From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V6 #215 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Saturday, November 4 2006 Volume 06 : Number 215 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [loud-fans] cover art [CertronC90@aol.com] [loud-fans] Beautiful South ["Michael Zwirn" ] Re: Subject: [loud-fans] cover art ["outbound-only email address" ] Re: Subject: [loud-fans] cover art ["outbound-only email address" ] Re: Subject: [loud-fans] cover art ["Joseph M. Mallon" ] [loud-fans] Loud Family on YouTube: Chokehold Princess/Little Non-Believers [robert toren ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 11:45:38 EST From: CertronC90@aol.com Subject: [loud-fans] cover art I was thinking about rock/pop album art and what covers to me were good representatives of the mental and cultural landscape of the time they appeared. If you could pick one album, from the '60s through the '90s, which would you pick? For me: "60s RUBBER SOUL-all that earthy green and brown, the long hair, the rounded puffy font of the title on the cover and the stoic look on Lennon's face show the new paradigm of the "young generation" in a photograph. '70s STICKY FINGERS- sort of what happened to the RUBBER SOUL kids. Still denim, but we've gone from the head and heart to well, "down there" as the focus (a soul made of rubber to a rubber in the wallet). We've gone from freeing your mind to freeing Mr. Happy. All those zippers couldn't have been cheap to include, either. '80s New Order LOW-LIFE- I was going to say the angular, black, minimalist art to New Order's original "Blue Monday" 12-inch (it looked like an old floppy which almost caused Factory to go under because of the cost of production) was the '80s, but that's a single. I think, if I were going to choose an album, it would be LL. It's dark and stark and angular, the short hair, the no nonsense font. It feels smart and aloof, and colder than a winter night in Moscow. It's like the antithesis of RUBBER SOUL. '90s Sonic Youth GOO- this was the hardest for me to decide on, but GOO has that Kinko's D.I.Y. feel to it that typifies the '90s (even if it was on Geffen). Manicured '80s isolation has gone from depression (anger turned inward) and erupted outward into feelings of rage "...we killed my parents and hit the road." The no nonsense font is replaced by handwritten scrawl and to me feels like a grass roots reaction to the '80s groomed coolness. Forget all this, we all know Cher's BELIEVE is the most important cover of the nineties and in the history of recorded music. - --Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 13:28:04 -0500 From: "Michael Zwirn" Subject: [loud-fans] Beautiful South The Beautiful South are playing tonight in DC - $25 tickets for an early show at the 9:30 Club. I've been a fan forever (well, err, since WELCOME TO THE BEAUTIFUL SOUTH, not, like, forever forever) but I've never seen them in concert. Anyone have any recommendations or endorsements? The last record I have by them is QUENCH, so I'm not sure where they stand now musically, but I heard very skeptical reviews of their last album of covers (Golddiggas & Headnodders). Michael Michael W. Zwirn michael@zwirn.com http://www.zwirn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 17:38:26 -0500 From: "outbound-only email address" Subject: Re: Subject: [loud-fans] cover art CertronC90: > If you could pick one album, from the '60s through the '90s, which would > you > pick? The back of my brain has been chewing on this for most of the day. If I'm thinking representative (rather than personal faves), I kinda think 60's: Are You Experienced or Sgt Pepper 70's: Definitely something from Hipgnosis. Possibly Dark Side of the Moon, but DSOTM wasn't exactly the most representative of the Hipgnosis studio, so maybe Houses of the Holy or something like that. 80's: Rio or Parallel Lines 90's: Nevermind ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 16:48:46 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Subject: [loud-fans] cover art On 11/3/06, outbound-only email address wrote: > > > The back of my brain has been chewing on this for most of the day. If I'm > thinking representative (rather than personal faves), I kinda think > > 60's: Are You Experienced or Sgt Pepper I can see either of those - although I think AYX is more representative of the decade's trends in album art. 70's: Definitely something from Hipgnosis. Possibly Dark Side of the Moon, > but DSOTM wasn't exactly the most representative of the Hipgnosis studio, > so > maybe Houses of the Holy or something like that. I think Hipgnosis is definitely the way to go for the '70s. 80's: Rio or Parallel Lines I'm leaning toward Rio. 90's: Nevermind This is the only one of your choices I don't get. As an album, it's iconic, yes - but as representative of the '90s album-art trends, I'm not sure. At least that idea is how I interpreted Mark's query. Since the decade is 2/3 over, any idea what to nominate for the uh-ohs? - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 17:55:46 -0500 From: "outbound-only email address" Subject: Re: Subject: [loud-fans] cover art 2fs: This is the only one of your choices I don't get. As an album, it's iconic, > yes - but as representative of the '90s album-art trends, I'm not sure. At > least that idea is how I interpreted Mark's query. A fair cop. I can't really come up w/ any reasonable justification, but my hind brain refused to let it go. So there it is. Uhoh's: Franz Ferdinand? