From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V6 #145 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Thursday, July 27 2006 Volume 06 : Number 145 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [loud-fans] anachronism [Jenny Grover ] Re: [loud-fans] New Lyric Machine [2fs ] Re: [loud-fans] New Lyric Machine [glenn mcdonald ] Re: [loud-fans] New Lyric Machine [Tim Walters ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 16:27:12 -0400 From: Jenny Grover Subject: Re: [loud-fans] anachronism Roger Winston wrote: >One thing bothers me about WiiW. In Total Mass Destruction, there's that line about "And the fanzines rave but I don't see it payin' no bills". Fanzines? Do fanzines even exist anymore? I know the song is an old one, but since he re-recorded it, why didn't Scott update it to say "websites" or "internet" instead? > > Yes, there are still fanzines! Jen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 20:37:26 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: [loud-fans] New Lyric Machine On 7/26/06, Michael Mitton wrote: > > > > If you're still interestsed, I think "stylometry" is probably the word > to search under. And if in your searching you find the proof-positive > that the Book of Mormon is an ancient book written by prophets of god, > let me know--I'll have to put "repent" on my to-do list....right below > reading Tristram Shandy. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stylometry Which also reminds me of an SF short story - maybe in the old Omni magazine (of the bald-woman fetishizing covers...) - concerning some future wherein old music (and other things) was prohibited (don't remember why), whose main character (a musician) stumbles onto a stash of Mozart or something. Knowing that it was prohibited, and knowing that his own music would be analyzed to make sure he was obeying the laws, he scrupulously avoided using any devices in his compositions that would give away that he'd heard Mozart. Of course, he's caught: because the *absence* of Mozartian signifiers (some of which were previously present in his music, even though not through his having heard Mozart directly) became glaringly apparent. I suppose it's some sort of fable about dealing with the anxiety of influence... Nope - don't remember who wrote that one either (or if I'm getting details wrong). The list's SF heads can prevail. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 22:23:10 -0400 From: glenn mcdonald Subject: Re: [loud-fans] New Lyric Machine Oh, crap, this sounds totally familiar, but I can't remember the story or the writer either, and googling isn't working. Somebody help us! > Which also reminds me of an SF short story - maybe in the old Omni > magazine > (of the bald-woman fetishizing covers...) - concerning some future > wherein > old music (and other things) was prohibited (don't remember why), > whose main > character (a musician) stumbles onto a stash of Mozart or > something. Knowing > that it was prohibited, and knowing that his own music would be > analyzed to > make sure he was obeying the laws, he scrupulously avoided using > any devices > in his compositions that would give away that he'd heard Mozart. Of > course, > he's caught: because the *absence* of Mozartian signifiers (some of > which > were previously present in his music, even though not through his > having > heard Mozart directly) became glaringly apparent. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:58:36 -0700 From: Tim Walters Subject: Re: [loud-fans] New Lyric Machine > Which also reminds me of an SF short story - maybe in the old Omni > magazine > (of the bald-woman fetishizing covers...) - concerning some future > wherein > old music (and other things) was prohibited (don't remember why), > whose main > character (a musician) stumbles onto a stash of Mozart or something. "Unaccompanied Sonata" by Orson Scott Card. I really, really didn't like it. But lots of otherwise reasonable people did. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 23:48:59 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: [loud-fans] New Lyric Machine On 7/26/06, Tim Walters wrote: > > > Which also reminds me of an SF short story - maybe in the old Omni > > magazine > > (of the bald-woman fetishizing covers...) - concerning some future > > wherein > > old music (and other things) was prohibited (don't remember why), > > whose main > > character (a musician) stumbles onto a stash of Mozart or something. > > "Unaccompanied Sonata" by Orson Scott Card. > > I really, really didn't like it. But lots of otherwise reasonable > people did. Sounds right... I don't remember whether I liked it - or of course if I liked it then whether I'd still like it now. I just remember the plot, apparently. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V6 #145 *******************************