a kindly warlock, preached to a small crowd that had gathered under the stage for shelter. A tall man with red-brown hair and shining eyes, barefoot and naked under his robes, he had traveled to the festival with his lover, a sheep ("call her 'Sunshine' if you're a vegetarian, 'Chops' if you're not," he said.) Off in a corner was his staff, topped by a human skull, the pole bearing his message: "Don't Eat Animals, Love Them/the Killing of Animals Creates the Killing of Men." He carefully explained how sheep were blessed with the greatest capacity for love of all animals, how a sheep could actually conceive by a man, though, tragically, perhaps because of some forgotten curse, the offspring was doomed to die at birth. Albert Grossman, his pigtail soaking wet, was standing nearby and Moon Fire ambled over to lay on his blessing. Grossman dug it. Rain simply meant it was a good time to meet new people. - --Greil Marcus, from his report on Woodstock (the original) at http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/27360622/the_woodstock_festival/1 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:03:29 -0700 From: Andrew Hamlin Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Album(s) Of The Decade? > He doesn't list KID A? Seriously? It's my least-favorite Radiohead album > since > the debut, but even though I agree that recent albums haven't had loads > of > time to change music, that seems an oversight. > > Does he list any They Might Be Giants albums, though? That's the first > credibility test that comes to my mind. Their impact on the influx of > nerds > into successful rock music-making was huge, and little has changed > popular > music more than that. I just checked the book, and nope, no KID A. Judging by the index, TMBG doesn't even get a mention. I guess they don't fit with his methodology (check the .sig), Andy "But this book is not about favorites--there are, frankly, albums here that I cannot bear to listen to. However, all attempts have been made to push aesthetics asid and measure to the greatest extent possible the impact these albums have made on American culture. Dozens of music journalists, historians, academics, and industry insiders have provided suggestions and analysis about these selections... So what makes an album 'important'? Sales figures? Chart placement? Longevity? These and many other factors were considered, but in a nutshell, these albums were selected for the impact they made on American music specifically and American culture in general, either directly (such as the hordes of preteen boy toys hatched after Madonna's 1984 'Like A Virgin' and the soundtrack to the summer of love provided by Jefferson Airplane's 1967 'Surrealistic Pillow') or indirectly (such as the instant revitalization of blues-based rock in the 1960s by Robert Johnson's 'King of the Delta Blues Singers' and again in the 1980s by Stevie Ray Vaughan's 'Texas Flood') I would be shocked beyond belief if a single reader agreed with every selection, and there are certainly other ways of weighting the criteria to come up with an entirely different list...I ask, when you read these entries, that you suspend judgement on the aesthetic appeal of these selections, and simply try to see how each album, in the context of its own place and time, somehow made a difference." - --excerpted from the preface to Chris Smith's 101 ALBUMS THAT CHANGED POPULAR MUSIC ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:19:33 -0700 From: Andrew Hamlin Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Album(s) Of The Decade? > > and I'm unlikely to ponder > > anything masterminded by that girlfriend-stealing carbuncle sometimes > > called S. Kilbey; > > A fair number of us folks can handle the cognitive dissonance. It's a > fair tradeoff in my book for the Church's ever-gloriously gorgeous > sound, but it's completely understandable to me that it could be a > dealbreaker for someone else. Fair enough I suppose. That thread about the Kilbey book certainly got me thinking. About the obvious--well, the obvious to us at least: the majesty and the mastery and the breathtakingness of (not to mention the community facilitated by) Scott's music, how it's nourished and rewarded contemplation