From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V7 #445 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Sunday, July 13 2008 Volume 07 : Number 445 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [loud-fans] And I have a follow-up... ["Tom Marcinko" Subject: [loud-fans] And I have a follow-up... The question about Gram Parsons raises, for me, the question: What can you recommend by the prolific Ryan Adams? I found a great concert with the Cardinals on XM, entitled "The Loft Sessions," which I downloaded from (I think) Aquarium Drunkard. They sound like the Dead would sound if I liked the Dead a whole lot more than I actually do. (Not that I dislike them, I just never got into them the way some people have, though I've been mistaken for a Deadhead once or twice before. Must be the touch of gray...) Tom ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 08:10:09 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: treesprite@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [loud-fans] And I have a follow-up... >The question about Gram Parsons raises, for me, the question: What can you >recommend by the prolific Ryan Adams? It took me a long time to come around to Adams -- my wife's a big fan, so I was finally able to dig through everything and figure it all out! His debut solo album, Heartbreaker, is fantastic -- easily his best. His most recent album, Easy Tiger, is the second best. Cold Roses is a surprisingly good double album that features him and the Cardinals at their Dead-iest! >I found a great concert with the Cardinals on XM, entitled "The Loft >Sessions," which I downloaded from (I think) Aquarium Drunkard. They sound >like the Dead would sound if I liked the Dead a whole lot more than I >actually do. The Cardinals have turned into a pretty great band -- Adams' stuff leans towards all sounding the same when he's working in the weepy country mode, but the Cardinals manage to elevate the lesser material. I saw Adams play at SXSW years ago (before Heartbreaker, I think) -- he was taking part in a "songwriters circle" with Jim Lauderdale and a couple other guys. The room was tiny and dangerously packed with screaming Adams fans. After the performance the artists had to fight their way from the stage to the bar, and Adams accidentally bumped into me on his way. He said, "oops, sorry" and a nearly hysterical girl right behind me grabbed my arm and said, "oh my god -- you KNOW him?!" B ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 10:46:14 -0300 From: "Rick Butland" Subject: RE: [loud-fans] And I have a follow-up... I've always preferred Ryan's work with Whiskeytown to his solo work. The boy needs an editor more than anybody I know. There are probably several great records spread out across his solo albums but I've never taken the time to assemble them. As for Whiskeytown, Strangers Almanac and Faithless Street have both been reissued with bonus tracks. The latter is my favorite since, as is often the case, it was my intro to them. And jumping late into the Gram parsons discussion, there are promo copies of the Return Of The Grievous Angel tribute LP out there that come with a bonus disc of Gram's versions of the covered songs in the same running order as the trib. The trib itself is one of the best of that genre, including Whiskeytown's killer version of "A Song For You" and is worth picking up. I must go dig my copy out... Best, Rick > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-loud-fans@smoe.org [mailto:owner-loud-fans@smoe.org] On Behalf > Of Tom Marcinko > Sent: July 12, 2008 6:09 AM > To: loud-fans@smoe.org > Subject: [loud-fans] And I have a follow-up... > > The question about Gram Parsons raises, for me, the question: What can > you > recommend by the prolific Ryan Adams? > > I found a great concert with the Cardinals on XM, entitled "The Loft > Sessions," which I downloaded from (I think) Aquarium Drunkard. They > sound > like the Dead would sound if I liked the Dead a whole lot more than I > actually do. > > (Not that I dislike them, I just never got into them the way some people > have, though I've been mistaken for a Deadhead once or twice before. Must > be the touch of gray...) > > Tom ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 12:06:44 EDT From: LeftyZ@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Symphonic Scott In a message dated 7/11/2008 2:02:55 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, andrew.hamlin@gmail.com writes: Something else strange for a Scottlist--Rundgren's new one, no discussion at all... Is it out? I saw the show last weekend in Agoura (Los Angeles). He played the entire new album, 13 songs in a row. It was VERY well received, in concept and execution (i.e., the audience was receptive to him doing the entire thing consecutively, without anyone [essentially] having heard a note of it -- and very into the songs)....but then again, Todd fans are awfully loyal. The new stuff sounded great to me. Some RA, some Oops, Wrong Planet, some Faithful. I'm really looking forward to the album. Left **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 20:29:54 -0400 From: Michael Zwirn Subject: [loud-fans] NYT Measure for Measure Blogs I've been enjoying the New York Times series of blogs on the songwriting process at http://measureformeasure.blogs.nytimes.com Songwriters posting thus far included Peter Holsapple, Suzanne Vega, Rosanne Cash, etc., many of whom share some nice insights on developing some of their better-known songs. It's an impressive list of songwriters and there is a lot of wit and understated humor on the songwriting process. I could think of some other great names to include whose songwriting I respect, however - maybe Neil Finn, Tori Amos, Kate Jacobs, Amy Rigby, that guy from the Loud Family, whatshisname... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 18:41:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Gil Ray Subject: Re: [loud-fans] NYT Measure for Measure Blogs I agree Michael, though I've mainly been following Peter Holsapple's. I highly recommend that any fan of his or the dBs check out his demo version of Molly Says. Stunning. (you can play it from his 2nd post) Gil - --- Michael Zwirn wrote: > I've been enjoying the New York Times series of > blogs on the > songwriting process at > http://measureformeasure.blogs.nytimes.com > > Songwriters posting thus far included Peter > Holsapple, Suzanne Vega, > Rosanne Cash, etc., many of whom share some nice > insights on > developing some of their better-known songs. It's an > impressive list > of songwriters and there is a lot of wit and > understated humor on the > songwriting process. I could think of some other > great names to > include whose songwriting I respect, however - maybe > Neil Finn, Tori > Amos, Kate Jacobs, Amy Rigby, that guy from the Loud > Family, > whatshisname... ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V7 #445 *******************************