From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V7 #454 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Tuesday, July 22 2008 Volume 07 : Number 454 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [loud-fans] Dan in Real Life--NEXT!!! [PunkRok ] Re: [loud-fans] Dan in Real Life--NEXT!!! ["Andrew Hamlin" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Dan in Real Life--NEXT!!! hmmm if I were easily offended, this thread might bother me. My family is largely like that family, only mexican (or hispanic, or latino depending on which PC term we are tossing around this week). Every year we go to a kick ass cabin, play flag football, go fishing, whatever. We have about 20 people who show up, and it is blast. And there is usually some sort of drama (although I don't think my brother has lost his gf of the month to another family member . . . waiiiiittt not true, I think he actually dated my cousin's ex gf and brought her one year . . .). In any event, while I agree the movie was predicatable, it was still fairly enjoyable for me. In all honesty, how many movies are not predictable? and sometimes an easy to swallow flick is good to remind us what real life is all about - ayyy just my two pennies . . . . now Indiana Jones on the other hand - someone needs to take George Lucas' keys AWAY - no more driving flicks for you! I want my $12.50 back from the drive in theater. Bastard. :( On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 5:22 AM, wrote: > In a message dated 7/20/2008 2:53:08 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > rogwinston@gmail.com writes: > > Is this another passage > from a Coupland novel? > > > > I take this as the highest compliment, even if it wasn't meant as such. > If > he has influenced my writing style, and most artists are influenced by > their > idols, then I couldn't ask for a better influence. > > Thank you. > > I'm smiling like Dianne Wiest on Xanax. > > This made me think of the time I was playing Andrew Sandoval in the car > and > my brother said, "This sounds just like the Monkees!" > > Well, bro.... > > --Mark > > p.s. My point is that the car is simply too old. Too often in movies the > protagonist drives some charming old car that just isn't reality as far as > being feasible as a daily driver. And, since this is supposed to be "real > life" > and all.... Is your Impala your daily driver? Ten years ago I sold my > (second) '65 Beetle (first one was in h.s.) because it was putting me in > the > poorhouse as my daily driver with all its mechanical failures. I didn't > have a > movie producer footing the bill for repairs. > > > > > > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:28:15 -0700 From: "Andrew Hamlin" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Dan in Real Life--NEXT!!! > Hey, we're not all Andy Hamlin here. Some of us do see some > mainstream flicks occasionally. Hey, I went and saw MEET DAVE last week! And promptly regretted it (promptly as in about three reels into the proceedings), but went nonetheless. Had a much better time at LOVE & HONOR, though... Andy "Directors like Satyajit Ray, Rossellini, Bresson, Buquel, Forman, Scorsese, and Spike Lee have used non-professional actors precisely in order that the people we see on the screen may be scarcely more explained than reality itself. Professionals, except for the greatest, usually play not just the necessary role, but an explanation of the role." - --John Berger ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:50:05 -0700 (PDT) From: "Joseph M. Mallon" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Dan in Real Life--NEXT!!! On Mon, 21 Jul 2008, PunkRok wrote: > In any event, while I agree the movie was predicatable, it was still fairly > enjoyable for me. In all honesty, how many movies are not predictable? and > sometimes an easy to swallow flick is good to remind us what real life is > all about - I enjoyed it, too. Nothing wrong with good entertainment. THE DARK KNIGHT, on the other hand, was gruesome, like SEVEN if Brad Pitt were Batman. An epic of decay, and not for the easily dismayed or depressed. Joe Mallon jmmallon@joescafe.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:19:11 -0700 From: "Andrew Hamlin" Subject: [loud-fans] At the half, so sayeth the Voice From The Cloud http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080721/ap_en_mu/music_rock_albums_with_soul;_ylt=AutDsQ0FcDzMEYSirmXRk0VxFb8C I haven't heard any of the mentioned albums, actually, and only recall one or two getting onlist mention. But it's nice to know what the Dominant Paradigm thinks. Your thoughts? Andy "The worm artist out of soil, by passage of himself constructing. Castles of metaphor!" - --Denise Levertov, from "The Earth Worm" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:07:22 -0700 From: "Andrew Hamlin" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Dan in Real Life--NEXT!!! > THE DARK KNIGHT, on the other hand, was gruesome, like SEVEN if Brad Pitt > were Batman. An epic of decay, and not for the easily dismayed or > depressed. Yes, apparently some parents aren't happy: http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2008-07-20-dark-knight-no-kids_N.htm?csp=34 Based on what I know about the film, I would rate it an R, not a PG-13. But this is a Mainstream Comic Book movie, and an R would tend to filter out the kids who form the backbone of its constituency. With a 94% on the Tomatometer and an 82 (out of a possible 100 