From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V7 #482 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Wednesday, August 20 2008 Volume 07 : Number 482 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [loud-fans] Was Jam, now SSWMCP [robert toren ] Re: [loud-fans] Was Jam, now SSWMCP [Tom Galczynski ] Re: [loud-fans] Was Jam, now SSWMCP [Richard Blatherwick ] Re: [loud-fans] Re:Jam for Beginners ["R. Kevin Doyle" ] Re: [loud-fans] Was Jam, now SSWMCP [Gil Ray ] [loud-fans] What happened? ["Tom Marcinko" ] Re: [loud-fans] What happened? ["Andrew Hamlin" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:36:29 -0700 (PDT) From: robert toren Subject: [loud-fans] Was Jam, now SSWMCP From: Gil Ray > So, yeah on the "pop music is a young person's game" > thing. > -d.w. >I think there is is huge difference in Scott's "pop" >and commercial "pop". His stuff is just too eclectic. >It is indeed great, but for a limited (yet passionate) >audience. Gil Is there a consensus here re the Scott Song With The Most Commercial Potential (SSWMCP)? I can't imagine any of them doing well on the radio, and the two that got 80s radio play and promotional videos - Erica's Word and The Real Sheila - flawless as they are, are neither of them songs I would include on a personal Best of Scott mix tape. Off the top of my head, I can imagine Blackness, Blackness - with a nice gothy, emo video - as a potential hit. Robert ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:26:28 -0500 From: Tom Galczynski Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Was Jam, now SSWMCP When I first heard it, "Jimmy Still Comes Around" seemed like a sure-fire radio hit. I also thought "Total Mass Destruction" and "(Kind of) In Love" from the latest had hit potential. Tom Galczynski tgalczynski@comcast.net--------------------------------------- Under certain circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer. -- Mark Twain robert toren wrote: From: Gil Ray So, yeah on the "pop music is a young person's game" thing. -d.w. I think there is is huge difference in Scott's "pop" and commercial "pop". His stuff is just too eclectic. It is indeed great, but for a limited (yet passionate) audience. Gil Is there a consensus here re the Scott Song With The Most Commercial Potential (SSWMCP)? I can't imagine any of them doing well on the radio, and the two that got 80s radio play and promotional videos - Erica's Word and The Real Sheila - flawless as they are, are neither of them songs I would include on a personal Best of Scott mix tape. Off the top of my head, I can imagine Blackness, Blackness - with a nice gothy, emo video - as a potential hit. Robert ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 09:41:25 -0700 From: "Tom Marcinko" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Was Jam, now SSWMCP "I don't know what the radio wants..." Which I guess is one of the reasons I don't listen to music stations much anymore. (That, and an aversion to being screamed at like I'm still a teenager.) I get most of my new music from places like Sixeyes and Aquarium Drunkard. (Is that OK, I wonder.) I dropped the former a note about Scott with a link to the LF site, but no action. Does Scott have the "1,000 True Fans" supposedly needed to make a living as an artist? http://www.kk.org/thetechnium/archives/2008/03/1000_true_fans.php Assuming that formulation is correct, of course. Scott's best songs, for whatever reason, seem to have a long fuse. It takes a while for them to kick in. I must have listened to "Motion of Ariel" ten times before I realized how heartbreakingly beautiful it is. On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 9:26 AM, Tom Galczynski wrote: > When I first heard it, "Jimmy Still Comes Around" seemed like a > sure-fire radio hit. I also thought "Total Mass Destruction" and "(Kind > of) In Love" from the latest had hit potential. > > Tom Galczynski > tgalczynski@comcast.net--------------------------------------- > Under certain circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied > even to prayer. -- Mark Twain > > robert toren wrote: > > From: Gil Ray > > So, yeah on the "pop music is a young person's game" > thing. > -d.w. > > I think there is is huge difference in Scott's "pop" > and commercial "pop". His stuff is just too eclectic. > It is indeed great, but for a limited (yet passionate) > audience. > > Gil > > Is there a consensus here re the Scott Song With The Most Commercial > Potential (SSWMCP)? I can't imagine any of them doing well on the radio, and > the two that got 80s radio play and promotional videos - Erica's Word and > The Real Sheila - flawless as they are, are neither of them songs I would > include on a personal Best of Scott mix tape. > Off the top of my head, I can imagine Blackness, Blackness - with a nice > gothy, emo video - as a potential hit. > > Robert ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:30:14 +0100 (BST) From: Richard Blatherwick Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Was