From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V7 #376 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Tuesday, April 15 2008 Volume 07 : Number 376 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [loud-fans] tax day radio ["outbound-only email address" ] [loud-fans] R.E.M. [Markwstaples@aol.com] Re: [loud-fans] R.E.M. [Jenny Grover ] Re: [loud-fans] R.E.M. [Miles Goosens ] Re: [loud-fans] R.E.M. ["Tim Walters" ] Re: [loud-fans] R.E.M. [Jenny Grover ] Re: [loud-fans] R.E.M. ["R. Kevin Doyle" ] Re: [loud-fans] R.E.M. [Gil Ray ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 08:16:51 -0400 From: "outbound-only email address" Subject: [loud-fans] tax day radio I'll be playing some songs on WMBR in Cambridge (and on the internets) tomorrow morning. Details here: http://www.ihatethesoundofguitars.com/content/radio/i-want-to-bite-that-hand-so-badly/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 11:02:41 -0400 From: "Stewart Mason" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] tax day radio - ----- Original Message ----- From: "outbound-only email address" To: Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 8:16 AM Subject: [loud-fans] tax day radio > I'll be playing some songs on WMBR in Cambridge (and on the > internets) > tomorrow morning. > Details here: > http://www.ihatethesoundofguitars.com/content/radio/i-want-to-bite-that-hand-so-badly/ Coincidentally, Charity and I will be doing the same show on Friday between 8:30 and 9:30. S ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:55:27 EDT From: Markwstaples@aol.com Subject: [loud-fans] R.E.M. Not much talk of the new R.E.M.. I'm really liking "Man-Sized Wreath" and "Supernatural Superserious." ACCELERATE is no RECKONING or AUTOMATIC FOR THE PEOPLE, but at least there are whiffs of their old essence there. People tend to think of drummers as interchangeable, but I don't (imagine LN or BSC WITHOUT Gil), and I wonder how their catalog would have unfolded had he remained. I miss seeing Berry, Buck, Mills and Stipe in the credits still to this day. Seems like one is missing to me (and I feel the same way about Ricky Wilson). Went through my box of VHS tapes and was looking at the cover of R.E.M. SUCCUMBS--trademark vintage R.E.M. color combinations (green with fuschia) in the box's artwork, Michael Stipe looks so young in a natty thrift store cotton sweater and wool cap (over actual hair!), Peter Buck in his inevitable white cotton dress shirt with vest (like Charlie Brown's zig-zag shirt--must've had a closet full of 'em) and Mike Mills' old eyeglasses--round tortoise shells were the frame of choice for Athens band members in that era (see also members of The Side Effects, Dreams So Real, probably more if I thought about it). And, I miss the I.R.S. logo guy. Oh well, you can't go home again (except for maybe me, since now I pay the mortgage on the house I was born and grew up in--strange), - --Mark From "More Songs About Space and Sex" article, Stomp and Stammer, March: Interviewer Tom Roche: The thing about B's songs from any year is that they are timeless. They hold up very well because each one is in the past and the future simultaneously...and oddly not in the present. Keith Strickland: I totally agree, totally agree. When we write we just get into our own little universe, and it IS timeless. I just don't think of our songs as...well we are often referred to as "the '80s party band" but... Roche: Groan... Strickland: Those albums and those songs do not exemplify the '80s the way many groups from that decade do. It is something else. We have always just done our own thing. **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolcmp00300000002850) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:25:53 -0400 From: Jenny Grover Subject: Re: [loud-fans] R.E.M. Markwstaples@aol.com wrote: > > Went through my box of VHS tapes and was looking at the cover of R.E.M. > SUCCUMBS-- Okay, I had to laugh, because when I first saw this coming up in the next line, my brain read it as "VHS tapes... CRUMBS...", and since I am in the midst of going through all my old VHS tapes (yes, this will take approximately an eternity), replacing some with commercial DVDs, and transferring the rest (things that never made it to DVD, are out of print on DVD, or are TV specials and such) to homemade DVDs, this interpretation seems all too apt. I'm amazed at just how poorly VHS "keeps". Much less stable than audio tape. Jen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:21:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: [loud-fans] R.E.M. Mark: >Not much talk of the new R.E.M.. I'm really liking "Man-Sized Wreath" and >"Supernatural Superserious." ACCELERATE is no RECKONING or AUTOMATIC FOR THE >PEOPLE, A minority of us would be saying "thank God!" on that last one. OK, well, maybe just me. I can't look at AFTP as the beginning of the end, since I liked MONSTER and loved NEW ADVENTURES IN HI-FI, but it was the first REM album that I didn't find to my liking. GREEN had been the only other mixed bag before it, but I really did enjoy a whole lot of it. I haven't bought the new one. Haven't been in a position to take advantage of the streamed version out there and try before I buy. I heard the single and thought it was ok, but it didn't make me want to run right out 'n' get one. >Oh well, you can't go home again (except for maybe me, since now I pay the >mortgage on the house I was born and grew up in--strange That's one long mortgage. OK, I'm being a smart aleck; I'm sure there's a subsequent mortgage involved there. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:30:06 -0700 (PDT) From: "Tim Walters" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] R.E.M. Miles re AUTOMATIC FOR THE PEOPLE: > A minority of us would be saying "thank God!" on that last one. OK, well, > maybe just me. Not just you. Every once in a while I think "this is supposed to be their masterpiece, it's got to be better than I remember," and every time I can't even make it all the way through. - -- Tim Walters | http://doubtfulpalace.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 20:02:06 -0400 From: Jenny Grover Subject: Re: [loud-fans] R.E.M. Miles Goosens wrote: > I heard the single and thought it was ok, but it didn't make me want to run right out 'n' get one. > Don't judge by the single. It's okay, but there are several songs I like much better. Very soon Tone and Groove will be featuring a several pronged antler rack of a review (hopefully it will be up tomorrow or Wed. night), so you'll get to see how at least three of us Loud-fans feel about it and its attendant DVD/bonus tracks and booklet, in detail. Jen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:18:58 -1000 From: "R. Kevin Doyle" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] R.E.M. The only two REM albums that really didn't do it for me were 'Document' and 'Around The Sun.' I resisted even purchasing "ATS" for about a year and a half and finally bought it on sale just for the sake of being a completist. 'Accelerate' isn't necessarily the 100% blow your doors off return to form that its been hyped as, but it is a very good record with a number of tracks that are excellent. "Man Shaped Wreath," "Living Well's the Best Revenge" and the title track are all enjoyable upon first listen and a number of the song grow on you with time. Indeed, as with 'Drive' and 'E-Bow The Letter," it took me about a month of living with "Supernatural Superserious" before I recognized that its actually a very good tune. It is worth noting that the two major "touring members" of R.E.M. - Bill Rieflin on drums and Scott McCaughey on guitars and other instruments - were instrumental (ha) in creating the music for this album. I'm not certain about their involvement in the last three albums, but I feel that their contribution to "Accelerate" is significant. Anyhow, I am not sure this will make my top five of the year list, but it will probably make my top twenty, if you know what I mean. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:50:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Gil Ray Subject: Re: [loud-fans] R.E.M. This sounds exciting, Jen! Gil - --- Jenny Grover wrote: > Very soon Tone and Groove will be featuring a > several pronged antler > rack of a review (hopefully it will be up tomorrow > or Wed. night), so > you'll get to see how at least three of us Loud-fans > feel about it and > its attendant DVD/bonus tracks and booklet, in > detail. > > Jen ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V7 #376 *******************************