From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V7 #43 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Monday, February 19 2007 Volume 07 : Number 043 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [loud-fans] Swans Way ["Paul King" ] Re: [loud-fans] whatever happened to? [CertronC90@aol.com] Re: [loud-fans] Bridge to Terabithia [zoom@muppetlabs.com] Re: [loud-fans] Bridge to Terabithia [2fs ] Re: [loud-fans] Bridge to Terabithia [zoom@muppetlabs.com] Re: [loud-fans] Bridge to Terabithia [2fs ] Re: [loud-fans] Bridge to Terabithia [zoom@muppetlabs.com] [loud-fans] Lensed [Dan Sallitt ] Re: [loud-fans] Bridge to Terabithia [CertronC90@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 09:46:58 -0500 From: "Paul King" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Swans Way On 17 Feb 2007 at 21:41, Richard Gagnon wrote: > Paul wrote: > > > Way, way back when I started university, I heard this really > > kickin' tune > > called "The Anchor" by Swans Way. I find out that what I heard was > > a long EP > > version of the song. > > That's the one I have too. I heard it a single time on CFNY in > Toronto (then in its golden age), and bought the British 12", > probably at Records On Wheels in Downtown TO. Such memories... I heard it only once on Brave New Waves one night on CBC Radio (Augusta La Paix was the host). Ten years later, I find it on Napster (before the days when they changed the business structure). This was the only evidence that I was not hearing things and wasn't crazy. > > > A shorter version appeared on an album called "The > > Fugitive Kind", which I finally bought on E-Bay (This one arrived > > as a vinyl LP > > sealed in very old, yellowing plastic -- never opened, it seems). > > Wow. That's odd. You'd think the full version would be on the album, > an edit on the 45, and both versions on the 12"...how's the short > version? I'll assume that you won't be too much of a fetishist to > pull it out of its plastic womb and let it breathe. > If I had read these words first, Richard, I would have never opened it :-) Maybe poke a few holes in it and feed it once a week or so... :-) And yes, you would think that the longer version would be on the LP. But alas, they cut out the ENTIRE intro (except for the couple of seconds at the start from the horn section), and the vocal part is all that is left. It is the kind of editing reminiscent of K-Tel records when they tried to fit 24 tunes onto a single vinyl LP. I also have the 7" single from E-Bay, similarly butchered. While I still enjoy both records immensely, I am struck by a distinct sense of something being missing when I listen to it. > > Would anyone know anything about Swans Way (no apostrophe), apart > > from the fact > > that they hearken from around the mid '80s, and are British by all > > appearances? > > Sure enough, they're Brits. I know is that two out of three members > (i.e. not the lead guy from Swans Way) became Scarlet Fantastic, and > had a little more success on the charts (well, enough to be one hit > wonders, which Swans Way themselves achieved with a top 20 hit called > Soul Train, which I haven't heard) with much less tasteful music ("No > Memory" was their hit). > Soul Train is on The Fugitive Kind. Nice sax solo in it; there are elements of '80s new wave/punk harmonies from the backing vocals that remind me of Lydia Lunch, Oingo Boingo and similar New Wave acts of that era -- except in a much milder form. There is a definite influence of ABC (Lexicon of Love) and Bowie (Let's Dance) throughout the album. > More on their stories here: > > http://www.scarlet-fantastic.co.uk/swansway/swansway.html > > Wow, two messages from me on the same day. How many years has it been? > > Rick > > __________ NOD32 2068 (20070218) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 14:09:56 EST From: CertronC90@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] whatever happened to? In a message dated 2/17/2007 7:05:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, rwinston@tde.com writes: Oh, okay, I get what he was implying now. Mark, listening to Blue Oyster Cult doesn't make you a stoner. It makes you a heroin addict. What I meant was I'll buy you a drink and you buy me one (stoners say "I'll match you," meaning they'll smoke two joints together) . I didn't want us going out in your fictitious Hummer drunk and driving--we would be fine, but everyone else would be dead. But alas, don't fear The Reaper, - --Mark, who watched in horror, repulsion at dinner last night at a Chinese buffet where a family came in coughing loudly, mouths uncovered, coughed loudly all through dinner, and their daughter, short enough to stand below the sneeze guard, coughed a phlegmy cough on all the food--then the two parents complained the food wasn't fresh to the waitress ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 13:02:04 -0800 (PST) From: zoom@muppetlabs.