through the decades... But in a history written for the winners, it all passes by in two words: "unremarkable warble." So thought of how I'd describe the winning side within that same limitation. I pondered "girlfriend-stealing lesion," but that didn't get down to the *pus* of the matter. Still working on two words for Mr. Easter, Andy "The shackles of an old love straitened him, His honour rooted in dishonour stood, And faith unfaithful kept him falsely true." - --Alfred Tennyson Tennyson, from "Idylls of the King: Lancelot and Elaine" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:37:42 -0700 From: Andrew Hamlin Subject: [loud-fans] The Alternative Hero, by Tim Thornton Just finished reading this novel and proclaim it a fine addition to the Hall Of Rock Novels. I had to break out Wikipedia for some of the British-isms (GCSE, XFM) but on the whole Thornton creates memorable characters and guides them believably through some hard-to-believe circumstances. Recommended to all. Gotta love a narrator who says he "won't go all Nick Hornby" and then goes all Nick Hornby, Andy Ex-reporter Jayson Blair now working as life coach By MATTHEW BARAKAT, Associated Press Writer Matthew Barakat, Associated Press Writer  Thu Aug 20, 6:28 am ET McLEAN, Va.  Jayson Blair knows his new profession  life coach  smacks some people in the face like a bad punchline. "People say, 'Wait a minute. You're a life coach?' That makes no sense,'" says Blair, the ex-journalist best known for foisting plagiarism and fabrications into the pages of The New York Times. "Then they think about my life experiences and what I've been through and they say 'Wait a minute. It does make sense.'" Blair, 33, resigned from the Times in 2003, leaving a journalistic scandal in his wake. The resulting furor led the paper's top two newsroom executives to resign. Blair wrote a book, then mostly disappeared from view. For the past two years, he has been quietly working as a certified life coach for one of the most respected mental health practices in northern Virginia. "He can relate to patients just beautifully," said Michael Oberschneider, the psychologist who hired Blair and urged him to become a life coach. "Sometimes you just meet people in life who have these electric personalities. Well, Jayson is now using his talents for good." Oberschneider, director of Ashburn Psychological Services, took an interest in Blair after seeing him lead a support group for people with bipolar disorder that Blair founded in his hometown of Centreville after being diagnosed himself. Oberschneider said he took a long, hard look at Blair before hiring him, in large part because of his past, which included substance abuse. But he was impressed at the rapport Blair had established with members of the support group. "Very few people can go through what he did and come back," Oberschneider said. "He really is a success story." Blair says his empathy for his clients is his biggest asset. "They know I've been in their shoes," he said. "I think it can feel a little more authentic." - --from http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_jayson_blair ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:11:11 -0600 From: Roger Winston Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Re: Albums of the Decade On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Miles Goosens wrote: I've been surprised to see SHAKE THE SHEETS as a candidate on a couple > of lists so far - it's very good, sure, but to me, the Leo formula was > also getting a little stale by then too. As good as that album is, I > come away primarily thinking it's More of the Same. > > On the other hand, LIVING WITH THE LIVING serves up a flock of needed > changeups and reminded me why I do, indeed, love me some Ted Leo. Since this is my Disagree With Miles Week, I have to argue. To me, SHAKE THE SHEETS is the epitome of the Ted Leo sound, while LIVING WITH THE LIVING was the discouraging one and a bit over the top. I put HEARTS OF OAK between them, but much closer to SHEETS. To put it in other terms: HEARTS OF OAK = SPIDER-MAN 1 SHAKE THE SHEETS = SPIDER-MAN 2 LIVING WITH THE LIVING = SPIDER-MAN 3 Latre. --Rog ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:34:51 -0700 From: Andrew Hamlin Subject: [loud-fans] Film 2009? Here's the Ten Best I've seen in Seattle this year, so far: 1. BALLAST (Lance Hammer, USA) 2. PONYO (Miyazaki Hayao, Japan) 3. STATE OF PLAY (Kevin Macdonald, USA/UK/France) 4. THROW DOWN YOUR HEART (Sascha Paladino, USA) 5. KABEI: OUR MOTHER (Yamada Yoji, Japan) 6. STILL WALKING (Kore-eda Hirokazu, Japan) 7. THE RED JACKET (Zou Yalin, China) 8. TELSTAR (Nick Moran, UK) 9. THE WINDMILL MOVIE (Alexander Olch, USA) 10. AN AUDIENCE OF ONE (Mike Jacobs, USA) Naturally, I look forward to Dan Sallitt's views on all of the above. And heck, maybe Rog's watched one or two of those (for once), Andy "Nobody understands me, nor can they endure my tuba" - --headline from Roger Ebert's review of "You, The Living," directed by Roy Andersson, at www.rogerebert.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:50:30 -0400 (EDT) From: treesprite@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Re: Albums of the Decade >Since this is my Disagree With Miles Week, I have to argue. To me, SHAKE >THE SHEETS is the epitome of the Ted Leo sound, while LIVING WITH THE LIVING >was the discouraging one and a bit over the top. I put HEARTS OF OAK >between them, but much closer to SHEETS. Ah, this must be my Disagree With Other Ted Leo Fans week! I don't like anything after Hearts Of Oak. I'm not entirely sure why -- i've put on my nerdy, analytical hat and come to no real conclusion. Hearts Of Oak is the masterpiece to me and Tyranny Of Distance is a close second. I guess Shake The Sheets would be third, but I didn't keep it. Partly I miss the second guitar player and the violin -- they were a big part of that Hearts-era genius. The Spider-Man movie comparisons confused me -- use the X-Men movies next time! Is anyone else here reading the 20th Century Boys manga? B ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:50:18 -0600 From: Roger Winston Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Film 2009? On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Andrew Hamlin wrote: Here's the Ten Best I've seen in Seattle this year, so far: > > 1. BALLAST (Lance Hammer, USA) > 2. PONYO (Miyazaki Hayao, Japan) > 3. STATE OF PLAY (Kevin Macdonald, USA/UK/France) > 4. THROW DOWN YOUR HEART (Sascha Paladino, USA) > 5. KABEI: OUR MOTHER (Yamada Yoji, Japan) > 6. STILL WALKING (Kore-eda Hirokazu, Japan) > 7. THE RED JACKET (Zou Yalin, China) > 8. TELSTAR (Nick Moran, UK) > 9. THE WINDMILL MOVIE (Alexander Olch, USA) > 10. AN AUDIENCE OF ONE (Mike Jacobs, USA) > > Naturally, I look forward to Dan Sallitt's views on all of the above. > > And heck, maybe Rog's watched one or two of those (for once), No, I generally avoid mainstream Hollywood fare. Latre. --Rog ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:56:44 -0600 From: Roger Winston Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Re: Albums of the Decade On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 4:50 PM, wrote: The Spider-Man movie comparisons confused me -- use the X-Men movies next > time! That works just as well. HEARTS OF OAK = X-MEN 1 SHAKE THE SHEETS = X-MEN 2 LIVING WITH THE LIVING = X-MEN 3 Okay, maybe LIVING wasn't X3 bad... Latre. --Rog ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:51:30 -0400 From: Jenny Grover Subject: [loud-fans] jazz piano recommendations? I want some jazz piano to listen to that isn't "smooth" jazz, isn't ordinary, isn't lounge-y, and in which the piano really comes to the fore, not just as a supporting role. I want something fast, lively, jagged and different. Any suggestions? A particular Thelonious Monk album? I'm downloading Cecil Taylor's "Air" off eMusic right now. Jen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:30:08 -0400 From: Jer Fairall Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Film 2009? Yeesh. I've heard of exactly two of these (the Top 2, in fact) and seen exactly none. More info, please? On 20-Aug-09, at 6:34 PM, Andrew Hamlin wrote: > Here's the Ten Best I've seen in Seattle this year, so far: > > 1. BALLAST (Lance Hammer, USA) > 2. PONYO (Miyazaki Hayao, Japan) > 3. STATE OF PLAY (Kevin Macdonald, USA/UK/France) > 4. THROW DOWN YOUR HEART (Sascha Paladino, USA) > 5. KABEI: OUR MOTHER (Yamada Yoji, Japan) > 6. STILL WALKING (Kore-eda Hirokazu, Japan) > 7. THE RED JACKET (Zou Yalin, China) > 8. TELSTAR (Nick Moran, UK) > 9. THE WINDMILL MOVIE (Alexander Olch, USA) > 10. AN AUDIENCE OF ONE (Mike Jacobs, USA) > > Naturally, I look forward to Dan Sallitt's views on all of the above. > > And heck, maybe Rog's watched one or two of those (for once), > > Andy > > > "Nobody understands me, nor > can they endure my tuba" > > --headline from Roger Ebert's review of "You, The Living," directed by > Roy Andersson, at www.rogerebert.