From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V7 #96 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Thursday, April 19 2007 Volume 07 : Number 096 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [loud-fans] little technical blurb I've never seen before ["outbound-] Re: [loud-fans] little technical blurb I've never seen before ["Andrew Ha] Re: [loud-fans] little technical blurb I've never seen before ["Joseph M.] Re: [loud-fans] little technical blurb I've never seen before [zoom@muppe] Re: [loud-fans] little technical blurb I've never seen before ["Joseph M.] Re: [loud-fans] little technical blurb I've never seen before [zoom@muppe] Re: [loud-fans] little technical blurb I've never seen before [2fs Subject: Re: [loud-fans] little technical blurb I've never seen before This description is probably as good as any: http://www.oasiscd.com/audioextras/glasscutting.asp My personal (slightly informed) opinion: snake oil, like drawing on the outside of your CD to make it sound better. On the other hand, compared to what you spend for pressing the CD in the first place, it's a drop in the bucket. So if it *might* make your disc less prone to errors in a really old CD player without the latest error-correction chipware, why not? I think we paid extra to do this on the Feckless Beast disc (it was only an extra $50 back then). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 10:13:30 -0700 From: "Andrew Hamlin" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] little technical blurb I've never seen before On a related note: who's experimented with SACD vs. regular CD? Opinions? CDs weren't supposed to skip at all...remember that? Andy Belgrade horses to be drugged for Stones gig By Ljilja Cvekic 2 hours, 34 minutes ago BELGRADE (Reuters) - A plan to sedate more than 300 horses stabled at Belgrade's racecourse to keep them calm during a Rolling Stones concert there has enraged Serb animal lovers who are lobbying to have the gig moved to another venue. The concert is expected to draw more than 100,000 people to the Hippodrome, Belgrade's largest fenced space. The horses will be only a few meters from the stage. "Horses differ, the same as people. Some are more nervous, more skittish," said hostler Jovanka Prelic. "If they get too nervous or start to panic during the concert, they'll get sedatives." Serbia's biggest animal protection society, ORCA, says holding the concert there would be extremely harmful to the horses, and sedating them is not the answer. "Research has shown that noise and vibrations are the strongest causes of stress to animals," Elvir Burazerovic, head of ORCA, told Reuters. "Surely our big city has enough open spaces where even 150,000 people can fit in. We think the Hippodrome should be left to horses," he said. The sedative would be diazepam. In Serbia it trades under the name Bensedin, a very popular drug during the 78 days of NATO air strikes in 1999, when much of Belgrade's adult population was on tranquilizers. ORCA said that if it failed to convince the organizers to change the concert venue, it would contact the Rolling Stones directly and ask them to use their influence. "I believe we'll succeed since such a reputable band will not allow such a stain on its record," Burazerovic said. The band have never played in Serbia. A 2003 concert was cancelled due to the assassination of then Prime Minister Zoran Djindjic, and a 2006 date scrapped after guitarist Keith Richards suffered a head injury while on vacation. This year's concert is scheduled for July 14. [--from http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070418/music_nm/serbia_stones_dc ] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 11:52:20 -0700 (PDT) From: "Joseph M. Mallon" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] little technical blurb I've never seen before On Wed, 18 Apr 2007, Andrew Hamlin wrote: > On a related note: who's experimented with SACD vs. regular CD? Opinions? I've got only DARK SIDE OF THE MOON on SACD, but there's a noticable difference in the multi-channel mix. The regular CD sounds "flatter". I liked it enough to order the Genesis reissues on import because Warners/Rhino won't make SACDs, but EMI, the band's UK label, will. Joe Mallon jmmallon@joescafe.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:00:00 -0700 (PDT) From: zoom@muppetlabs.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] little technical blurb I've never seen before > I've got only DARK SIDE OF THE MOON on SACD, but there's a noticable difference in the multi-channel mix. The regular CD sounds "flatter". I > liked it enough to order the Genesis reissues on import because > Warners/Rhino won't make SACDs, but EMI, the band's UK label, will. Wow. End-of-Gabriel, early-Collins, up-to-and-including-all-of-Collins, and/or post-Collins? Thought about pitching THE LAMB LIES DOWN ON BROADWAY to 33 1/3 (but nobody got the green light on that anyway), Andy "I can't speak English right now." - --overheard at work recently ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:41:41 -0700 (PDT) From: "Joseph M. Mallon" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] little technical blurb I've never seen before On Wed, 18 Apr 2007, zoom@muppetlabs.com wrote: > Wow. End-of-Gabriel, early-Collins, up-to-and-including-all-of-Collins, > and/or post-Collins? TRICK-ABACAB: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesis_1976-1982 I bought the Hong Kong version. > Thought about pitching THE LAMB LIES DOWN ON BROADWAY to 33 1/3 (but > nobody got the green light on that anyway), Good luck puzzling that one out. Joe Mallon jmmallon@joescafe.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 18:06:05 -0700 (PDT) From: zoom@muppetlabs.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] little technical blurb I've never seen before >> Thought about pitching THE LAMB LIES DOWN ON BROADWAY to 33 1/3 (but >> nobody got the green light on that anyway), > > Good luck puzzling that one out. Hm...puzzling out that 33 1/3 didn't want to bite (from anyone's hand), or puzzling out LAMB's underlying meaning(s)? According to Wikipedia, at least (which I trust most of the time), "Interpretation of the Lamb remains a matter of speculation as there is no official explanation of its meaning. All accounts of this album's recording say it was rushed, and that Gabriel did not have time to completely finish his lyrics. There is no known interview in which Gabriel expounds on the obscure story." So it's out there with whatever Richard Butler's intoning at the end of "Pretty In Pink," (original version), Andy "There is more similarity in a precious painting by Degas and a frosted mug of root beer than you ever thought possible." - --A Alfred Taubman, owner of 650 A&W Root Beer Stands and Chairman, Sotheby Galleries ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 21:30:43 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: [loud-fans] little technical blurb I've never seen before On 4/18/07, zoom@muppetlabs.com wrote: > > >> Thought about pitching THE LAMB LIES DOWN ON BROADWAY to 33 1/3 (but > >> nobody got the green light on that anyway), > > > > Good luck puzzling that one out. > > Hm...puzzling out that 33 1/3 didn't want to bite (from anyone's hand), or > puzzling out LAMB's underlying meaning(s)? According to Wikipedia, at > least (which I trust most of the time), "Interpretation of the Lamb > remains a matter of speculation as there is no official explanation of its > meaning. All accounts of this album's recording say it was rushed, and > that Gabriel did not have time to completely finish his lyrics. There is > no known interview in which Gabriel expounds on the obscure story." There's also the fact that it was the early '70s: between the general love of obscurity in rock lyrics at the time, and the probability that many musicians' brain chemistries might have been working in modes not strictly speaking to be found in unaided nature, well, these things happen. I think it's a perfectly typical story about a young Puerto Rican boy in NYC who sees this lamb lying down on Broadway, ends up in a weird wonderland, has his plumbing fairly decisively altered, is eaten alive by hypnotic feminine snake-like creatures, and ends up having to decide between saving his detachable penis and his brother. Typical _Lifetime_ movie-of-the-week stuff. If I remember the main plot points correctly, that is... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V7 #96 ******************************