From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V6 #231 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Sunday, November 19 2006 Volume 06 : Number 231 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [loud-fans] Traffic Rookies [CertronC90@aol.com] Re: [loud-fans] Traffic Rookies [2fs ] Re: [loud-fans] Traffic Rookies ["Sgt. Cockring" ] RE: [loud-fans] Traffic Rookies ["Rick Butland" ] RE: [loud-fans] "What If It Works?" review [zoom@muppetlabs.com] Re: [loud-fans] Traffic Rookies [zoom@muppetlabs.com] Re: [loud-fans] Traffic Rookies [2fs ] Re: [loud-fans] Traffic Rookies [Jenny Grover ] Re: [loud-fans] Traffic Rookies [CertronC90@aol.com] Re: [loud-fans] atomic listening [Gil Ray ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 11:17:19 EST From: CertronC90@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Traffic Rookies In a message dated 11/17/2006 12:37:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, dstanley@broadcom.com writes: Try driving a Prius! You could be driving down a beautiful country road on a sunny Sunday afternoon with only one other car on the road. That car will cut you off. I must say how much I respect you for driving a Prius. I imagine hostilities peaked for you when gas prices peaked. When I had the 42 mpg Swift (which I now regret trading in, but I did want a little more side room--I even removed the driver's side door panel for more room, lol), I'd get amused looks when gas prices were down, then constant questions when filling up when prices were high. "What kind of car is that?" "What kind of mileage do you get?" Where were these people a dollar a gallon lower? I just read that Toyota has finally caught up with demand for the Prius. So, smart people of the world, unite and take over. Didn't Honda have a deal with their first electric hybrid car where the government would pay you a couple grand a year or give you a tax break or something like that for owning one? I'm sure that's long gone. - --Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 11:37:50 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Traffic Rookies On 11/18/06, CertronC90@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 11/17/2006 12:37:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > dstanley@broadcom.com writes: > > Try driving a Prius! > > You could be driving down a beautiful country road on a sunny Sunday > afternoon with only one other car on the road. That car will cut you > off. > I must say how much I respect you for driving a Prius. I imagine > hostilities peaked for you when gas prices peaked. > > When I had the 42 mpg Swift (which I now regret trading in, but I did > want a > little more side room--I even removed the driver's side door panel for > more > room, lol), I'd get amused looks when gas prices were down, then constant > questions when filling up when prices were high. "What kind of car > is that?" > "What kind of mileage do you get?" Where were these people a dollar a > gallon > lower? I drive a Mini Cooper. In fact, it doesn't get the best mileage given its size (it's designed to have a little more oomph than you'd expect), but naturally people think it gets excellent mileage (27 city 32 freeway, approximately, is what it actually gets). But I've never had anyone look at my with hostility for driving it - although when gas prices were at their highest, there were queries about what kind of mileage it got. Those weren't hostile, though - more curious or conversational. I must admit: the bad part of me would truly enjoy having some idiot in a Hummer act hostilely to me (for what? the car being foreign?) just because it would be transparently obvious that the guy's in crisis over having spent eighty grand or whatever on a gas-sucking pig of a car. All to "impress" people. I think penis-enlargement-scam folks oughta just buy the Hummer-owners' mailing list - I'm sure it'd increase their sales dramatically. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 13:14:36 -0500 From: "Sgt. Cockring" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Traffic Rookies Salutations, gang. It warms Sarge's heart to see you kids getting along so well and finding so much in common! A salute to all-- Sarge On 11/18/06, 2fs wrote: > > On 11/18/06, CertronC90@aol.com wrote: > > When I had the 42 mpg Swift (which I now regret trading in, but I did > > want a > > little more side room--I even removed the driver's side door panel for > > more > > room, lol), I'd get amused looks when gas prices were down, then > constant > > questions when filling up when prices were high. "What kind of car > > is that?" > > "What kind of mileage do you get?" Where were these people a dollar a > > gallon > > lower? > > > I drive a Mini Cooper. In fact, it doesn't get the best mileage given its > size (it's designed to have a little more oomph than you'd expect), but > naturally people think it gets excellent mileage (27 city 32 freeway, > approximately, is what it actually gets). But I've never had anyone look > at > my with hostility for driving it - although when gas prices were at their > highest, there were queries about what kind of mileage it got. Those > weren't > hostile, though - more curious or conversational. > > I must admit: the bad part of me would truly enjoy having some idiot in a > Hummer act hostilely to