From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V5 #176 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Tuesday, July 19 2005 Volume 05 : Number 176 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [loud-fans] hilarious liner note ["Aaron Milenski" ] Re: [loud-fans] hilarious liner note ["Aaron Milenski" ] Re: [loud-fans] hilarious liner note ["Aaron Milenski" ] Re: [loud-fans] hilarious liner note [Jeff ] Re: [loud-fans] Insound scan [Aaron Mandel ] Re: [loud-fans] hilarious liner note [Steve Schiavo Subject: [loud-fans] hilarious liner note Trivia: Can anyone name this liner note? "Technical Note: Due to the amount of music on this disc (over one hour), two points must be emphasized. Firstly, if your needle is worn or damaged, it will ruin this disc immediately. Secondly, if the sound does not seem loud enough on your system, try re-recording the music onto tape. By the way, thanks for buying the album." A clue: It's from a single LP that's actually longer that the same artist's previous album, which was a double LP... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 11:18:35 -0700 (PDT) From: "Tim Walters" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] hilarious liner note > Trivia: Can anyone name this liner note? Wild guess, probably wrong: Todd Rundgren, A WIZARD, A TRUE STAR? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 14:26:02 -0400 From: Dan Schmidt Subject: Re: [loud-fans] hilarious liner note Aaron Milenski wrote: > Trivia: Can anyone name this liner note? > > "Technical Note: Due to the amount of music on this > disc (over one hour), two points must be emphasized. > Firstly, if your needle is worn or damaged, it will ruin this > disc immediately. Secondly, if the sound does not seem > loud enough on your system, try re-recording the music > onto tape. By the way, thanks for buying the album." > > A clue: It's from a single LP that's actually longer > that the same artist's previous album, which was > a double LP... A Wizard, a True Star? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 14:32:16 -0400 From: "Aaron Milenski" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] hilarious liner note > > "Technical Note: Due to the amount of music on this > > disc (over one hour), two points must be emphasized. > > Firstly, if your needle is worn or damaged, it will ruin this > > disc immediately. Secondly, if the sound does not seem > > loud enough on your system, try re-recording the music > > onto tape. By the way, thanks for buying the album." > > A clue: It's from a single LP that's actually longer > > that the same artist's previous album, which was > > a double LP... >Would it be Todd Rundgren's "Initiation"? Yep, that's it. I find the note fascinating...they might as well say "the record you're about to listen to sounds like crap because we tried to cram way too much music onto it." I guess the label told him "no more double LPs" so he made this "compromise?" This album was WAY ahead of its time. Some examples: - --The opening "Real Man" is pure 80s synth pop. My wife actually left the room when I played it because she thought the song was so awful. I can't think of another song that sounds like that from this time period (1975), or even from the next five or six years. - --somewhere in the middle of side two are a bunch of industrial- sounding noises. - --69 minutes is about the length of today's average everyday CD. For some reason, this seems to be the Rundgren album that fell through the cracks--I've read many reviews of all of his other 70s albums over the years, but never of this one until a few weeks ago. I wonder why. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 14:36:06 EDT From: LeftyZ@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] hilarious liner note In a message dated 7/18/2005 11:14:40 AM Pacific Standard Time, amilenski@hotmail.com writes: Trivia: Can anyone name this liner note? "Technical Note: Due to the amount of music on this disc (over one hour), two points must be emphasized. Firstly, if your needle is worn or damaged, it will ruin this disc immediately. Secondly, if the sound does not seem loud enough on your system, try re-recording the music onto tape. By the way, thanks for buying the album." A clue: It's from a single LP that's actually longer that the same artist's previous album, which was a double LP... AWATS? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 14:46:49 EDT From: LeftyZ@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] hilarious liner note In a message dated 7/18/2005 11:36:36 AM Pacific Standard Time, amilenski@hotmail.com writes: >Would it be Todd Rundgren's "Initiation"? Yep, that's it Well....OK....HERE'S the one from AWATS: Important Notice I'm sure you've heard this before, but due to the fact that you can only put so much music on a piece of plastic before you start to loose (sic) some of the sound, and due to the fact that I have exceeded what is considered the practical norm by at least 6 or 7 minutes per side, you will probably want to crank up your Victrola as loud as it will go to get the full enjoyment contained on this here L.P. Thanks ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 14:48:11 -0400 From: "Aaron Milenski" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] hilarious liner note >Well....OK....HERE'S the one from AWATS: >Important Notice > >I'm sure you've heard this before, but due to the fact that you can only >put >so much music on a piece of plastic before you start to loose (sic) some >of >the sound, and due to the fact that I have exceeded what is considered the >practical norm by at least 6 or 7 minutes per side, you will probably want >to >crank up your Victrola as loud as it will go to get the full enjoyment >contained on this here L.P. > >Thanks The first Pretenders album also has a note about playing the album loud because it's extra-long. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 14:49:04 -0400 From: Michael Bowen Subject: Re: [loud-fans] hilarious liner note On 7/18/05, Aaron Milenski wrote: > > > A clue: It's from a single LP that's actually longer > > > that the same artist's previous album, which was > > > a double LP... IIRC, "Faithful", which featured one side of near note-perfect covers, came in-inbetween "Todd" and "Initiation". > >Would it be Todd Rundgren's "Initiation"? > > Yep, that's it. > > For some reason, this seems to be the Rundgren album > that fell through the cracks--I've read many reviews of all of his > other 70s albums over the years, but never of this one until a few > weeks ago. I wonder why. > I actually bought the album when it came out during my senior year at high school. (I bought it at a drug store - I probably paid $4.98). I don't remember much of it either, so obviously it made less of an impression than Ommadawn, Welcome Back My Friends, or Physical Grafitti. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 15:03:56 -0400 From: "Aaron Milenski" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] hilarious liner note >IIRC, "Faithful", which featured one side of near note-perfect covers, >came in-inbetween "Todd" and "Initiation". It actually came next after "Initiation." The first Utopia album was between "Todd" and "Initiation," though. That's also around 60 minutes. I don't have it so I have no idea if it has a similarly silly liner note. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 18:58:10 -0400 From: Michael Bowen Subject: [loud-fans] 3 Chicago musicians killed by suicidal driver http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8596704/ Michael Dahlquist of Silkworm, John Glick of The Returnables, and Douglas Meis of The Dials were killed when the car they were riding in was struck by someone trying to commit suicide-by-car. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 23:41:38 +0000 From: "Brian Block" Subject: [loud-fans] Insound scan I have a question for my music-addled fellow masses. As i'm currently poor, i've felt too cautious to follow up yet on some of the more interesting free MP3's i've found on the web lately. Has anyone bought the albums that go with these songs: Applied Communications, "Do You Know What I'm Saying?" Skeletons and Girl-Faced Boys, "Git" Static Age, "Ghosts" Troubled Hubble, "Ear, Nose & Throat" Wilderness, "Arkless" And, if so, how did the albums compare? curiously, - - Brian ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 19:30:40 -0500 From: Jeff Subject: Re: [loud-fans] hilarious liner note On 7/18/05, Aaron Milenski wrote: > The first Pretenders album also has a note about playing the album loud > because it's extra-long. Really? Because it's only 47 minutes long - lotsa LPs longer than that. Dylan LPs - even the early ones - tended to be pretty long. Some examples, from the CD versions and in my database: Freewheelin' : 50:03 Another Side...: 50:37 Highway 61 Revisited: 51:34 Even later in his career, _Blood on the Tracks_ is 51:49... See also: Genesis _A Trick of the Tail_ and _Wind & Wuthering_. I don't have either of the Rundgren albums mentioned on CD - although I did just pick up the (2-disc) _Something/Anything_, to go back a couple of LPs. Apparently, Todd felt it his duty to give people *more* than "an elpee's worth of tunes"... - -- ...Jeff The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 20:31:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Insound scan On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, Brian Block wrote: > Skeletons and Girl-Faced Boys, "Git" Somewhat disappointing-- about half the album has a similar texture but much less 'song' to it, and there are a few instrumentals that seemed thin to me. On an album that's only half an hour (iirc) that doesn't leave much. But nor is the rest of it bad, nor different than "Git" would make you believe. I also heard the Wilderness album, and remember it being all very much of a piece, but it kind of wore me out after a while. a ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 20:55:42 -0500 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Re: [loud-fans] hilarious liner note I can't help but see a lot of Todd in Johnny Depp's version of Willy Wonka. Probably just me. - - Steve ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 21:32:55 -0700 From: "Steve Holtebeck" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] hilarious liner note On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 17:30:40 -0700, Jeff wrote: > I don't have either of the Rundgren albums mentioned on CD - although > I did just pick up the (2-disc) _Something/Anything_, to go back a > couple of LPs. Apparently, Todd felt it his duty to give people *more* > than "an elpee's worth of tunes"... Like "an elpee's worth of tunes and an extra elpee's worth of outtakes" AWATS, TODD, and INITIATION could each easily be pruned down to regular elpee size without too much trouble, but four double-length LPs in four years is still a prolific run! - -Steve ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V5 #176 *******************************