From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V5 #280 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Sunday, December 18 2005 Volume 05 : Number 280 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [loud-fans] Re: loud-fans-digest V5 #279 [GlenSarvad@aol.com] Re: [loud-fans] Re: loud-fans-digest V5 #279 [Aaron Mandel ] [loud-fans] LF vid [Jenny Grover ] Re: [loud-fans] LF vid [2fs ] Re: [loud-fans] saving the whales ["Stewart Mason" ] Re: [loud-fans] saving the whales ["Stewart Mason" ] Re: [loud-fans] Re: loud-fans-digest V5 #279 [Gil Ray ] [loud-fans] should I just give up? [2fs ] [loud-fans] Bands Reunited -- the _other_ perspective... [Dave Walker Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Re: loud-fans-digest V5 #279 On Sat, 17 Dec 2005, GlenSarvad@aol.com wrote: > Jeff's "hasn't happened to this degree before" comment has the inner > geek in me screaming "Michael Quercio!!," who was more commercially > prominent even if the collaboration never got as far. Is there any > recorded documentation of that lineup? Michael Quercio plays on the three rerecorded tracks of Tinker To Evers To Chance ("Beach State Rocking", "Bad Year At UCLA" and "Sleeping Through Heaven"). And I thought I remembered reading that "My Free Ride" was recorded by a proto-LF including Quercio. a ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 08:52:38 -0800 From: "Steve Holtebeck" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Re: loud-fans-digest V5 #279 On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 08:05:40 -0800, Aaron Mandel wrote: > On Sat, 17 Dec 2005, GlenSarvad@aol.com wrote: > >> Jeff's "hasn't happened to this degree before" comment has the inner >> geek in me screaming "Michael Quercio!!," who was more commercially >> prominent even if the collaboration never got as far. Is there any >> recorded documentation of that lineup? > > Michael Quercio plays on the three rerecorded tracks of Tinker To Evers > To Chance ("Beach State Rocking", "Bad Year At UCLA" and "Sleeping > Through Heaven"). And I thought I remembered reading that "My Free Ride" > was recorded by a proto-LF including Quercio. I think it was on a three-song demo with "Idiot Son" and "Inverness", which was recorded around the same time as the rerecorded TEC tracks, when they were still called Game Theory. There's also "The Come On", the Miller/Quercio song from Slouching Toward Liverpool, but I don't think that was cut until later., post-MQ - -Steve ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 14:09:59 -0500 From: "Stewart Mason" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Re: loud-fans-digest V5 #279 - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Mandel" >> > Michael Quercio plays on the three rerecorded tracks of Tinker To > Evers To Chance ("Beach State Rocking", "Bad Year At UCLA" and > "Sleeping Through Heaven"). And I thought I remembered reading that > "My Free Ride" was recorded by a proto-LF including Quercio. And let's not forget the seasonally appropriate "A Child's Christmas Saving the Whales," which also includes Quercio's "Water," easily the best song he wrote between ARRIVE WITHOUT TRAVELING and Permanent Green Light's "We Could Just Die." S ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 14:49:42 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Re: loud-fans-digest V5 #279 On 12/17/05, Stewart Mason wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Aaron Mandel" >> > > Michael Quercio plays on the three rerecorded tracks of Tinker To > > Evers To Chance ("Beach State Rocking", "Bad Year At UCLA" and > > "Sleeping Through Heaven"). And I thought I remembered reading that > > "My Free Ride" was recorded by a proto-LF including Quercio. > > And let's not forget the seasonally appropriate "A Child's Christmas > Saving the Whales," which also includes Quercio's "Water," easily the > best song he wrote between ARRIVE WITHOUT TRAVELING and Permanent > Green Light's "We Could Just Die." That is indeed a good one. Too bad the Miller/Quercio band never released a proper recording (i.e., not counting the above non-album releases). - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 12:51:49 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: Steve Holtebeck Subject: [loud-fans] saving the whales >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Aaron Mandel" >> >> Michael Quercio plays on the three rerecorded tracks of Tinker To >> Evers To Chance ("Beach State Rocking", "Bad Year At UCLA" and >> "Sleeping Through Heaven"). And I thought I remembered