From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V7 #87 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Tuesday, April 10 2007 Volume 07 : Number 087 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [loud-fans] New releases (Dino Jr.) ["outbound-only email address" ] Re: [loud-fans] New releases (Dino Jr.) ["outbound-only email address" ] Re: [loud-fans] His Master's Voice [Jenny Grover Subject: [loud-fans] New releases (Dino Jr.) zooom: > Radio? Wow, that's fast--Amazon doesn't even have sound samples up. > > Did you find them lame before, or did you find the reunion aspect suspect? Um, kinda both I guess -- I don't think I heard all of the post-Bug records, but I sorta thought they peaked in '87-'88 and I was progressively less interested by (what I heard from) subsequent releases. I did like a fair amount of Seba/Sentri-Doh through most of the '90s, but that's a horse from a completely different kettle. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 10:13:38 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: [loud-fans] New releases (Dino Jr.) On 4/9/07, outbound-only email address wrote: > > zooom: > > > Radio? Wow, that's fast--Amazon doesn't even have sound samples up. > > > > Did you find them lame before, or did you find the reunion aspect > suspect? > > > Um, kinda both I guess -- I don't think I heard all of the post-Bug > records, > but I sorta thought they peaked in '87-'88 and I was progressively less > interested by (what I heard from) subsequent releases. FWIW, I find it increasingly hard to stomach nearly anything from the early '90s with even the slightest grunge tincture. Probably Nirvana might be an exception - but I haven't listened to them for years either. I did like a fair amount of Seba/Sentri-Doh through most of the '90s, but > that's a horse from a completely different kettle. > For some reason, Sebadoh never did anything for me. This confuses all those RIYL algorithm thingies out there on the web: they all think I should like them. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 11:26:14 -0400 From: "outbound-only email address" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] New releases (Dino Jr.) 2fs > I did like a fair amount of Seba/Sentri-Doh through most of the '90s, but > > that's a horse from a completely different kettle. > > > > For some reason, Sebadoh never did anything for me. This confuses all > those > RIYL algorithm thingies out there on the web: they all think I should like > them. One of the big problems with most extant RIYL algorithms is that they can't tell if you like an artist *because of* a trait (say, general sloppy-assedness in the studio and a poor ability to self-edit) or *despite* a trait (or if you're basically neutral). I thought there was enough catchy/at-least-semi-competent stuff on the average Seba/Sentri-doh release that I usually bought the next one in line, but I can definitely see going the other way. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 20:20:53 EDT From: Scout82667@aol.com Subject: [loud-fans] His Master's Voice Perhaps some here will understand the thrill: Splurged with tax refund money and got a Numark PT-1 turntable for 150 bucks--plays 78s, and has modern RCA connects--fantastic. Right now I'm playing a record that was my great-great grandmother's, who bought this in Alabama 90 something years ago--a Sousa march. Some of these records, in bound leather volumes, have red labels that say "Victrola" and one side is blank, with a decorative Victrola logo in a textured surface. Fabulous. They're so primitive, they predate electric recording and were recorded directly into the horn, and don't even have run-out grooves--they just stop at the end and the tone arm stays in the same spot. Earlier I played some sides of "Rhapsody in Blue," cut in the '30s. I haven't been able to listen to these records since I had a record player as a child (remember BSR turntables?--I had a BSR that played 78s) that would play these. Nothing makes one feel quite so young as to listen to a recording made about 60 years before you were born. - --Mark, hoping our doughboys get home safe ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 19:52:47 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: [loud-fans] His Master's Voice On 4/9/07, Scout82667@aol.com wrote: > > Perhaps some here will understand the thrill: > > Splurged with tax refund money and got a Numark PT-1 turntable for 150 > bucks--plays 78s, and has modern RCA connects--fantastic. Right now > I'm playing a > record that was my great-great grandmother's, who bought this in Alabama > 90 > something years ago--a Sousa march. Some of these records, in bound > leather > volumes, have red labels that say "Victrola" and one side is blank, with > a > decorative Victrola logo in a textured surface. Fabulous. They're so > primitive, they predate electric recording and were recorded directly > into the horn, > and don't even have run-out grooves--they just stop at the end and the > tone > arm stays in the same spot. Earlier I played some sides of "Rhapsody in > Blue," cut in the '30s. I haven't been able to listen to these records > since I > had a record player as a child (remember BSR turntables?--I had a BSR > that > played 78s) that would play these. That does sound pretty cool - but if you can, you should digitize those suckers on the first play, and preserve them. Googling "digitize LPs" will probably enlighten you as to the mysterious techniques involved. (It's only a rumor that sacrificing goats is involved. Usually, a small insect is sufficient.) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2007 23:07:37 -0400 From: Jenny Grover Subject: Re: [loud-fans] His Master's Voice 2fs wrote: > Googling "digitize LPs" will probably enlighten you as to the mysterious > techniques involved. (It's only a rumor that sacrificing goats is involved. > Usually, a small insect is sufficient.) > Oh, now you tell me. I can probably get a lot more of them done now that I know. Jen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 20:29:06 -0700 (PDT) From: zoom@muppetlabs.com Subject: [loud-fans] Robert Christgau explains it all for you http://music.msn.com/music/consumerguide I'll be dipped, that Nils Petter Molvfr sounds like something to follow. He won't explain why he doesn't dig Lindsey Buckingham, though, Andy "I remember hearing something about that, but I don't think it was from anyone who knew what they were talking about." - --overheard at work recently ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 00:03:23 EDT From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Robert Christgau explains it all for you In a message dated 4/9/2007 11:33:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, zoom@muppetlabs.com writes: He won't explain why he doesn't dig Lindsey Buckingham, though, He never explained why he didn't like Buckingham's last album, Out of the Cradle, either. So I am not suprised he passed on Lindsey's latest. Andrea ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V7 #87 ******************************