From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V5 #262 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Wednesday, November 23 2005 Volume 05 : Number 262 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [loud-fans] What some of you fools, myself included, might consider a Fun Read ["dennis mcgreevy" ] [loud-fans] Well...seemed pretty at the time. [Gil Ray Subject: [loud-fans] What some of you fools, myself included, might consider a Fun Read http://www.societymusictheory.org:16080/mto/issues/mto.05.11.4/mto.05.11.4.moore.html The link is to an article on how accompaniment adds meaning to text and persona in popular song. Regarding all remarks below: I haven't finished reading it yet, so don't expect me not to somehow attempt to weasel out of any position of opinion stated below, should anyone be bored enough to read the damn thing, let alone disagree with my below initial impressions, which are as yet mostly stylistic anyway. As is above subject header, this article is long. As in above subject header, this article contains pompous beat emphasis on Important Words, of which the author attempts to narrowly hone definitions in a way which drives this reader's "Must Split Hairs regarding the Absolute Centeredness-On-Edge of the author's own Very Specific Knife Sharpening of said Definitions when Gauge now Longwindedly being named within these quotation marks is In-The-Red Gauge." The author does not actually capitalize the words in question, but this reader maintains that it reads so, regardless. As said, less a rational indictment of the work than an abstract knee jerk. Unlike above subject header, nor the previous paragraph, there seems to be little attempt, however feeble, to be playful in use of overwrought grammar, which abounds, drily. If so inclined, Enjoy. - --Dennis _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 09:58:00 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: [loud-fans] What some of you fools, myself included, might consider a Fun Read On 11/22/05, dennis mcgreevy wrote: > http://www.societymusictheory.org:16080/mto/issues/mto.05.11.4/mto.05.11.4.moore.html > > The link is to an article on how accompaniment adds meaning to text and > persona in popular song. > As in above subject header, this article contains pompous beat emphasis on > Important Words, of which the author attempts to narrowly hone definitions > in a way which drives this reader's "Must Split Hairs regarding the Absolute > Centeredness-On-Edge of the author's own Very Specific Knife Sharpening of > said Definitions when Gauge now Longwindedly being named within these > quotation marks is In-The-Red Gauge." The author does not actually > capitalize the words in question, but this reader maintains that it reads > so, regardless. As said, less a rational indictment of the work than an > abstract knee jerk. > > Unlike above subject header, nor the previous paragraph, there seems to be > little attempt, however feeble, to be playful in use of overwrought grammar, > which abounds, drily. You had me at "fools." Anyway: yes, I actually read the article (okay: I skimmed it, since both its layout - too long across the screen - and its prose made actually reading every word rather difficult), and I mainly wonder the extent to which the almost comically stilted prose (passages remind me of _The Onion_, or some of those _McSweeney's_ bits wherein, say, an attorney representing the woman sung about in "Louie Louie" responds to the singer's claims) is the writer's stylistic choice, or is more or less imposed by its venue (an academic journal). Damn it, there's something about reading that stuff that destroys a reader's own syntax. Anyway. The really odd thing is that the organization of the article utterly minces the meat of making sense of genre as "accompaniment," since the author jumps wildly from Led Zeppelin to Patsy Cline to Cornish folk tunes to Vanessa Carlton to the Beach Boys. A reader unfamiliar with much of the music he cites (and, if that means "not familiar with every one of the songs he cites," that would be just about everybody) wouldn't be able to make sense of the way genre influences interpretation, simply because of his randomly broad selection of illustrations. Regardless, if these ideas were explored in Prose That People Can Actually Read, they might be interesting. Yes, you can analyze things to death...but it's also interesting to examine why it is we react the way we do to the specifics of musical accompaniment, and how musicians (consciously or un-) work to achieve those effects. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 14:23:10 -0500 From: Larry Tucker Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Kingsbury Manx On 11/21/05, Jenny Grover wrote: > > Steve Holtebeck wrote: > > > Is anyone familiar with this band's back catalog? THE FAST RISE AND > > FALL OF THE SOUTH, has quickly elevated itself > > to "best thing I've heard this year" status, and with a few tracks > > left on my November Emusic booster pack, I'm wondering > > which of their albums to get next. They've put out four full-length > > albums and one EP since 2000, so I don't know how they > > managed to stay beneath my radar for all that time. > > > > I have Aztec Discipline, as well as Fast Rise, and I recommend it if you > like Fast Rise, though it's less waltzy and a bit more indie rock. Pelz > Komet is one of my faves from it, and you can hear it here > > I agree Jen. I got their first album when in came out back in 2000 'cause everyone around here was raving about them, but I just didn't get it. A follwup live show only reinforced that judgement. Their next album LET YOU DOWN was OK but didn't move me, so I pretty much wrote them off. I was pretty bored with their sound which I found a little precious, but that was yesterday - now, with their last two albums I've come to like them a lot with their increasing sense of melody and hooks which now leave a lasting impression, and not a feeling of "what did I just listem to for the last 40 minutes". Larry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 20:15:52 -0800 (PST) From: Gil Ray Subject: [loud-fans] Well...seemed pretty at the time. Hey gang - an update on the recording process I'm going through (or should I say WE'RE going through?!) Anyway, here we go again. This song - The Big Hitch - is an attempt to do a song that is stripped down; something that holds up as just a guy and an acoustic guitar. Tough assignment, but I felt I needed to go for it and to see if I could do one. It's a tale of some poor f**k that hits a wrong button, and finds himself in the year 2085. (yeah, I know...shoulda been 2525!). The future ain't what he thought it would be, and he's sorry he's there. Just needed one more last kiss.... It's pretty slow, and in my favorite time signature - 3/4. Nice chord progression, too. Melody is not too bad, either. The challenge was to not go with obvious arrangement traps that scream out to me - put some BIG ASS DRUM beats in there! GIANT POWER CHORDS MUST BE IN iT! Make it BIG! I resisted, and it came out as I intended. Pretty simple, a few overdubs (tasteful guitar solo, and a cool bass/harpsicord thing during the chourus). Vocals went ok. Only 1 funky note that I will live with. Yoko sez it's my best vocal yet. Easy mix, sounds ok, pretty song. Cool. Not cool. I then heard Judee Sill's Heart Food. I am destroyed. How in the world could I possibly think I could write a pretty song. This is some of the most beautiful music I have ever heard. Andy Partridge seems to agree. So does Bradley. I played this for Stacey and cried. I'm hearing it now and tears are in my eyes. How dare I make a record! How dare God let her die? (well...to be fair, heroin helped....) I love Judee Sill and Stacey seems to be ok with that. Bradley! Has Scott heard her? Gil __________________________________ Yahoo! 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