me (for what? the car being foreign?) just because > it would be transparently obvious that the guy's in crisis over having > spent > eighty grand or whatever on a gas-sucking pig of a car. All to "impress" > people. I think penis-enlargement-scam folks oughta just buy the > Hummer-owners' mailing list - I'm sure it'd increase their sales > dramatically. > > -- > > ...Jeff Norman > > The Architectural Dance Society > http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 14:56:05 -0400 From: "Rick Butland" Subject: RE: [loud-fans] Traffic Rookies > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-loud-fans@smoe.org [mailto:owner-loud-fans@smoe.org] On Behalf > Of 2fs > Sent: November 18, 2006 1:38 PM > To: the sort of thing most people never give a second thought > Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Traffic Rookies > I must admit: the bad part of me would truly enjoy having some idiot in a > Hummer act hostilely to me (for what? the car being foreign?) just because > it would be transparently obvious that the guy's in crisis over having > spent > eighty grand or whatever on a gas-sucking pig of a car. All to "impress" > people. I think penis-enlargement-scam folks oughta just buy the > Hummer-owners' mailing list - I'm sure it'd increase their sales > dramatically. > > -- Apparently the Hummer folks have even designed their latest ad campaign around the LTD* syndrome. :) http://www.slate.com/id/2147657/ * Little Tiny Dick ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 14:06:31 -0800 (PST) From: zoom@muppetlabs.com Subject: RE: [loud-fans] "What If It Works?" review > Jenny, I completely agree with you re:Attractive Nuisance. I thought it > was the LF's best/strongest CD and yes I include PABARAT. When I read > that > line in the review about AN being listless, I tended to discount the whole > review which WAS mainly positive as others have pointed out. I don't remember Glen as anything but a fine fellow, don't get me wrong. Looking through the review, though, doggone if certain phrases don't leap out at me: "taken his ball and gone home"..."teasingly slight"..."in need of an editor"..."undercooked ideas"..."rehash" (of the undercooked ideas, one would assume)..."bellyaching"... Also, just to clarify, I'm looking at a web incarnation of a print mag, right? If not, the remarks about not having enough space to address certain issues make no sense. "There's no limit--so long as I hollow it out." - --Willy Wonka on cyberspa--er, the vast underground rooms in his chocolate factory complex (should probably just go ahead and order a copy of the thing and hear for myself) Andy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 14:42:19 -0800 (PST) From: zoom@muppetlabs.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Traffic Rookies >I think penis-enlargement-scam folks oughta just buy the > Hummer-owners' mailing list - I'm sure it'd increase their sales > dramatically. You haven't heard? That's already happened. In reverse. Recently wrote a spectacularly ill-received short story about a man obsessed with another man's penis (any interested readers reply offlist), Andy Along with other Central and Eastern Europe vehicles marketed in the West during the 20th century - such as Lada and koda - the Yugo was subjected to derision by critics who pointed to its use of old-generation Fiat technology and to alleged issues with build quality and reliability. Defenders of the vehicle have counter-argued that the Yugo's reputation suffered due to an issue that also appeared with initially-inexpensive cars as the Chevrolet Chevette, Rambler, Crosley and others - dealers were finding that too many owners were considering inexpensive cars as "disposable", and were failing to perform basic maintenance such as oil changes. As with all motor vehicles, Yugo's basic design requires a certain amount of regular maintenance. One critical issue specific to the Yugo was the need for regular replacement of the close-tolerance (known in the industry as an interference engine) engine's timing belt - every 40,000 miles. Though this requirement was stressed in owners' manuals, it was too frequently overlooked by owners. The factory also stresses the need for 89-octane fuels for the high-compression engines. Some Yugo owners have reported that regular oil changes and appropriate maintenance allow the cars to remain dependable and basically trouble-free. [9] Owners of the Yugo and related models in the former Yugoslavia benefit from a ready supply of inexpensive spare parts due to general continuity in the car's design; local mechanics' ready familiarity with the Yugo also lowers the cost of ownership. Yugo owners in America can still generally find parts, and access to parts and service is assisted by design commonalities with the Fiat 127 and 128. - --from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugo ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 17:07:52 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Traffic Rookies On 11/18/06, Rick Butland wrote: > > > > Apparently the Hummer folks have even designed their latest ad campaign > around the LTD* syndrome. :) > > http://www.slate.com/id/2147657/ > > > * Little Tiny Dick What I find amusing in the article is the notion of the vehicle's rep as "intimidating," primarily in a financial