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 17:23:18 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Subject: [loud-fans] cover art On 11/3/06, outbound-only email address wrote: > > > Uhoh's: Franz Ferdinand? > In other words: borrowed from nearly a hundred years ago? - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 15:47:55 -0800 (PST) From: "Joseph M. Mallon" Subject: Re: Subject: [loud-fans] cover art On Fri, 3 Nov 2006, outbound-only email address wrote: > 60's: Are You Experienced or Sgt Pepper > 70's: Definitely something from Hipgnosis. Possibly Dark Side of the Moon, > but DSOTM wasn't exactly the most representative of the Hipgnosis studio, so > maybe Houses of the Holy or something like that. I think PRESENCE or WISH YOU WERE HERE or FORCE IT... 80s indie: THE SMITHS or MURMUR 90s: either an early Master P album or BABY ONE MORE TIME Joe Mallon jmmallon@joescafe.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 17:17:18 -0800 (PST) From: "Tim Walters" Subject: Re: Subject: [loud-fans] cover art The Sixties: http://tinyurl.com/v7ylk The Seventies: http://tinyurl.com/vsuqt The Eighties: http://tinyurl.com/y438r5 The Nineties: http://tinyurl.com/y8volr The Oughties: http://tinyurl.com/y3lmcl ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 18:13:28 -0800 (PST) From: Gil Ray Subject: Re: [loud-fans] cover art This is definitely my 60's choice: http://glen.utdallas.edu/Glen/CDs/Cream/Cream%20Disraeli%20Gears.jpg Gil - --- CertronC90@aol.com wrote: > I was thinking about rock/pop album art and what > covers to me were good > representatives of the mental and cultural landscape > of the time they appeared. > If you could pick one album, from the '60s through > the '90s, which would you > pick? > > For me: > > "60s RUBBER SOUL-all that earthy green and brown, > the long hair, the > rounded puffy font of the title on the cover and the > stoic look on Lennon's face > show the new paradigm of the "young generation" in a > photograph. > > '70s STICKY FINGERS- sort of what happened to the > RUBBER SOUL kids. Still > denim, but we've gone from the head and heart to > well, "down there" as the > focus (a soul made of rubber to a rubber in the > wallet). We've gone from > freeing your mind to freeing Mr. Happy. All those > zippers couldn't have been > cheap to include, either. > > '80s New Order LOW-LIFE- I was going to say the > angular, black, minimalist > art to New Order's original "Blue Monday" 12-inch > (it looked like an old > floppy which almost caused Factory to go under > because of the cost of production) > was the '80s, but that's a single. I think, if I > were going to choose an > album, it would be LL. It's dark and stark and > angular, the short hair, the no > nonsense font. It feels smart and aloof, and colder > than a winter night in > Moscow. It's like the antithesis of RUBBER SOUL. > > '90s Sonic Youth GOO- this was the hardest for me to > decide on, but GOO has > that Kinko's D.I.Y. feel to it that typifies the > '90s (even if it was on > Geffen). Manicured '80s isolation has gone from > depression (anger turned inward) > and erupted outward into feelings of rage "...we > killed my parents and hit > the road." The no nonsense font is replaced by > handwritten scrawl and to me > feels like a grass roots reaction to the '80s > groomed coolness. > > Forget all this, we all know Cher's BELIEVE is the > most important cover of > the nineties and in the history of recorded music. > > --Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 19:46:35 -0800 (PST) From: robert toren Subject: [loud-fans] Loud Family on YouTube: Chokehold Princess/Little Non-Believers Rise of the Chokehold Princess http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhNmFK70aTw Such Little Nonbelievers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkFWsf3iD6k ____________________________________________________________________________________ Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates (http://voice.yahoo.com) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 20:58:06 -0800 (PST) From: robert toren Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Loud Family on YouTube: Chokehold Princess/Little Non-Believers > Rise of the Chokehold Princess > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhNmFK70aTw "Rise" seems to have a bit of a colour problem (rendering?, over-compression?) sigh - I had my brand new Hi-8 vidcam that night and was playing with the 'effects' settings - that particular setting collapsed the colors into a few flat ranges - while filming I had a bad habit of being more concerned with enjoying myself than with capturing a good historical record... bummer, in retrospect :-( the sound in the club that night was crap, too... to paraphrase Rummy, you go to YouTube with the videos you have, not the videos you wish you had... :-/ x R ____________________________________________________________________________________ Access over 1 million songs - Yahoo! Music Unlimited (http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 23:57:56 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Subject: [loud-fans] cover art Tim wins. (Also: is anyone else hearing that Andy Partridge snippet from _Miniatures_ along with TIm's parade of decades? If you're not, you should be... On 11/3/06, Tim Walters wrote: > > The Sixties: > > http://tinyurl.com/v7ylk > > The Seventies: > > http://tinyurl.com/vsuqt > > The Eighties: > > http://tinyurl.com/y438r5 > > The Nineties: > > http://tinyurl.com/y8volr > > The Oughties: > > http://tinyurl.com/y3lmcl > - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V6 #215 *******************************