From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V7 #479 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Sunday, August 17 2008 Volume 07 : Number 479 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [loud-fans] Re:Jam for Beginners [GlenSarvad@aol.com] Re: [loud-fans] Jam for beginners? ["outbound-only email address" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Jam for beginners? The critics generally regard All Mod Cons as the band's masterpeice, and I would agree that it is a damn fine album. My only quibble would be that I think that Setting Sons - the album between it and Sound Affects - is even more consistently brilliant (to my mind only let down by the cover of Heatwave that closes the album). Those 3 albums comprise their album output from the period a lot of people consider to be their prime - In The City & Modern World are much more of a punk and 60s r'n'b mix, while The Gift shows signs of Weller's increasing fascination with Motown and other sounds. They've all got good songs on, but to my mind contain a few more misses among their tracks. The other thing to remember about The Jam is that they were very much a singles band. Some of their best singles never made it onto albums, and so you might want to consider a compilation such as Snap in order to hear songs such as Going Underground and Strange Town. And to further complicate things some great songs weren't even the a-side of the single! When they were good they were that good! **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00030000000007 ) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 10:09:14 -0400 From: "outbound-only email address" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Jam for beginners? I presume I'm sorta expected to chime in here, but the problem is I think pretty much everything The Jam did is essential, so every time someone says "you can skip -----" I'm ready with the counterargument. In that spirit, I will mention that they were a *fantastic* live act, and the video compilation with bbc/old grey whistle test etc. performances is fab (and spans their entire career). If you can find a copy of the deluxe snap!, which restores the tracks omitted from the original cd issue and adds a bonus ep of very late material; you won't be sorry. The Jam at the BBC offers 2 or 3 discs (depending on which version you get) of excellent live performances. FInally, "EXtras" is The Jam's answer to the Beatles' "Past Masters" and has some spiffy b-sides and such elsewise hard to track down. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 11:44:47 EDT From: Markwstaples@aol.com Subject: [loud-fans] Let's Active/Pylon video in Winston-Salem Former digester and nice guy Atlantian Eric Drewes sent me the link for the Let's Active/Pylon videos he has up on YouTube. Read a book, don't be afraid, (Pylon for America's Libraries) - --Mark http://www.youtube.com/user/ErockDrewes **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00030000000007 ) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 12:16:20 EDT From: JRT456@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Jam for beginners? Hip-OSelect.com sells the two-disc, 38-track JAM AT THE BBC for $7.99. It's a good introduction, to the point that it makes the band sound more interesting than their studio albums. ************** Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00030000000007 ) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 14:38:39 EDT From: Markwstaples@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] re:windbreakers I had to order this compilation, as they had nothing else available on the Earshot's computer. - --Mark, just finishing burning BIG PLANS and DYNAMICO for a friend at work, who generally doesn't care for "'80s music" but liked BIG PLANS when I had it on the store's stereo system last week when we were cleaning up, which I take as a personal victory--his opinion has a little weight, as he is in his late 20s and graduated with a degree in music performance from Univ. of MI and did a local mega church's music for a year or so In a message dated 8/15/2008 9:25:41 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, sciguy@vex.net writes: I sampled their music on CD Baby, and Time Machine sounds like a pretty strong compilation. For me, it is reminiscent of The Northern Pikes, and The Grapes of Wrath (also good bands back in the 80s). Paul King On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 11:36 -0400, outbound-only email address wrote: > Mark, when I had a similar karmic need to finally hear The > Windbreakers, the good folks of Paisley Pop hooked me up with this > recent-ish and still in-print best-of, "Time Machine": > > http://pop07.paisleypop.com/catalog-18.htm > > Looks like you can also get this via CD Baby > http://cdbaby.com/cd/windbreakers > > or Not Lame > http://www.notlame.com/The_Windbreakers/Page_1/CDWIND7.html > > and probably other folks as well. > � **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00030000000007 ) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 15:23:12 EDT From: Markwstaples@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Re:Jam for Beginners In a message dated 8/16/2008 6:09:10 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, GlenSarvad@aol.com writes: I'd agree with Richard's comments pretty much down to the word. And combined with Michael's follow-on comments re: bonus tracks, I'd say that makes Setting Sons pretty much a slam dunk choice. It's neat to get both versions of Smithers Jones under one roof- I can think of few songs with two such excellent (and different) official versions by the same artist. I don't dislike SETTING SONS, but something feels off with it to me--I read earlier that it was a concept album having to do with three boyhood friends who, meeting after years apart, discover the different ways in which they've changed from one another (instead of a "chick flick" we have a "man album"?). It was supposed to be about male relationships, but that kind of got lost in the shuffle as they were pressed for time to record it, so only about half the songs have to do with the concept. Something I just read in a bio that seems so odd for such a luminary: as much as Weller is respected, in 1990 he couldn't get a record deal in the UK--he had alienated his original audience that much. I think I remember someone saying that Mr. Miller had the same problem around the same time, so he was in good company. - --Mark **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00030000000007 ) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 21:36:03 -0400 From: Jenny Grover Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Jam for beginners? outbound-only email address wrote: > In that spirit, I will mention that they were a *fantastic* live act, > and the video compilation with bbc/old grey whistle test etc. > performances is fab (and spans their entire career). I agree! That vid comp is awesome, and includes the "commercial" vids, as well as some interview footage. And, yeah, I'm not prepared to skip any Jam album, either, though I think Setting Sons may be the one I listen to the least, except for "Eton Rifles". Quite partial to Sound Affects and The Gift, but I like all their style references. Their cover of "Move On Up" is one of my very favorite things they did. I know some people here don't like horns, but I do. That aside, I think it's one of Paul's stronger vocal performances. 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