Jam, now SSWMCP I've ofen sensed a bit of a conceptual shift between 'pop' of GT and 'rock' of LF, though were you to quiz me on exactly what I meant by these terms I'd be hard put to explain in a rationally consistent manner. Because of this, I find the 'sure-fire pop hits' that never were easier to spot in the GT canon. I guess it is also connected to the fact that more GT albums fit into the classic mould of what an album 'should' be like - Lolita Nation being the exception. PABARAT, IBC and DFD are all very much albums 1st and foremost, rather than being primarily about individual songs - if that makes any sense! I'm not claiming either to be superior to the other, there's just a different feel to them. So, going back to Robert's original Q, I'd say 24, I Turned Her Away, Bad Year at UCLA (there's something about that opening couplet that gets me every time), We Love You Carol & Alison, Erica's Word or Throwing the Election- with C & A being my favourite among those. Among LF stuff maybe Such Little Nonbelievers (maybe edit the first bit!), I'm not Really a Spring, Idiot Son, Last Honest Face or Give in World - with Idiot Son probably the most easily accessible. These are not my favourite Scott songs by any means, just a way to get folks to listen long enough that they might get to appreciate some of the really good stuff, which can take a bit more time as Tom mentioned before. And all this without mentioning Maybelline!! - --- Tom Marcinko wrote: > "I don't know what the radio wants..." > > Which I guess is one of the reasons I don't listen > to music stations much > anymore. (That, and an aversion to being screamed > at like I'm still a > teenager.) > > I get most of my new music from places like Sixeyes > and Aquarium Drunkard. > (Is that OK, I wonder.) I dropped the former a note > about Scott with a link > to the LF site, but no action. > > Does Scott have the "1,000 True Fans" supposedly > needed to make a living as > an artist? > > http://www.kk.org/thetechnium/archives/2008/03/1000_true_fans.php > > Assuming that formulation is correct, of course. > > Scott's best songs, for whatever reason, seem to > have a long fuse. It takes > a while for them to kick in. I must have listened > to "Motion of Ariel" ten > times before I realized how heartbreakingly > beautiful it is. > > > > On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 9:26 AM, Tom Galczynski > wrote: > > > When I first heard it, "Jimmy Still Comes Around" > seemed like a > > sure-fire radio hit. I also thought "Total Mass > Destruction" and "(Kind > > of) In Love" from the latest had hit potential. > > > > Tom Galczynski > > > tgalczynski@comcast.net--------------------------------------- > > Under certain circumstances, profanity provides a > relief denied > > even to prayer. -- Mark Twain > > > > robert toren wrote: > > > > From: Gil Ray > > > > So, yeah on the "pop music is a young person's > game" > > thing. > > -d.w. > > > > I think there is is huge difference in Scott's > "pop" > > and commercial "pop". His stuff is just too > eclectic. > > It is indeed great, but for a limited (yet > passionate) > > audience. > > > > Gil > > > > Is there a consensus here re the Scott Song With > The Most Commercial > > Potential (SSWMCP)? I can't imagine any of them > doing well on the radio, and > > the two that got 80s radio play and promotional > videos - Erica's Word and > > The Real Sheila - flawless as they are, are > neither of them songs I would > > include on a personal Best of Scott mix tape. > > Off the top of my head, I can imagine Blackness, > Blackness - with a nice > > gothy, emo video - as a potential hit. > > > > Robert > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:20:36 EDT From: Markwstaples@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Was Jam, now SSWMCP In a message dated 8/19/2008 10:51:34 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, angrylambie1@yahoo.com writes: Is there a consensus here re the Scott Song With The Most Commercial Potential (SSWMCP)? I can't imagine any of them doing well on the radio, and the two that got 80s radio play and promotional videos - Erica's Word and The Real Sheila - flawless as they are, are neither of them songs I would include on a personal Best of Scott mix tape. Off the top of my head, I can imagine Blackness, Blackness - with a nice gothy, emo video - as a potential hit. Robert When Joe ran the LF segment on NCW, he played "Way Too Helpful." But, his reason was he told me that he left the CDs I'd burned him at home, and so the station only had DFD in the library (ATTRACTIVE NUISANCE never made it in the station as a promo, but I guess it has to do with the financial situation of the label then), but I thought that was a good choice regardless. It never ceases to amaze me how money (or lack thereof) can profoundly affect outcomes in any situation. When I was at College of Charleston back in the stone age of pre-Windows--the only computer around was the one in the Registrar's office for