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Bridge to Terabithia > Anybody seen this? I don't do movie theaters much, but I really want to > see > this one. In my student teaching, I had to create and teach a unit, with > assessments and all, and I chose the book (made a perfect score--puff, > puff). > I had to edit it, because it has some controversial stuff in there, and I > didn't want to piss any parents off, Still, it's my favorite kiddie > book, and > I'm hoping they did it justice. Good? Took my Mom to PAN'S LABYRINTH, instead, yesterday. But BRIDGE played on a different screen, out at the Mountlake 9. While I haven't seen it (and only read the book once), professional and amateur reviewers alike seem quite keen, for the most part. My 3 favorite sources for film reviews (with some overlap, not surprisingly): www.imdb.com (type in the title of the film that interests you, then click "external reviews" and/or "user comments") www.metacritic.com www.rottentomatoes.com And don't forget, it's already been lensed once, for PBS in 1985. You can rent that version now. Unsure why Mark doesn't do movie theaters much. Funny how a Christian billionaire ends up bringing this story to the big screen, Andy "It's like an After-School Special version of 'Pan's Labyrinth,' and I actually mean that as a compliment." - --Ty Burr, from his thought-provoking review of BRIDGE at http://www.boston.com/movies/display?display=movie&id=8920 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 15:48:45 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Bridge to Terabithia On 2/18/07, zoom@muppetlabs.com wrote: > > > > > And don't forget, it's already been lensed once, for PBS in 1985. > "Lensed"? I'd say that "I threw up in my mouth a little" but that phrase is already overused. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 18:05:47 -0800 (PST) From: zoom@muppetlabs.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Bridge to Terabithia > "Lensed"? > > I'd say that "I threw up in my mouth a little" but that phrase is already > overused. Not sure what you're on about... Andy lens /lɛnz/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[lenz] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, plural lens7es, verb noun 1. a piece of transparent substance, usually glass, having two opposite surfaces either both curved or one curved and one plane, used in an optical device in changing the convergence of light rays, as for magnification, or in correcting defects of vision. 2. a combination of such pieces. 3. some analogous device, as for affecting sound waves, electromagnetic radiation, or streams of electrons. 4. Anatomy. crystalline lens. 5. Geology. a body of rock or ore that is thick in the middle and thinner toward the edges, similar in shape to a biconvex lens. verb (used with object) *6. Movies. to film (a motion picture). - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [Origin: 168595; < NL, special use of L lins a lentil (from its shape); see lentil] - --from http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/lens ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 21:00:59 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Bridge to Terabithia On 2/18/07, zoom@muppetlabs.com wrote: > > > "Lensed"? > > > > I'd say that "I threw up in my mouth a little" but that phrase is > already > > overused. > > Not sure what you're on about... Oh, it just seems a bit too insider-y - like something the old _Variety_ used. I'm sure it appears regularly in _EW_ and the like - but it just bugs me a bit. I think also because it seems weirdly specific as a synecdoche: like saying that R.E.M. is "miking" their new CD (of course, with two Michaels in the band, maybe that would make a degree of sense...) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 19:37:11 -0800 (PST) From: zoom@muppetlabs.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Bridge to Terabithia > Oh, it just seems a bit too insider-y - Do NOT show this man a paper called "The Village Voice"! A book called A CLOCKWORK ORANGE might not work either, Andy "Thy steady temper, Portius, Can look on guilt, rebellion, fraud, and Cfsar, In the calm lights of mild philosophy." - --Joseph Addison ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 23:27:20 -0500 (EST) From: Dan Sallitt Subject: [loud-fans] Lensed > Oh, it just seems a bit too insider-y - like something the old _Variety_ > used. It's something the old and the new Variety uses: it's pure Variety-speak. So your tolerance for the phrase probably depends on whether you consider Variety-speak a fascinating phenomenon or not. Myself, I'm totally fascinated by the way this magazine created its own 30s-style, American-pragmatic argot, and managed to impose it on all its writers for the last 70 or 80 years. - Dan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 01:32:13 EST From: CertronC90@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Bridge to Terabithia In a message dated 2/18/2007 4:02:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, zoom@muppetlabs.com writes: Unsure why Mark doesn't do movie theaters much. Because I cannot get into paying $8.50 for a ticket and 5 bucks for a Coke. I've said it before--I'm a cheap bastard. I'm going to take my mom, because I read the book to her while I was doing the teaching unit and she loved it (and I'm trying to get her out of the house since my stepfather died--she's becoming like Howard Hughes), but I understand that they aren't faithful to the book, meaning it's not rural Virginia. I don't understand why every fricking Disney thing has to be set in California. Are they even faithful to the orignal setting, the school year the book's characters are in 5th grade, 1977-78? (same as some of us) I'll go read the reviews you suggested, Andy. Thanks, much. I've also heard the movie has some supernatural stuff going on in it that isn't faithful to the book, either. How post Harry Potter. They did a similar thing with Shiloh--the boy's family in the book is poor (rural Appalachia), but in the movie his house looks like the cover of a Land's End catalog, with daddy driving the Wagoneer. It actually pissed me off. The boy's poverty had a major role in shaping his behavior as a character. I guess nobody wants to see poor people in a Disney movie, unless some fairy makes them rich (I see a wide open opportunity to make a joke here, but I did say I'd try and curb it a bit). - --Mark ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V7 #43 ******************************