sense. That may be true for potential buyers - but for the rest of us, the vehicle's reputation is, more simply, "an asshole is driving me." - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 18:18:10 -0500 From: Jenny Grover Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Traffic Rookies zoom@muppetlabs.com wrote: > > Recently wrote a spectacularly ill-received short story about a man > obsessed with another man's penis (any interested readers reply offlist), > Interested in which, the story, or the other man's penis? Jen ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 18:19:45 -0500 From: Jenny Grover Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Traffic Rookies 2fs wrote: > > What I find amusing in the article is the notion of the vehicle's rep as > "intimidating," primarily in a financial sense. That may be true for > potential buyers - but for the rest of us, the vehicle's reputation is, more > simply, "an asshole is driving me." > They also seem not to realize the snicker factor-- the main reaction I know of from anyone who sees one on the road, particularly in banana yellow! Jen ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 16:02:14 -0800 (PST) From: zoom@muppetlabs.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Traffic Rookies > Interested in which, the story, or the other man's penis? Woo hoo! If you're interested the man's penis, I can pass along one link. If you're interested in the story, I can pass along another, completely separate link. But only on request. Scared and appalled enough people for one week (and then some)... Andy I I want a hero: an uncommon want, When every year and month sends forth a new one, Till, after cloying the gazettes with cant, The age discovers he is not the true one; Of such as these I should not care to vaunt, I'll therefore take our ancient friend Don Juan -- We all have seen him, in the pantomime, Sent to the devil somewhat ere his time. II - --Lord Byron, opening of "Don Juan," from, in this case, http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Delphi/7086/donjuan.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 22:40:15 -0500 From: Jenny Grover Subject: [loud-fans] atomic listening We've got "I Am Atomic Man" playing right now, and it is FUN! So if you haven't ordered yours yet, get off yer butt and do so! Great job, Gil! Love those warm, fuzzy guitars and all the outer space sounds. Dig. Jen ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 00:08:50 EST From: CertronC90@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Traffic Rookies In a message dated 11/18/2006 12:39:40 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jeffreyw2fs.j@gmail.com writes: But I've never had anyone look at my with hostility for driving it - although when gas prices were at their highest, there were queries about what kind of mileage it got. Those weren't hostile, though - more curious or conversational. Well, you have to remember that I live in Greenville, SC, that's A. It's kind of like the Ohio of "Heathers" where Christian Slater says "If you don't have a brewski in your hand, you may as well be wearing a dress." B, I have a buzz cut, beard and did at the time when I had the Suzuki, which is the same size as a Mini (I even toyed with the idea of a vanity plate reading "PRMNSMNI" (poor man's Mini). Also, I'm built like a linebacker--I have like, a 60 inch chest and 52" waist. So, it really isn't paranoia. I'm just asking for it, basically. Now with the Cavalier, I'm totally invisible. It's fabulous. I could rob banks and nobody would be able to find me. "He was a large man with a Nixon mask on and black Chuck Taylor low-tops and he was driving a---a---white car." Oh, btw, I've angered the gods. On my first delivery, I went to a bar (The Cotton Bottom---pure class) and delivered to the bartendress, and guess what? Toby Keith's "I Love This Bar" was playing on the jukebox. At 9, I got sideswiped by a Latino woman in a--get this--SUV, and she has no valid US or international license. I'm fine, not a scratch, but I have no driver's side mirror and I can't roll up my window, because it shattered, and the side of my car is all mangled. My Cavalier looks pretty sad. She, thankfully has insurance (according to the form the cop filled out) and started acting like she had neck problems (I turned my head and rolled my eyes--she had like, a loose turn signal lens and her bumper was pushed in ever so slightly--big f***ing deal), when she first told me she was fine after I asked her. It was her fault. The light was green for me and she turned left and I tried to miss her. Oh well, at least I got to get off work early. - --Mark "My analyst mentioned penis envy, you ever heard of that?" "I'm one of the few males who suffers from that." (Woody Allen and Diane Keaton, "Annie Hall") ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 23:05:54 -0800 (PST) From: Gil Ray Subject: Re: [loud-fans] atomic listening Thank you, Jenny!!!!! Gil - --- Jenny Grover wrote: > We've got "I Am Atomic Man" playing right now, and > it is FUN! So if you > haven't ordered yours yet, get off yer butt and do > so! > > Great job, Gil! Love those warm, fuzzy guitars and > all the outer space > sounds. Dig. > > Jen ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V6 #231 *******************************