scheduling--I was using The Readers' Guide to Periodical Literature and found that the school had a huge gap of materials around 1970 when the college was hurting financially. It made me have to work around the problem once doing a research paper--like checking with The Citadel library and the Baptist College library nearby. College kids these days have it so easy--no card catalogs to trudge through for hours. But, I digress, but what else is new? "Hyde Street Virgins" I thought would make a good single, but not in the age of grunge. Not pissed off enough. How 'bout "Nice When I Want Something"? - --Mark **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:22:27 EDT From: Markwstaples@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Re:Jam for Beginners In a message dated 8/18/2008 9:45:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, dwalker@freeke.org writes: from Grace Slick's Wikipedia page: > Slick's longevity in the music business helped her earn a rather > unusual distinction: the oldest female vocalist on a Billboard Hot > 100 number one single. "We Built This City" reached #1 onNovember > 16, 1985, less than three weeks after her 46th birthday. The > previous record was age 44 for Tina Turner, with 1984's number-one > hit, "What's Love Got To Do With It". Turner (who is, coincidentally > within a month of Slick's age) turned 45 two months after the song > topped the charts. Slick broke her own record in Summer 1987 at age > 47 when "Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now" topped the U.S. charts. Her > record stood for 12 years, but was ultimately broken by Cher, who > was 53 in 1999 when "Believe" hit number one. So, yeah on the "pop music is a young person's game" thing. - -d.w. Yes, but what do all these artists have in common? They all were successful in their youth and established themselves while young in the public's consciousness. Scott didn't do that. There was never an "I Got You Babe" or "White Rabbit" or "Proud Mary" (and fortunately no husband beating) for Scott. Yes, he had a couple of GT singles, but they didn't register outside of the underground--just with college DJs and music critics, but that isn't the huddled masses. That's the music literati. Lord, I hated "We Built This City"--the opening of that song sent me lunging for the tuner in my Rabbit back in the day. And, having to hear "Believe" constantly in the gay club scene is enough to make a gay man go straight. It's the equivalent of Patsy Cline's "I Fall to Pieces" in a truckstop's or Waffle House's jukebox. No, never mind--I shouldn't insult Patsy like that. - --Mark **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:46:18 -0700 From: "Tom Marcinko" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Re:Jam for Beginners Solomon Burke made a comeback, so you never can tell about age. Carlos Santana. Eric Clapton. These guys are statues on Easter Island, whatever else they are. On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 3:22 PM, wrote: > In a message dated 8/18/2008 9:45:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > dwalker@freeke.org writes: > > from Grace Slick's Wikipedia page: > > > Slick's longevity in the music business helped her earn a rather > > unusual distinction: the oldest female vocalist on a Billboard Hot > > 100 number one single. "We Built This City" reached #1 onNovember > > 16, 1985, less than three weeks after her 46th birthday. The > > previous record was age 44 for Tina Turner, with 1984's number-one > > hit, "What's Love Got To Do With It". Turner (who is, coincidentally > > within a month of Slick's age) turned 45 two months after the song > > topped the charts. Slick broke her own record in Summer 1987 at age > > 47 when "Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now" topped the U.S. charts. Her > > record stood for 12 years, but was ultimately broken by Cher, who > > was 53 in 1999 when "Believe" hit number one. > > So, yeah on the "pop music is a young person's game" thing. > > -d.w. > > > > > Yes, but what do all these artists have in common? They all were > successful > in their youth and established themselves while young in the public's > consciousness. Scott didn't do that. There was never an "I Got You Babe" > or > "White Rabbit" or "Proud Mary" (and fortunately no husband beating) for > Scott. > Yes, he had a couple of GT singles, but they didn't register outside of > the > underground--just with college DJs and music critics, but that isn't the > huddled > masses. That's the music literati. > > Lord, I hated "We Built This City"--the opening of that song sent me > lunging > for the tuner in my Rabbit back in the day. And, having to hear "Believe" > constantly in the gay club scene is enough to make a gay man go straight. > It's the equivalent of Patsy Cline's "I Fall to Pieces" in a truckstop's > or > Waffle House's jukebox. No, never mind--I shouldn't insult Patsy like > that. > > --Mark > > > > > > **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your > travel > deal here. > (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:51:09 -0400 From: "John Q. Cockring" Subject: [loud-fans] What happened? Hey gang -- The Music - What Happened series is soliciting suggestions for years to cover. 