From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V6 #34 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Wednesday, February 8 2006 Volume 06 : Number 034 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [loud-fans] Game Theory Demos ["Paul King" ] Re: [loud-fans] on-topic discussion elsewhere [Dan Sallitt Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Game Theory Demos The torrents worked like a charm. Thank you very much. As for a comparison between the BSC and LN demos, they were pretty much as I expected them to be (although what was I expecting with cast-off demos not targeted at a buying public?). Much of BSC sounds like the actual album, although the "unknown" tracks were interesting. Parts of the "known" LN tracks were also interesting, and gives a peek into Scott's creative process, (how "The Waist and The Knees" used to be two songs, later fused into one, for example), and that is about it. There is nothing sensational about the findings, but I am not sure that anything sensational was ever intended. That being said, the recordings will merit many more listens yet. Paul King On 6 Feb 2006 at 17:13, Aaron Mandel (Aaron Mandel ) spaketh these wourdes: > On Mon, 6 Feb 2006, Aaron Mandel wrote: > > > Torrents for both sets of demos are here: > > > > http://kermit.ecloud.net/~aaron/gt-demo > > By the way, most of the things marked 'untitled' are not unheard songs. > Sadly. The BSC unlabeled tracks are largely takes of the bonus tracks from > Alias's reissue campaign, and the LN unlabeled tracks are instrumentals > from the album which I guess someone just didn't know the name of. > > I would have thought working versions of the Lolita Nation songs would be > the more interesting set, since LN is a more complicated album, but on > first listen the Big Shot Chronicles demos had a lot more variation from > their familiar forms. > > a > > > __________ NOD32 1.1395 (20060206) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 23:19:50 -0500 From: Dan Sallitt Subject: Re: [loud-fans] on-topic discussion elsewhere > Nobody seems to want to talk about movies, based on my most recent movie > post. That's sad. Sorry to leave you hanging, Andy, especially after your nice plug for ALL THE SHIPS AT SEA. Most of my email time these days is from an email account that loud-fans doesn't know about, so my posts bounce. I guess I should attend to that problem. I didn't see any of your top ten except for NOBODY KNOWS and THE HOLY GIRL. Martel is certainly interesting, but somehow I always feel as if I need to take a shower after seeing her movies.... If you count movies that had world premieres in 2005, my list would be: 1. THE FORSAKEN LAND (Vimukthi Jayasundara, Sri Lanka/France) 2. THE DEATH OF MR. LAZARESCU (Cristi Puiu, Romania) 3. FORTY SHADES OF BLUE (Ira Sachs, USA) 4. THE CHILD (Dardennes Bros., Belgium/France) 5. A TALE OF CINEMA (Hong Sang-Soo, South Korea) 6. THE WAYWARD CLOUD (Tsai Ming-Liang, Taiwan) 7. C.R.A.Z.Y. (Jean-Marc Vallee, Canada) 8. SA-KWA (Yi-kwan Kang, South Korea) 9. BACKSTAGE (Emmanuelle Bercot, France) 10. YOU BET YOUR LIFE (Antonin Svoboda, Austria) But if you count movies that had a 2005 Manhattan theatrical premiere of at least one week's duration: 1. LA FACE CACHEE DE LA LUNE (Robert Lepage, Canada) 2. OR (MON TRESOR) (Keren Yedaya, Israel) 3. FORTY SHADES OF BLUE (Ira Sachs, USA) 4. THE WORLD (Jia Zhang Ke, China) 5. HEAD-ON (Fatih Akin, Germany/Turkey) 6. MEMORIES OF MURDER (Bong Joon-Ho, South Korea) 7. PALINDROMES (Todd Solondz, USA) 8. TONY TAKITANI (Jun Ichikawa, Japan) 9. KEANE (Lodge Kerrigan, USA) 10. CAPOTE (Bennett Miller, USA) And if I count only the American subset of the 2005 Manhattan theatrical etc.: 1. FORTY SHADES OF BLUE (Ira Sachs) 2. PALINDROMES (Todd Solondz) 3. KEANE (Lodge Kerrigan) 4. CAPOTE (Bennett Miller) 5. GRIZZLY MAN (Werner Herzog) 6. A HOLE IN ONE (Richard Ledes) 7. GOOD NIGHT, AND GOOD LUCK (George Clooney) 8. JUNEBUG (Phil Morrison) 9. FUNNY HA HA (Andrew Bujalski) 10. ME AND YOU AND EVERYONE WE KNOW (Miranda July) THE FORSAKEN LAND starts out *really* slow and eventless, but I think Jayasundara (who was 27 when he made the film) may be a great director already - his control of the camera is awesome. It's supposed to open in NYC in June. LAZARESCU is opening here in April, and may get around a bit - it's getting great reviews on the festival circuit. It's a three-hour film about a very sick guy stuck in hospital bureaucracy...but it's really smart and entertaining, believe it or not. LA FACE CACHEE came and went in NYC in a week or two. Too bad, because it's both visually and verbally dazzling, and really funny and watchable. But the publicity materials used a bunch of Cyrillic characters, and I dunno, they didn't make the film look so appealing. Lepage is a famous Quebecois theater guy who does interesting films from time to time, but never before one this good. - - Dan ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V6 #34 ******************************