score) at Metacritic, pic appears to have scribes well in hand, although the few naysayers include a few voices I follow: http://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/movies/reviews/bal-li.knight17jul17,0,7616380.story http://www.salon.com/ent/movies/review/2008/07/17/dark_knight/ http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/cinema/2008/07/21/080721crci_cinema_denby http://moviesintofilm.com/dark_knight.htm ...and Frank Miller gets no credit whatsoever (which, judging by his views on the war, I don't mind as much as I thought I would), Andy "Wurm Online has launched a brand new world; an unspoilt, untouched land of vast mountains and lakes ready for new and experienced players of this unique game. A new land is just that. There are no plans, no roads, no maps, no towns, villages, no people and no story. This is a wild place of forests, lakes, seas, mountains and surprises!" - --from http://www.wurmonline.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:41:17 -1000 From: "R. Kevin Doyle" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Dan in Real Life--NEXT!!! They're totally marketing Dark Knight at kids, too. For example, Lucky Charms cereal's prize is currently cutesy Heath Ledger Joker and Christian Bale Batman figures. Sort of like "Hello Kitty" versions of the characters. Of course, seen through the eyes of marketing, this is the way to make the maximum amount of money, but it is kind of shitty to get the 6-13 set excited about a movie that's not really appropriate for them. That said, the movie is awesome. On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Andrew Hamlin wrote: >> THE DARK KNIGHT, on the other hand, was gruesome, like SEVEN if Brad Pitt >> were Batman. An epic of decay, and not for the easily dismayed or >> depressed. > > Yes, apparently some parents aren't happy: > > http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2008-07-20-dark-knight-no-kids_N.htm?csp=34 > > Based on what I know about the film, I would rate it an R, not a > PG-13. But this is a Mainstream Comic Book movie, and an R would tend > to filter out the kids who form the backbone of its constituency. > > With a 94% on the Tomatometer and an 82 (out of a possible 100 score) > at Metacritic, pic appears to have scribes well in hand, although the > few naysayers include a few voices I follow: > > http://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/movies/reviews/bal-li.knight17jul17,0,7616380.story > > http://www.salon.com/ent/movies/review/2008/07/17/dark_knight/ > > http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/cinema/2008/07/21/080721crci_cinema_denby > > http://moviesintofilm.com/dark_knight.htm > > ...and Frank Miller gets no credit whatsoever (which, judging by his > views on the war, I don't mind as much as I thought I would), > > Andy > > > "Wurm Online has launched a brand new world; an unspoilt, untouched > land of vast mountains and lakes ready for new and experienced players > of this unique game. A new land is just that. There are no plans, no > roads, no maps, no towns, villages, no people and no story. This is a > wild place of forests, lakes, seas, mountains and surprises!" > > --from http://www.wurmonline.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 00:07:37 EDT From: Markwstaples@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Dan in Real Life--NEXT!!! **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 00:48:14 EDT From: Markwstaples@aol.com Subject: [loud-fans] thread maker wants thread to be as non-threatening as the Carell flick Punkrok says: hmmm if I were easily offended, this thread might bother me. My family is largely like that family, only mexican (or hispanic, or latino depending on which PC term we are tossing around this week). Every year we go to a kick ass cabin, play flag football, go fishing, whatever. We have about 20 people who show up, and it is blast. I'm all for stuff like that--but it was all just too W.A.S.P.Y affluent perfect, and it made me think of similar movies from 15-25 years ago, with unrealistic demography. It's the same ugh feeling I get when I see an A list actor really blow a Southern accent--producing some bad homogenous generic c oncoction. My dialect is nothing like my father, who grew up in Virginia during the school year and North Carolina during the summer, or my mother, who grew up in Alabama and Tennessee. This not taking in the influx of people over the past twenty years affecting my speech pattern, but I'm roaming off topic. To finish this train of thought, the only actor I've ever seen get a Southern accent right is Tom Hanks in Forrest Gump. My mom's family moved to Tennessee from Alabama, and that Alabama accent of his is on the button. Anyway, it's not all sour grapes. I really enjoyed YEAR OF THE DOG. Molly Shannon was fantastic in that role. I rented that the same time as DIRL. Also, I think it's cool that you are Latino. Has there ever been an African-American Loudfan? I know our women on here as a rule are pretty atypical, and I think that rocks. Scott's not just for bearded chunky white guys anymore! And, I met a guy tonight while delivering pizza who is restoring a '64 Impala convertible, Rog! That car is a beauty. It's beautiful rear end poking out from under the tarp--fabuloso. It IS the American '60s to me. Though most would say Mustang, I say Impala. - --Mark **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V7 #454 *******************************