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:03:26 -0700 (PDT) From: "Tim Walters" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] jazz piano recommendations? Oscar Peterson: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAH4DXsNSyo McCoy Tyner: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3LTh99BeL4 Paul Bley: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0SL5CxZrwc Art Tatum: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9Cs_zb4q14 Bill Evans: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C84KmJwtPeI - -- Tim Walters | http://doubtfulpalace.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:16:17 -0400 (EDT) From: treesprite@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [loud-fans] jazz piano recommendations? Yes, and: T Monk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2s6LZUdYaU - -----Original Message----- >From: Tim Walters >Sent: Aug 20, 2009 9:03 PM >To: loud-fans@smoe.org >Subject: Re: [loud-fans] jazz piano recommendations? > >Oscar Peterson: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAH4DXsNSyo > >McCoy Tyner: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3LTh99BeL4 > >Paul Bley: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0SL5CxZrwc > >Art Tatum: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9Cs_zb4q14 > >Bill Evans: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C84KmJwtPeI > >-- >Tim Walters | http://doubtfulpalace.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:06:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Dan Sallitt Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Film 2009? > Here's the Ten Best I've seen in Seattle this year, so far: > > 1. BALLAST (Lance Hammer, USA) > 2. PONYO (Miyazaki Hayao, Japan) > 3. STATE OF PLAY (Kevin Macdonald, USA/UK/France) > 4. THROW DOWN YOUR HEART (Sascha Paladino, USA) > 5. KABEI: OUR MOTHER (Yamada Yoji, Japan) > 6. STILL WALKING (Kore-eda Hirokazu, Japan) > 7. THE RED JACKET (Zou Yalin, China) > 8. TELSTAR (Nick Moran, UK) > 9. THE WINDMILL MOVIE (Alexander Olch, USA) > 10. AN AUDIENCE OF ONE (Mike Jacobs, USA) > > Naturally, I look forward to Dan Sallitt's views on all of the above. I've seen only one movie on your list, but I love it: BALLAST. http://www.panix.com/~sallitt/blog/2008/05/ballast-bam-may-31-2008.html - - Dan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:32:49 -0700 From: Andrew Hamlin Subject: Re: [loud-fans] jazz piano recommendations? On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Jenny Grover wrote: > I want some jazz piano to listen to that isn't "smooth" jazz, isn't > ordinary, isn't lounge-y, and in which the piano really comes to the fore, > not just as a supporting role. I want something fast, lively, jagged and > different. Any suggestions? A particular Thelonious Monk album? I'm > downloading Cecil Taylor's "Air" off eMusic right now. Well you won't find "ordinary" in any note Monk ever played, so by that rationale any of his records will do! Christgau did proclaim MYSTERIOSO, from 1958, his favorite record of all time, so that's as good a place to start as any. I can recommend Cecil Taylor's solo piano album SILENT TONGUES and his ensemble album IT IS IN THE BREWING LUMINOUS. Once more, never a normal microtone. I must speak up for Bill Evans' THE COMPLETE VILLAGE VANGUARD RECORDINGS 1961, which I proclaim one of the greatest jazz albums ever released, full stop, although parts of it appeared earlier on two albums called SUNDAY AT THE VILLAGE VANGUARD and WALTZ FOR DEBBY. You usually don't get "fast" and you practically never get "jagged" but "lively" and "different" fit well enough. More importantly I can't imagine anyone not loving