From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V7 #44 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Tuesday, February 20 2007 Volume 07 : Number 044 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [loud-fans] Poverty and Hard Choices (was Bridge to Terabithia) [Francis ] Re: [loud-fans] dynamico ["Pete O." ] Re: [loud-fans] Bridge to Terabithia [2fs ] RE: [loud-fans] Bridge to Terabithia ["Tom Galczynski" ] Re: [loud-fans] Bridge to Terabithia [CertronC90@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 07:18:47 -0600 From: Francis J H Park Subject: [loud-fans] Poverty and Hard Choices (was Bridge to Terabithia) Mark notes: > Because I cannot get into paying $8.50 for a ticket and 5 bucks for a > Coke. I've said it before--I'm a cheap bastard. I'm going to take my I think part of the reason I've largely stopped going to movie theaters is that viewing something on disk allows me to stop and get something to eat, answer the phone, stop and pick up later if it's really urgent...and the cost of the disk is about the same as what it'd cost to take both adults to the theater. For me, over a decade of jumping out of planes and various kinds of small arms and heavy weapons fire at the job has thrashed my hearing, so I'm unabashedly reliant on subtitles at home. > rural Virginia. I don't understand why every fricking Disney thing > has to be set in California. Are they even faithful to the orignal Nothing like seeing the pine forests of North Carolina attempting to masquerade as Vietnam for the Duke! There is a scene in 'The Green Berets' which I know for a fact is filmed over Fort Bragg; the view in the distance is of four different drop zones which I know extremely well, both from flying over, or landing on them. I never knew pine trees were so prevalent in southeast Asia... > They did a similar thing with Shiloh--the boy's family in the book is > poor (rural Appalachia), but in the movie his house looks like the > cover of a Land's End catalog, with daddy driving the Wagoneer. It > actually pissed me off. The boy's poverty had a major role in I suspect the average American viewer doesn't want to see realistic depictions of poverty. It's too close to real life for their comfort. Americans would rather see 'Desperate Housewives' rather than 'Friday Night Lights.' There are elements of the Third World that exist in the United States. Chunks of Louisiana and Appalachia fit that bill as much as places outside the United States, if for reasons of culture as much as comparative level of governance. Dorothea Lange's photography is gritty, but edifying. It's also nonfiction. I'm not sure if I can say the same thing about TV these days. I suspect my favorite show, 'Battlestar Galactica,' enjoys a small, albeit extremely partisan audience. I have lost count of the discussions of the show I've had that are directly relevant to my profession about that show - some of it in my classroom this year. That said, there's a reason I call it "The Show of Hard Choices." It's also one of the reasons I don't ever expect to see it migrate to NBC off the Sci-Fi Network. Escapist? Of course, I'd argue that much of television is inherently escapist. np: The Go! Team, "Huddle Information" - -- Francis J. H. Park Fort Leavenworth, KS, USA http://tbolp.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 05:25:34 -0800 (PST) From: "Pete O." Subject: Re: [loud-fans] dynamico Short (very) review in The Toronto Star this weekend... http://www.thestar.com/article/182223 - --- robert toren wrote: > Larry says > > just got my copy of Mitch's new solo release. Wow! > It's so lush and majestic. > >>I'm gonna be listening to this one for a long time > to come. > >>Thanks to Joe and Sue for all your efforts in seeing > this through. > Ditto - Joe & Sue - too cool! > Been playing it daily, tapping my toes - and at work > where people bop their heads to it - excellent record! > catchy hooks - cool lyrics - exceeds expectations - > can't wait to drive cross-country with it in the CD > player > > Robert > btw - seven photos of Devo live at UC Davis Coffee > House 1978 on www.davis80smusic.com_ under Coffee > House Shows link > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now. > ====== No, no, no, Lisa. If adults don't like their jobs, they don't go on strike. They just go in every day and do it really half-assed.  