From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V8 #138 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Monday, August 3 2009 Volume 08 : Number 138 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [loud-fans] greetings [Markwstaples@aol.com] Re: [loud-fans] greetings [Dan Sallitt ] Re: [loud-fans] greetings [Phil Fleming ] [loud-fans] song ID help? "To the Moon" [outbound-only email address ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 10:05:44 EDT From: Markwstaples@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] greetings In a message dated 8/2/2009 1:09:32 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, bernardmarx2@yahoo.com writes: Actually, I did the reverse. But I wouldn't say the culture shock of moving to the South was that great, though of course I'm in the metro Charlotte area (a locale swarming with Yankees). There are so many Buffalo people here that it's not funny. Now, I actually commute to work in South Carolina, and *that's* different. I don't know how I misinterpreted that--that you were from Charlotte but went to Buffalo. I lived in Charlotte for a while 10 years ago when I worked for Sprint. To me it reminded me of my hometown. It was like a big Greenville (SC's biggest city)--which is just like Charlotte--lots of transplants, Ryland homes, and sprawl. I read some years back that Charlotte is the worst place in the US to live if you are single, as it is not structurally set up for mingling well. Greenville has tried to reinvent itself by revitalizing its downtown, meaning gentrification (for blatant propaganda, see iwasblownaway.com--I swear people think that you can make poop taste good if you hire the right public relations department--my gauge is--NO GOOD BANDS COME HERE*, and we have several venues of varying sizes. End of story). - --Mark *One exception noted: Peter Murphy played at The Handlebar the other week here, and I actually felt sorry for him. I thought man, his career must've hit rock bottom to play here. The embarrassing ad I saw read "From Bauhaus to The Handlebar." I wanted to add "to the edge of a cliff." **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! 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But if you defer the songwriting until later, you get whatever benefits maturity has to offer, and you still get to work with the musical forms that you first loved. - Dan ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 09:38:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Phil Fleming Subject: Re: [loud-fans] greetings Wow... that makes it sound almost like Worcester, MA, where I'm originally from. They've been existing in the shadow of Boston since the dawn of time. And no really good bands are based there. If there are, they're usually just one member from the area. Worcester was one of those places that got hit pretty bad during the first Bush recession in '89. All the businesses went away, pretty high unemployment, and other than the Centrum, there was not much nightlife outside of one bar famous for hosting The Rolling Stones in 1980 (and they've been milking it ever since). These days, Worcester is in the middle of a gentrification process mostly focused on the downtown area. Office buildings are becoming condos, all remnants of Worcesters history is being erased from the downtown locations (a war memorial was taken out for a pretty brick walkway), they're mapping out a highway exit that will pour out directly into the downtown area (though I doubt they'll be able to make THAT work). The nightlife is slightly better (two dance clubs and three music venues to my recollection.... but the good shows are usually when Boston bands travel... otherwise, you get a LOT of 'tribute' acts.... and metal bands). Oddly enough, you walk three blocks away from the downtown area... and it pretty much looks the same as it did back in the 80s. Long story short, Worcester is like Boston on a diet. Bigger menu, fewer choices. - --- On Sun, 8/2/09, Markwstaples@aol.com wrote: > From: Markwstaples@aol.com > I don't know how I misinterpreted that--that you were from > Charlotte but > went to Buffalo. I lived in Charlotte for a while 10 > years ago when I > worked for Sprint. To me it reminded me of my > hometown. It was like a big > Greenville (SC's biggest city)--which is just like > Charlotte--lots of > transplants, Ryland homes, and sprawl. I read some > years back that Charlotte is the > worst place in the US to live if you are single, as it is > not structurally > set up for mingling well. Greenville has tried > to reinvent itself by > revitalizing its downtown, meaning gentrification > (for blatant propaganda, see > iwasblownaway.com--I swear people think that you can > make poop taste good > if you hire the right public relations department--my > gauge is--NO GOOD > BANDS COME HERE*, and we have several venues of > varying sizes. End of story). > > --Mark > > *One exception noted: Peter Murphy played at The Handlebar > the other week > here, and I actually felt sorry for him. I thought > man, his career must've > hit rock bottom to play here. The embarrassing ad I > saw read "From Bauhaus > to The Handlebar." I wanted to add "to the edge of a > cliff." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 12:57:17 -0400 From: outbound-only email address Subject: [loud-fans] song ID help? "To the Moon" on july 21 I downloaded an untagged mp3 from somewhere on the internets, maybe via the blog of someone on this list, but even if not, it sounds quite this-listy. Seems to be called "To the Moon" it might be track 3 of whatever album it's from, the chorus repeats "to the moon and back again" a bunch and the bridge wraps up with "I blame everyone." Google, allmusic, etc. not very helpful. Sound familiar to anyone? I really liked it! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 13:11:01 -0400 From: outbound-only email address Subject: [loud-fans] Re: song ID help? "To the Moon" found it -- Parallax Project, from Oblivious. Described badly below -- apparently I confused "bridge" with "chorus" somehow. On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 12:57 PM, outbound-only email address wrote: > on july 21 I downloaded an untagged mp3 from somewhere on the > internets, maybe via the blog of someone on this list, but even if > not, it sounds quite this-listy. Seems to be called "To the Moon" it > might be track 3 of whatever album it's from, the chorus repeats "to > the moon and back again" a bunch and the bridge wraps up with "I blame > everyone." Google, allmusic, etc. not very helpful. Sound familiar to > anyone? I really liked it! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 23:03:26 -0400 From: Jenny Grover Subject: Re: [loud-fans] greetings Erik Faleski wrote: > The problem with concerts is that they want to make me pick up my guitar and write songs. Doesn't sound like a problem to me. > Conventional wisdom has it that you're supposed to get that out of your system by 25-30 and then move on to serious things like an education and career. Is it possible to do things in reverse? I don't see why not. And who gives a flip about conventional wisdom? Do what makes you happy! Creative urges area a gift. Strip off the paper and use them! Jen ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V8 #138 *******************************