From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V7 #229 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Tuesday, October 2 2007 Volume 07 : Number 229 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [loud-fans] Radiohead's business model ["Dave Walker" ] Re: [loud-fans] Summer of 1973 ["Paul King" ] [loud-fans] Bye Bye Scottbirds [Gil Ray ] Re: [loud-fans] Radiohead's business model ["Michael Mitton" Subject: [loud-fans] Radiohead's business model Any opinion on what Radiohead's doing with the next album? (in brief: self-releasing, downloads are priced flexibly based on whatever listeners are willing to pay, physical release will be a super-deluxo box with lots of extra goodies, like Prince they've cut the Big 4 completely out of the equation.) Coverage here: http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,1666973,00.html -d.w. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 19:00:44 -0700 (PDT) From: zoom@muppetlabs.com Subject: [loud-fans] Summer of 1973 >Holy cow! What _isn't_ on YouTube? The better part of Michael Snow's "Wavelength"; ditto Todd Haynes' "Superstar"; the prehistoric video for "Life" by Sly and the Family Stone; Budd Dwyer's head exploding; and anything from the Go-Go's tape. Yes, *that* Go-Go's tape. Granted, people might find my tastes a tad unconventional, Andy "These heroes are dead. They died for libertythey died for us. They are at rest. They sleep in the land they made free, under the flag they rendered stainless, under the solemn pines, the sad hemlocks, the tearful willows, the embracing vines. They sleep beneath the shadows of the clouds, careless alike of sunshine or storm, each in the windowless palace of rest. Earth may run red with other warsthey are at peace. In the midst of battles, in the roar of conflict, they found the serenity of death." - --Robert Green Ingersoll, from "Memorial Day Vision" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 23:00:53 -0400 From: "Paul King" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Summer of 1973 > >Holy cow! What _isn't_ on YouTube? > > The better part of Michael Snow's "Wavelength"; ditto Todd Haynes' > "Superstar"; the prehistoric video for "Life" by Sly and the Family Stone; > Budd Dwyer's head exploding; and anything from the Go-Go's tape. > > Yes, *that* Go-Go's tape. Now, what tape would that be? The Tape of Only Belinda? Sorry, just had to get that one in ... :-) Paul > > Granted, people might find my tastes a tad unconventional, > > Andy > > > "These heroes are dead. They died for liberty they died for us. They are > at rest. They sleep in the land they made free, under the flag they > rendered stainless, under the solemn pines, the sad hemlocks, the tearful > willows, the embracing vines. They sleep beneath the shadows of the > clouds, careless alike of sunshine or storm, each in the windowless palace > of rest. Earth may run red with other wars they are at peace. In the midst > of battles, in the roar of conflict, they found the serenity of death." > > --Robert Green Ingersoll, from "Memorial Day Vision" > > __________ NOD32 2563 (20071001) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 23:00:53 -0400 From: "Paul King" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Summer of 1973 > >> At first I thought you were talking about that Flying Machine song "Smile > >> a Little Smile for Me," which I love. - Dan > > > > And that is one that I don't recall. > > Here you go: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR3xcZ-osqE Not bad -- seems like it's in a similar league. Thanks for both links! Paul > > - Dan > > __________ NOD32 2561 (20071001) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 20:07:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Gil Ray Subject: [loud-fans] Bye Bye Scottbirds What a weekend! Congrats to Bradley & Gina on their wedding, and for having a very unique wedding that was very, vry cool. The post-wedding party at the Starry Plough ended up being one of the best shows I've seen in a long time. Big props to Bradley for once again, proving he is the hardest working man in show biz. He put a great show together featuring an excellent Family Arsenal (very mid-west power pop/rock), Statuesque, featuring 2 members of Bye Bye Blackbirds, ME, and of course the best band in the Bay Area - the Bye Bye Blackbirds. I say this every time i see them, but they just keep getting better and better and better! Scott did 3 songs with them as the backing band; Rocks Off, Mavis, and a scorching version of Sleeping Through Heaven. I don't recall ever seeing that song performed live and it was awesome! It devastated me. It's real easy for me to get emotional and I really had to work hard to keep from completely losing it, but the tears were flowing hard. Scott just commanded the stage throughout all of this. His performance was electrifying. My goodness... it's still so emotional! And I'm sober right now! Hearing the GT song in particular, took me right back to the mid-80's and our fall tours. Even the fact that it is now autumn added more feelings to all of it. It was a glorious feeling. I am so lucky to have played with Scott all those years. Stacey and I both agreed that the Bye Bye Blackbirds are a perfect backing band for him. They possess a great balance of power and finesse and youthful enthusiasm that worked perfectly. the evening ended with a grand version of All The Young Dudes, which Scott sang. It was a good night. Gil ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 23:01:04 -0700 From: "Michael Mitton" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Radiohead's business model There's a well-known anecdote in behavioral economics about this man in D.C. who brought bagels and muffins to work every day. He would just set them out and leave a basket there for people to put in money. At the time, there weren't really any cafes/caterers who would take daily deliveries like that, and he thought he could make a business out of it. So, he quit his job and started delivering baked goods to a lot of offices in the area. To collect the money, he put a sign asking for a 2 dollar payment that would go into a locked piggy bank. He didn't do well--IIRC, he only got about 50% payment on average. Then, he decided to take away the sign asking for 2 dollars, and just left the basket there for people to contribute as they saw fit. His revenues shot up dramatically. [Behavioral economists have repeated this kind of thing in experimental settings.] I'm really excited to see how Radiohead's experiment works, and god bless them for using their fame to try something new. Failure shouldn't be measured by how many people choose to pay less than the price of downloading a Radiohead album from Amazon. Success should be measured by how many people who would have paid Amazon to download the album freely choose to contribute the Amazon price. mm On 10/1/07, Dave Walker wrote: > Any opinion on what Radiohead's doing with the next album? > (in brief: self-releasing, downloads are priced flexibly based on whatever > listeners are willing to pay, physical release will be a super-deluxo box > with lots of extra goodies, like Prince they've cut the Big 4 completely out > of the equation.) > > Coverage here: > > http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,1666973,00.html > > -d.w. ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V7 #229 *******************************