Evans' chordal-based lyricism. Most importantly, the three musicians--Evans, bassist Scott LaFaro, and drummer Paul Motian--seem to combine into one creature with six arms playing three instruments at once. I've never heard, out of all the great music delivered to me in my life, anything else with that quality. I know much less about Bud Powell than I should, but jazz critics consider him at least as brilliant as Monk, so throw something by him on the pile. Hazel Scott died lamentably forgotten. She learned from Art Tatum and did some of the same things he did, but she's worth listening to in her own right: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pD1aNmjGMQ&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roQcgp-T6eI&feature=related And finally (for now) don't forget Ahmad Jamal, coming up on 80 and still, judging by the set I caught at Jazz Alley the other week, blowing people's minds all over the world. Apart from that, everything everybody else said. If you're looking for a decent guide to (all kinds of) jazz (except maybe smooth), Ben Ratliff's THE NEW YORK TIMES ESSENTIAL LIBRARY: JAZZ: A CRITIC'S GUIDE TO THE MOST IMPORTANT 100 RECORDINGS, makes for a mouthful, but thoughtful reading. Oh--and Fat Waller--enough said! Andy Thelonious Monk: Ken Burns Jazz [Columbia/Legacy, 2000] I like every album he ever made, and they do vary sonically. But Monk's piano is so distinct that from 1947 "Night in Tunisia" rewrite to 1971 "Nice Work If You Can Get It" decon this collection moves as one thing. Like Basie, Monk is a minimalist master of silence and space. But where Basie's few notes imply the full-bodied riff he's prepared for the band, Monk writes the way he plays. His tunes are spare, misshapen things that seemed bizarre in the '40s and eccentric in the '50s--and that now sound like they've always been there. Except for the late "Green Chimneys," every head singled out here is a known classic, equally potent and idiomatic whether Monk trips around trio or solo, corrals Rollins or Coltrane, or slips a little something to the boon companion of his icon years, tenor man Charlie Rouse. And then there are the wickedly timed and modulated comps that mine his sidemen's staunchest efforts. So humorous. So pointed. So on the fractal. A+ - --Robert Christgau, from http://robertchristgau.com/get_artist2.php?id=5555 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:33:31 -0700 From: Michael Mitton Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Film 2009? > "Nobody understands me, nor > can they endure my tuba" > --headline from Roger Ebert's review of "You, The Living," Did you also catch the first line of Ebert's "Passing Strange" review: "'Passing Strange' is one of the best musicals I've seen." Michael Z recently mentioned how much harder it was to keep up on music with a new baby. Too true, but goes doubly for movies! It's hard to remember anything that happened before the baby came, but a recent night to myself could not have been spent better than watching "The Hurt Locker." (Passing Strange goes to Video on Demand next week.) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:40:41 EDT From: JRT456@aol.com Subject: [loud-fans] Some PASSING STRANGE info At last night's performance of Stew & Heidi's "The Broadway Problem" at Lincoln Center, the folks from IFC were handing out flyers about the filmed stage play going to VOD on 8/26. The film also opens tomorrow at the IFC Center in Manhattan. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:48:33 EDT From: JRT456@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Film 2009? In a message dated 8/20/09 11:35:27 PM, mlmitton@gmail.com writes: > (Passing Strange goes to Video on Demand next week.) > Okay, so some redundancy there. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:08:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Gil Ray Subject: Re: [loud-fans] jazz piano recommendations? > Hazel Scott died lamentably forgotten. She learned > from Art Tatum and > did some of the same things he did, but she's worth > listening to in > her own right: Stacey loves Hazel Scott....I'm glad you mentioned her! Gil ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V8 #153 *******************************