From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V8 #149 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Monday, August 17 2009 Volume 08 : Number 149 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [loud-fans] from the web (no author credit given from bclocalnews.com) [M] [loud-fans] Joe Pernice book [Markwstaples@aol.com] Re: [loud-fans] Joe Pernice book ["Michael W. Zwirn" ] Re: [loud-fans] R.I.P. Jim Dickinson [Jenny Grover ] [loud-fans] Album(s) Of The Decade? [Andrew Hamlin Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Joe Pernice book I haven't read it yet, but I saw Joe at a reading/performance at the Iota in Arlington, Va. last week in which he did a few chapters. I'm interested enough to read it, but not to pay full price for a hardback ;) As a record, by the way, the covers "soundtrack" to the book includes some songs I really just dislike (Rundgren's "Hello, It's Me" and the "Chim Chim Chiroo" song from _Mary Poppins_). The Sebadoh "Soul and Fire" is very good, though.Michael W. Zwirnmichael@zwirn.comSkype: zwirnm-----Original Message-----From: Markwstaples@aol.comDate: 08/16/2009 01:27 PMTo: loud-fans@smoe.orgSubject: Re: [loud-fans] Joe Pernice bookI don't remember who it was, but someone on here mentioned Pernice's album (novel soundtrack) IT FEELS SO GOOD WHEN I STOP as a year favorite. I am really enjoying it too, but was wondering if anyone has read the book? Thoughts? MEAT IS MURDER kind of left me annoyed with the ending--like how so many indie flick's tend to not give closure and then the credits roll. I like the excerpt he reads on the album about placing Del Shannon on a low level with Pat Boone when he was young. "Why? Because I didn't know what the f*** I was talking about." --Mark, who MUST mow the lawn--which I place on the same plane of enjoyment as listening to Rush Limbaugh or gauging my eyes out with a rusty clothes hanger "Brain research tells us that only twenty percent of human beings have a sense of irony, which means that eighty percent of the world takes everything at face value." (Coupland--OMG this is a chilling thought, almost as scary as Kurt Vonnegut's Ice-9) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:49:12 -0400 From: Jenny Grover Subject: Re: [loud-fans] R.I.P. Jim Dickinson Markwstaples@aol.com wrote: > "If God drives a car, Hebd drive a 1973 Ford LTD Brougham sedan with a > claret-colored vinyl roof, with oxblood leather upholstery and an opera > window." (Douglas Coupland) > Personally, I think he'd drive a Lotus. Jen ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 13:44:04 -0700 From: Andrew Hamlin Subject: Re: [loud-fans] sad news I have two uncles, both agreeably eccentric, one at least a fair-sized Zappa fan--but I learned about TROUT MASK REPLICA the same way I learned about anything not available at the local library: from Nick Logan and Bob Woffinden's ILLUSTRATED ENCYCLOPEDIA OF ROCK (bolstered with Lillian Roxon's ROCK ENCYCLOPEDIA, but I don't recall a Captain Beefheart entry in that one). They called TROUT MASK "one of the most advanced concepts in rock music," or words to that effect. Found the thing in a bookstore window and brought it home. $7.50, the sticker still stuck to the front last time I checked. Took me a long time to think the $7.50 wasn't a horrible waste. But once I learned to love the record, no turning back. I've probably told this story before, but my friends hated the album so much they whipped open a dictionary to the definition of "music," proclaiming that Beefheart couldn't possibly meet that definition. I haven't trusted a dictionary since... Andy "Will Burton lives within himself. A high school kid, new in town, hes too much of a geek to have any hope of dating the girls he notices in school. He lives in a room he has made a shrine to David Bowie (with whom he has a daily one-way e-mail correspondence) and wishes he had been born soon enough to frequent CBGB, a legendary New York club that was one of the launching pads for punk rock." - --Roger Ebert, from his review of the movie BANDSLAM at http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090812/REVIEWS/908129991 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:15:19 -0700 From: Andrew Hamlin Subject: [loud-fans] Album(s) Of The Decade? So far all I can think of is AMERCIAN IV: THE MAN COMES AROUND by Johnny Cash and THE FINEST THING by Lori Carson. Tris McCall calls Kanye West's 808S & HEARTBREAK the one album for which he'd break his fifteen-year rule with a "gun to my head." Chris Smith, in his 101 ALBUMS THAT CHANGED POPULAR MUSIC: A REFERENCE GUIDE--a work he assures me is "sans taste--listed only one album released after New Year's Day 2000: ELEPHANT by White Stripes (an album I like, though it strongly suggests Zeppelin). Anybody else's thoughts? God probably drives a Tucker Tornado, by the way, Andy "Til Death Do Us Part" - --from some spam I got the other week headed "high heels and thigh highs" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 17:40:42 EDT From: Markwstaples@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] R.I.P. Jim Dickinson Thinking about it, I see God throwing everyone a curve and driving a primered '76 Chevette with AM radio. - --Mark In a message dated 8/16/2009 3:09:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, sleeveless@zoominternet.net writes: Personally, I think he'd drive a Lotus. Jen ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 18:17:01 EDT From: Markwstaples@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Joe Pernice book I've only seen him once, in Athens at Tasty World about 5 (?) years ago (I forget), and he was very personable after the show and talked about his Smiths book with me and a friend of mine. I like the Rundgren cover myself (I think Hoffs and Sweet do it better though), as well as the Mary Poppins tune--I like the low-fi hiss of it--it adds an eerieness (definitely not shiny happy Disney), though knowing Pernice with his Masters in Fine Arts and his love of black and white "Chappaquiddick Skyline" bleakness, this could very well have been a premeditation for artistic effect (but so what). Amazon has some used around 10 bucks--if I have the extra to spare this paycheck, I think I'll buy it. I like what he reads from the book about Rundgren being "off-limits" after a painful breakup, and that this included anyone he produced, including XTC and The Psychedelic Furs. That's youthful passion for you. You gotta do what you gotta do--stop the painful association. (If our hearts don't kill us when were young, they sometimes get hurt so bad we wish we were dead) - --Mark In a message dated 8/16/2009 2:43:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, michael@zwirn.com writes: I saw Joe at a reading/performance at the Iota in Arlington, Va. last week in which he did a few chapters. I'm interested enough to read it, but not to pay full price for a hardback ;) As a record, by the way, the covers "soundtrack" to the book includes some songs I really just dislike (Rundgren's "Hello, It's Me" and the "Chim Chim Chiroo" song from _Mary Poppins_). ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:27:49 -0700 From: "Brian Block" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Album(s) Of The Decade? >Chris Smith, in his 101 >ALBUMS THAT CHANGED POPULAR MUSIC: A REFERENCE GUIDE--a work he >assures me is "sans taste--listed only one album released after New >Year's Day 2000: ELEPHANT by White Stripes (an album I like, though >it strongly suggests Zeppelin).> He doesn't list KID A? Seriously? It's my least-favorite Radiohead album since the debut, but even though I agree that recent albums haven't had loads of time to change music, that seems an oversight. Does he list any They Might Be Giants albums, though? That's the first credibility test that comes to my mind. Their impact on the influx of nerds into successful rock music-making was huge, and little has changed popular music more than that.

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