H.J.S. ====== ===== Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 08:12:08 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Bridge to Terabithia On 2/19/07, CertronC90@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 2/18/2007 4:02:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > zoom@muppetlabs.com writes: > > Unsure why Mark doesn't do movie theaters much. He's not the only one. My answers: crap sound systems, gum on the floor, idiots who think it's their living room*, small screens in subdivided rooms with poor heating/AC, having to pay to watch ads for the Marines and Coke, having to watch previews that insult my intelligence... Last several times I've seen a movie in a theater, the damned movie was nearly ruined by idiots yapping throughout. Tell them (politely and quietly) to shut the fuck up, and they act like you just proposed that their mother get it on with a Great Dane. Oh - and to compensate for babbling morons, theaters typically turn the sound up so loud you might as well be at a Def Leppard show. Screw it - I'll wait for the DVD. Most the movies I like aren't all that dependent upon being all huge and multispeaker anyway. I have an imagination. * True story: 10pm showing, R-rated movie. About halfway through, two adults and four or five kids ranging in age from about five to about sixteen wander into the theater, seating themselves randomly about the house, chomping on popcorn and candy and *talking to each other*. Then they get up and change seats (apparently they were checking out the view from different seats?) They had no clue that, uh, there's a movie going on. I like movies. I hate "entertainment" - and entertainment comes with babbling and popcorn-chomping and cellphone yapping. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 08:53:16 -0600 From: "Tom Galczynski" Subject: RE: [loud-fans] Bridge to Terabithia Totally agree with the movie theatre bashing. For me, it's mainly the price ($10) though. But I gotta say I saw "The Departed" in a theatre with DLP and the clarity of the picture was just phenomenal. To my eyes, it totally blows away film. I will definitely pay to see movies projected this way. Of course, the late show when most of the kiddies are a-snooze.... > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-loud-fans@smoe.org > [mailto:owner-loud-fans@smoe.org] On Behalf Of 2fs > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 8:12 AM > To: the sort of thing most people never give a second thought > Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Bridge to Terabithia > > On 2/19/07, CertronC90@aol.com wrote: > > > > In a message dated 2/18/2007 4:02:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > > zoom@muppetlabs.com writes: > > > > Unsure why Mark doesn't do movie theaters much. > > > He's not the only one. > > My answers: crap sound systems, gum on the floor, idiots who > think it's > their living room*, small screens in subdivided rooms with > poor heating/AC, > having to pay to watch ads for the Marines and Coke, having to watch > previews that insult my intelligence... > > Last several times I've seen a movie in a theater, the damned > movie was > nearly ruined by idiots yapping throughout. Tell them > (politely and quietly) > to shut the fuck up, and they act like you just proposed that > their mother > get it on with a Great Dane. Oh - and to compensate for > babbling morons, > theaters typically turn the sound up so loud you might as > well be at a Def > Leppard show. > > Screw it - I'll wait for the DVD. Most the movies I like > aren't all that > dependent upon being all huge and multispeaker anyway. I have an > imagination. > > * True story: 10pm showing, R-rated movie. About halfway > through, two adults > and four or five kids ranging in age from about five to about > sixteen wander > into the theater, seating themselves randomly about the > house, chomping on > popcorn and candy and *talking to each other*. Then they get > up and change > seats (apparently they were checking out the view from > different seats?) > They had no clue that, uh, there's a movie going on. > > I like movies. I hate "entertainment" - and entertainment comes with > babbling and popcorn-chomping and cellphone yapping. > > -- > > ...Jeff Norman > > The Architectural Dance Society > http://spanghew.blogspot.com > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. > For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email > ______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 09:07:37 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Bridge to Terabithia On 2/19/07, Tom Galczynski wrote: > > Totally agree with the movie theatre bashing. For me, it's mainly the > price > ($10) though. But I gotta say I saw "The Departed" in a theatre with DLP > and the clarity of the picture was just phenomenal. To my eyes, it > totally > blows away film. I will definitely pay to see movies projected this way. > Of course, the late show when most of the kiddies are a-snooze.... No question that in a good theater (and an audience free of idiots), movies are way better than at home. Problem is, you can never really assure that experience. Even the late show thing doesn't keep kiddies away, though (as my previous example suggested) ... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 17:26:53 EST From: CertronC90@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Bridge to Terabithia Well, when the boy Jesse's hand and arm turned into a super robo-hand and arm. in the enchanted Harry Potteresque forest fighting the forces of evil, Mom nudged me and whispered, "What happened to the book?" I don't know. - --Mark ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V7 #44 ******************************