reading that >> "My Free Ride" was recorded by a proto-LF including Quercio. > >And let's not forget the seasonally appropriate "A Child's Christmas >Saving the Whales," which also includes Quercio's "Water," easily the >best song he wrote between ARRIVE WITHOUT TRAVELING and Permanent >Green Light's "We Could Just Die." I don't know how I forgot that stuff, especially this time of year. Both "Child's Christmas Saving The Whales" and "Water" are available to download at http://www.loudfamily.com/music.html, in case anyone hasn't heard them yet, or in a long while.. If Stewart's still guest-hosting littlehits.com (and taking requests) these tracks might make a good contribution sometime during this next week. - -Steve, continuing the on-topic barrage of loud-fan posts ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 16:03:20 -0500 From: Jenny Grover Subject: [loud-fans] LF vid Is anyone still able to actually play the "Don't Respond" vid up at Yahoo? I hit it after reading that IbC review, and we can't get it to play at all. We've tried at least 5 different browsers on two different OS (admittedly we don't have any Windows PCs around, but we did try IE). We get a variety of error messages, several of which tell us we need some quite ancient version of Netscape which, of course, is no longer to be found, and the newer versions won't play it. Jen ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 15:12:05 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: [loud-fans] LF vid On 12/17/05, Jenny Grover wrote: > Is anyone still able to actually play the "Don't Respond" vid up at > Yahoo? I hit it after reading that IbC review, and we can't get it to > play at all. We've tried at least 5 different browsers on two different > OS (admittedly we don't have any Windows PCs around, but we did try > IE). We get a variety of error messages, several of which tell us we > need some quite ancient version of Netscape which, of course, is no > longer to be found, and the newer versions won't play it. No luck here. I do have an actual VCR tape of it - someone with both the technological means and the equipment ought to make a DVD of the handful of videos out there...(hint hint). - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 16:10:53 -0500 From: "Stewart Mason" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] saving the whales - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Holtebeck" > Both "Child's Christmas Saving The Whales" and "Water" are available > to download at http://www.loudfamily.com/music.html, in case anyone > hasn't heard them yet, or in a long while.. If Stewart's still > guest-hosting > littlehits.com (and taking requests) these tracks might make a good > contribution sometime during this next week. As it happens, "Water" is already in the pipeline, so to speak. It should be appearing on Little Hits sometime in the next week or so, along with Sleepyhead's Neil Young-meets-Teenage Fanclub cover of "Like A Girl Jesus" and, chosen basically at random, "I'm Not Really A Spring," among various other goodies. Jon Harrison, who hosts and runs Little Hits, has previously included a couple of GT/LF tunes over the course of the last year. Incidentally, tomorrow's entry is in tribute to Kirsty MacColl, who was killed five years ago Sunday. S NP: Steve Holtebeck's annual Christmas mix ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:01:49 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: [loud-fans] saving the whales On 12/17/05, Stewart Mason wrote: > > As it happens, "Water" is already in the pipeline, so to speak. It > should be appearing on Little Hits sometime in the next week or so, > along with Sleepyhead's Neil Young-meets-Teenage Fanclub cover of > "Like A Girl Jesus" and, chosen basically at random, "I'm Not Really A > Spring," among various other goodies. Jon Harrison, who hosts and > runs Little Hits, has previously included a couple of GT/LF tunes over > the course of the last year. Which reminds me: why is it that the site lists "Song of the Day" for some date two weeks in the past? Why isn't it just the "Song of the Day" for, uh, today? Of course, you're just the guest-poster, so maybe you have no idea either - but I thought I'd ask. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 20:28:02 -0500 From: "Stewart Mason" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] saving the whales - ----- Original Message ----- From: "2fs" > Which reminds me: why is it that the site lists "Song of the Day" > for > some date two weeks in the past? Why isn't it just the "Song of the > Day" for, uh, today? Of course, you're just the guest-poster, so > maybe > you have no idea either - but I thought I'd ask. For the same reason some of his friends have temporarily taken over as guest hosts: Jon's a busy guy who has fallen way behind over the course of the year due to real-world commitments. He's actually caught up a bit: he's only 19 days behind now, but when several of us started guest-hosting a few weeks ago, he was 23 days off. He swears that there will be 365 songs up by year's end. It's a time-consuming process -- if I didn't already have the mp3 files in iTunes (so all I have to do is write them up and scan the cover images), I wouldn't have time to do it myself, and even then, I've been taking shortcuts. My last 13 submissions were lifted directly from the swap CD I just sent out to Andrea. S ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 19:40:33 -0800 (PST) From: Gil Ray Subject: Re: [loud-fans] LF vid That would be cool! I do remember the GT videos, but what I don't remember is how many videos LF made. Was Don't Respond the only one? Gil - --- 2fs wrote: > On 12/17/05, Jenny Grover > wrote: > > Is anyone still able to actually play the "Don't > Respond" vid up at > > Yahoo? I hit it after reading that IbC review, > and we can't get it to > > play at all. We've tried at least 5 different > browsers on two different > > OS (admittedly we don't have any Windows PCs > around, but we did try > > IE). We get a variety of error messages, several > of which tell us we > > need some quite ancient version of Netscape which, > of course, is no > > longer to be found, and the newer versions won't > play it. > > No luck here. > > I do have an actual VCR tape of it - someone with > both the > technological means and the equipment ought to make > a DVD of the > handful of videos out there...(hint hint). > > -- > > ...Jeff Norman > > The Architectural Dance Society > http://spanghew.blogspot.com Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 20:00:33 -0800 (PST) From: Gil Ray Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Re: loud-fans-digest V5 #279 - --- Steve Holtebeck wrote: > I think it was on a three-song demo with "Idiot Son" > and "Inverness", > which was recorded around the same time as the > rerecorded TEC tracks, > when they were still called Game Theory. There's > also "The Come On", > the Miller/Quercio song from Slouching Toward > Liverpool, but I don't > think that was cut until later., post-MQ > > -Steve Whoa. Thanks for the recap of things I'd completely forgotten! I sorta remember that we were in a studio and recorded stuff, but the guitar parts that I did live were handed back over to Scott to play during those sessions, but I did do keyboards and percussion (that I PAINFULLY could not recreate during the P&BRT's sessions...grrrrr........) I THINK we also recorded Jimmy Stll Comes Around, but I could be very wrong on that..What I DO remember is that live, we played the following songs from P&BRTs: Sword Swallower Jimmy Still Comes Around Idiot Son Some Grand Visions etc.... Inverness The Second Grade Applauds Damn! I think we did do demos of most of these,,,I'll look for 'em. Remember cassettes?! Gil - --- Steve Holtebeck wrote: > I think it was on a three-song demo with "Idiot Son" > and "Inverness", > which was recorded around the same time as the > rerecorded TEC tracks, > when they were still called Game Theory. There's > also "The Come On", > the Miller/Quercio song from Slouching Toward > Liverpool, but I don't > think that was cut until later., post-MQ > > -Steve Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 23:30:41 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: [loud-fans] should I just give up? ...and not bother getting the most recent Posies album? I haven't heard anything from it - but I've heard a raft of negative opinions on it, and I can recall only one positive mention from anyone (can't remember who or where). Have they utterly lost it? - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 02:27:40 -0500 From: Dave Walker Subject: [loud-fans] Bands Reunited -- the _other_ perspective... I remember we talked a bit about this series when it first aired. Here's an interesting (negative) take on things from an ex-member of Information Society, where he goes into some depth about some of the uncool things that happen behind the scenes: http://insoc.org/texts/BandReunion.HTML Dave Walker dwalker@freeke.org ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V5 #280 *******************************