2 of my 3 requests have been fulfilled and I think I might have hit my quota for now. Surely someone else is reading this. An Olympic salute to all, - -Sarge ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:01:15 -1000 From: "R. Kevin Doyle" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Re:Jam for Beginners I can really think of only two singers who count as statues on Easter Island: http://us.ent2.yimg.com/musicfinder.yahoo.com/images/yahoo/epitaph/tomwaits/0502_tom_waits_b.jpg http://thetimetube.com/wp-content/uploads/Ugliest%20People/lyle_lovett.jpg Maybe Slim Jim Phantom, too: http://www.kamanmusic.com/img/ap06/30_lg.jpg On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Tom Marcinko wrote: > Solomon Burke made a comeback, so you never can tell about age. > Carlos Santana. > Eric Clapton. > These guys are statues on Easter Island, whatever else they are. > > On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 3:22 PM, wrote: > >> In a message dated 8/18/2008 9:45:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >> dwalker@freeke.org writes: >> >> from Grace Slick's Wikipedia page: >> >> > Slick's longevity in the music business helped her earn a rather >> > unusual distinction: the oldest female vocalist on a Billboard Hot >> > 100 number one single. "We Built This City" reached #1 onNovember >> > 16, 1985, less than three weeks after her 46th birthday. The >> > previous record was age 44 for Tina Turner, with 1984's number-one >> > hit, "What's Love Got To Do With It". Turner (who is, coincidentally >> > within a month of Slick's age) turned 45 two months after the song >> > topped the charts. Slick broke her own record in Summer 1987 at age >> > 47 when "Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now" topped the U.S. charts. Her >> > record stood for 12 years, but was ultimately broken by Cher, who >> > was 53 in 1999 when "Believe" hit number one. >> >> So, yeah on the "pop music is a young person's game" thing. >> >> -d.w. >> >> >> >> >> Yes, but what do all these artists have in common? They all were >> successful >> in their youth and established themselves while young in the public's >> consciousness. Scott didn't do that. There was never an "I Got You Babe" >> or >> "White Rabbit" or "Proud Mary" (and fortunately no husband beating) for >> Scott. >> Yes, he had a couple of GT singles, but they didn't register outside of >> the >> underground--just with college DJs and music critics, but that isn't the >> huddled >> masses. That's the music literati. >> >> Lord, I hated "We Built This City"--the opening of that song sent me >> lunging >> for the tuner in my Rabbit back in the day. And, having to hear "Believe" >> constantly in the gay club scene is enough to make a gay man go straight. >> It's the equivalent of Patsy Cline's "I Fall to Pieces" in a truckstop's >> or >> Waffle House's jukebox. No, never mind--I shouldn't insult Patsy like >> that. >> >> --Mark >> >> >> >> >> >> **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your >> travel >> deal here. >> (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:09:32 -0700 From: "Tom Marcinko" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Re:Jam for Beginners Pete Townshend? Ringo? On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 4:01 PM, R. Kevin Doyle wrote: > I can really think of only two singers who count as statues on Easter > Island: > > > http://us.ent2.yimg.com/musicfinder.yahoo.com/images/yahoo/epitaph/tomwaits/0502_tom_waits_b.jpg > > http://thetimetube.com/wp-content/uploads/Ugliest%20People/lyle_lovett.jpg > > Maybe Slim Jim Phantom, too: > > http://www.kamanmusic.com/img/ap06/30_lg.jpg > > On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Tom Marcinko > wrote: > > Solomon Burke made a comeback, so you never can tell about age. > > Carlos Santana. > > Eric Clapton. > > These guys are statues on Easter Island, whatever else they are. > > > > On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 3:22 PM, wrote: > > > >> In a message dated 8/18/2008 9:45:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > >> dwalker@freeke.org writes: > >> > >> from Grace Slick's Wikipedia page: > >> > >> > Slick's longevity in the music business helped her earn a rather > >> > unusual distinction: the oldest female vocalist on a Billboard Hot > >> > 100 number one single. "We Built This City" reached #1 onNovember > >> > 16, 1985, less than three weeks after her 46th birthday. The > >> > previous record was age 44 for Tina Turner, with 1984's number-one > >> > hit, "What's Love Got To Do With It". Turner (who is, coincidentally > >> > within a month of Slick's age) turned 45 two months after the song > >> > topped the charts. Slick broke her own record in Summer 1987 at age > >> > 47 when "Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now" topped the U.S. charts. Her > >> > record stood for 12 years, but was ultimately broken by Cher, who > >> > was 53 in 1999 when "Believe" hit number one. > >> > >> So, yeah on the "pop music is a young person's game" thing. > >> > >> -d.w. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Yes, but what do all these artists have in common? They all were > >> successful > >> in their youth and established themselves while young in the public's > >> consciousness. Scott didn't do that. There was never an "I Got You > Babe" > >> or > >> "White Rabbit" or "Proud Mary" (and fortunately no husband beating) for > >> Scott. > >> Yes, he had a couple of GT singles, but they didn't register outside of > >> the > >> underground--just with college DJs and music critics, but that isn't > the > >> huddled > >> masses. That's the music literati. > >> > >> Lord, I hated "We Built This City"--the opening of that song sent me > >> lunging > >> for the tuner in my Rabbit back in the day. And, having to hear > "Believe" > >> constantly in the gay club scene is enough to make a gay man go > straight. > >> It's the equivalent of Patsy Cline's "I Fall to Pieces" in a > truckstop's > >> or > >> Waffle House's jukebox. No, never mind--I shouldn't insult Patsy like > >> that. > >> > >> --Mark > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your > >> travel > >> deal here. > >> (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:23:13 -1000 From: "R. Kevin Doyle" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Re:Jam for Beginners We have enough for a supergroup now. On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 1:09 PM, Tom Marcinko wrote: > Pete Townshend? > Ringo? > > On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 4:01 PM, R. Kevin Doyle wrote: > >> I can really think of only two singers who count as statues on Easter >> Island: >> >> >> http://us.ent2.yimg.com/musicfinder.yahoo.com/images/yahoo/epitaph/tomwaits/0502_tom_waits_b.jpg >> >> http://thetimetube.com/wp-content/uploads/Ugliest%20People/lyle_lovett.jpg >> >> Maybe Slim Jim Phantom, too: >> >> http://www.kamanmusic.com/img/ap06/30_lg.jpg >> >> On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Tom Marcinko >> wrote: >> > Solomon Burke made a comeback, so you never can tell about age. >> > Carlos Santana. >> > Eric Clapton. >> > These guys are statues on Easter Island, whatever else they are. >> > >> > On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 3:22 PM, wrote: >> > >> >> In a message dated 8/18/2008 9:45:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >> >> dwalker@freeke.org writes: >> >> >> >> from Grace Slick's Wikipedia page: >> >> >> >> > Slick's longevity in the music business helped her earn a rather >> >> > unusual distinction: the oldest female vocalist on a Billboard Hot >> >> > 100 number one single. "We Built This City" reached #1 onNovember >> >> > 16, 1985, less than three weeks after her 46th birthday. The >> >> > previous record was age 44 for Tina Turner, with 1984's number-one >> >> > hit, "What's Love Got To Do With It". Turner (who is, coincidentally >> >> > within a month of Slick's age) turned 45 two months after the song >> >> > topped the charts. Slick broke her own record in Summer 1987 at age >> >> > 47 when "Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now" topped the U.S. charts. Her >> >> > record stood for 12 years, but was ultimately broken by Cher, who >> >> > was 53 in 1999 when "Believe" hit number one. >> >> >> >> So, yeah on the "pop music is a young person's game" thing. >> >> >> >> -d.w. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yes, but what do all these artists have in common? They all were >> >> successful >> >> in their youth and established themselves while young in the public's >> >> consciousness. Scott didn't do that. There was never an "I Got You >> Babe" >> >> or >> >> "White Rabbit" or "Proud Mary" (and fortunately no husband beating) for >> >> Scott. >> >> Yes, he had a couple of GT singles, but they didn't register outside of >> >> the >> >> underground--just with college DJs and music critics, but that isn't >> the >> >> huddled >> >> masses. That's the music literati. >> >> >> >> Lord, I hated "We Built This City"--the opening of that song sent me >> >> lunging >> >> for the tuner in my Rabbit back in the day. And, having to hear >> "Believe" >> >> constantly in the gay club scene is enough to make a gay man go >> straight. >> >> It's the equivalent of Patsy Cline's "I Fall to Pieces" in a >> truckstop's >> >> or >> >> Waffle House's jukebox. No, never mind--I shouldn't insult Patsy like >> >> that. >> >> >> >> --Mark >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your >> >> travel >> >> deal here. >> >> (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:54:36 -0700 From: "Steve Holtebeck" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] What happened? On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 