From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V6 #142 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Saturday, July 22 2006 Volume 06 : Number 142 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [loud-fans] mavis ["Larry Kooper" ] [loud-fans] Re: Graham Smith [glensarvad@aol.com] Re: [loud-fans] Re: Graham Smith [Aaron Mandel ] Re: [loud-fans] Re: Graham Smith [GlenSarvad@aol.com] Re: [loud-fans] Re: Graham Smith [Aaron Mandel ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 09:52:30 -0400 From: "Larry Kooper" Subject: [loud-fans] mavis What parent doesn't worry about terrorism? :) On 7/19/06, 2fs wrote: > > On 7/19/06, Larry Kooper wrote: > > > > > > I'm with Janet, I think Mavis is Scott's daughter. > > > > Such a debate: is it the Twin Towers or the baby? > > [snip] > > -- > > ...Jeff Norman > > The Architectural Dance Society > http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 13:47:48 -0400 From: glensarvad@aol.com Subject: [loud-fans] Re: Graham Smith My copy of Final Battle shows a 2004 copyright, and it appears from the March Records website that the label has suspended operations (when did this happen?), so perhaps this is a reissue. Said website also listed it as one of its relatively current releases, so who knows? I had a promo, and it wouldn't be the first time a GS release got pushed. My blood pressure still rises when I think about how I was about to issue a rave review in CMJ of Kleenex Girl Wonder's "Graham Smith Is the Strongest Man Alive" when March claimed the self-released record was old news, that Ponyoak would be out in 2 months, and promptly shipped me a home-burned copy. Instead my review of Ponyoak ran, and the disc was released about 14 months later.... Other tidbits: supposedly a new Smith title (Yes, Boss) is imminent on a new March successor imprint, and according to Smith's Myspace page he's playing a date with a band in NYC this Sunday. >First impression: Spot on. In several places it reminds me more than a bit >of Neutral Milk Hotel (which is high praise from me) I do kinda wish he'd >done a couple more takes and/or editing - the timing issues e.g., on "2 >guitars" and vocal pitch issues e.g., on "let the eagle soar" get in the way >of my enjoyment of the songs. But I'm far from sorry I downloaded it. - ------------------------------ ________________________________________________________________________ Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 15:44:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Re: Graham Smith On Fri, 21 Jul 2006, glensarvad@aol.com wrote: > Other tidbits: supposedly a new Smith title (Yes, Boss) is imminent on a > new March successor imprint, It's a good thing Skippy McFadden is so good at following through on things, because I can't WAIT to hear the 150-song KGW box set he mentions on the March Records myspace page. *gnashes teeth* A few years ago, during the brief existence of mocrecords.com, I got the reissue of Kleenex Girl Wonder's "Old-Timer Loose In Mustard Springs", from back in Graham Smith's GBV-worship phase. It was 70+ tracks, and the level of filler wasn't crippling, so I can easily believe a 150-song box exists; whether it will be reproduced and distributed, though... a ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 21:38:50 EDT From: GlenSarvad@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Re: Graham Smith I was trying to be civil and leave names out of it, but...Skippy has impressive taste in music but it's remarkable he was able to run a label for as long as he did. And more remarkable yet that folks like Smith seem willing to follow him to this Zero One Infinity imprint. I had Smith pegged as a top-drawer talent in the making back around "Strongest Man Alive," but despite putting together a decent catalog he hasn't really, er, matured or progressed. Perhpas it's as pointless as trying to handicap 13-year old tennis phenoms. But I wonder how much sticking with March (and lacking anything even remotely resembling an editor) hurt him. Dusting off Final Battle, I noticed that he got to the "My So-Called Secret Life" title conceit before Joe Pernice did. aaron@eecs.harvard.edu writes: It's a good thing Skippy McFadden is so good at following through on things, because I can't WAIT to hear the 150-song KGW box set he mentions on the March Records myspace page. *gnashes teeth* A few years ago, during the brief existence of mocrecords.com, I got the reissue of Kleenex Girl Wonder's "Old-Timer Loose In Mustard Springs", from back in Graham Smith's GBV-worship phase. It was 70+ tracks, and the level of filler wasn't crippling, so I can easily believe a 150-song box exists; whether it will be reproduced and distributed, though... a ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 23:26:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Re: Graham Smith On Fri, 21 Jul 2006, GlenSarvad@aol.com wrote: > I was trying to be civil and leave names out of it, Yeah, sorry about that. Too many flamewars on the indiepop list and I started thinking of all this as common knowledge. > I had Smith pegged as a top-drawer talent in the making back around > "Strongest Man Alive," but despite putting together a decent catalog he > hasn't really, er, matured or progressed. You think so? I felt like After Mathematics was much more fully realized than, say, Sexual Harassment. And "Why I Write Such Good Songs" is something I think wouldn't have gotten written when he was 15. His thing for chart R&B, ironic or not, seemed to give him an aesthetic anchor balancing out the Robert Pollard fandom. Somewhere in there he also became a half-decent rapper, though I guess acquiring new skills isn't inherently mature. a ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V6 #142 *******************************