3:51 PM, John Q. Cockring wrote: > Hey gang -- > > The Music - What Happened series is soliciting suggestions for years to > cover. > 2 of my 3 requests have been fulfilled and I think I might have hit my quota > for now. > Surely someone else is reading this. Reading this message or reading the series? I want 1965.. Scott hasn't done that year yet! I've been doing mixes of Scott's various years on muxtape (www.muxtape.com), but they got shut down by The Man yesterday, so I uploaded a bunch of his 1976 selections to a similar site called 8tracks.com that reportedly "plays by the rules" by streaming songs in random instead of a predetermined order and not allowing random access streaming. It's like last.fm radio, or an iPod shuffle with a ridiculously small capacity. The 1976 mix is linked from http://www.125records.com/loudfamily/mwh/1976.html. Scott gets positive points for including a Groovies song besides "Shake Some Action", but negative points for adding a superfluous g to their band name. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:26:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Gil Ray Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Was Jam, now SSWMCP - --- robert toren wrote: >> Off the top of my head, I can imagine Blackness, > Blackness - with a nice gothy, emo video - as a > potential hit. I agree about Blackness. When the band was working out the vocal harmonies, they originally had some very commercial, wonderful parts worked out. I was really disappointed when they either changed them or mixed them too low. I was hearing a "hit" (relative, of course), but some folks thought they weren't cool, or something.... My list of singles, based solely on commercial potential and 3 Sapporo's: Big Shot - Erica/Make Any Vows Sleepers - Crash Into June and Book Of Millionaires Lolita Nation - Dripping With Looks/Together Now Sleepers - If it had been released a couple of years earlier, I could see both of Donny's song having commercial potential. 2 Steps - Wyoming/Throwing The Election Sleepers - Delorean and Leilani Scott may have been going for a commercial ringer with Moody Girls, but I don't think it worked out particularly well. Gil ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:11:12 -0700 From: "Tom Marcinko" Subject: [loud-fans] What happened? Interesting list. I'm glad to see "Hand of Fate," which always sounded to me like the quintessential 70s Stones song but never seems to get the play you would expect. "Sara" is hard to ignore, though I'm a "One More Cup Of Coffee" man myself. I always associated those punk songs with '77, of course, but it's interesting to think of what was going on while I was visiting Philadelphia, being Brownian-moved through the crowds for the bicentennial. ABBA always seemed to get an unfair bad rap, IMO. I was on a long auto trip through Slovakia a few years ago (long story) and heard, for the first time ever, "The Day Before You Came." Great song, I thought. I wonder who that is? When the radio announced named the group, I was floored. Murray Head WAS Judas. He did an album, though? I had no idea. No, no, every note from "Station to Station" is essential! Bowie returns to rock! Did I mention that I thought disco sucked? Hard to believe I viewed it as a sterile dystopian threat to everything holy, but then again I was still listening to classic rock stations. Hard to believe Gerald Ford was ever President, too. And no Bruce Springsteen from '76. Huh. This was one of my more pleasant trips through the memory backbrain lately. Thanks, Scott! T ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:34:28 -0700 From: "Andrew Hamlin" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] What happened? On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 8:11 PM, Tom Marcinko wrote: > Interesting list. I'm glad to see "Hand of Fate," which always sounded to > me like the quintessential 70s Stones song but never seems to get the play > you would expect. Was it Paula Carino who called that one her favorite underrated Stones song? > No, no, every note from "Station to Station" is essential! Bowie returns > to rock! I've mentioned this before, but Scott's determination to make all his picks fit on one CD-ROM, regardless of what goes under the knife, strikes me as...just plain weird. Sort of like those tapes the JDC made where he'd chop songs off albums to make the "whole thing" fit on one side. And I don't care what the JDC (or Christgau) says, you can't LOVE IT TO DEATH without "Black Juju," Andy "This fight is way bigger than me. If this stands, this single-handedly undermines the entire civil judicial process in this country." - --"Girls Gone Wild" founder Joe Francis, regarding his legal action to rescind a settlement he now says was coerced out of him; from an article by Anthony McCartney at http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080820/ap_en_ce/girls_gone_wild_4 ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V7 #482 *******************************