From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V5 #169 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Tuesday, July 5 2005 Volume 05 : Number 169 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [loud-fans] reunion bells? [Aaron Mandel ] Re: [loud-fans] reunion bells? [Jenny Grover ] Re: [loud-fans] (Snoopy vs.) The Red Baron [Dennis Sacks Subject: Re: [loud-fans] reunion bells? On Mon, 4 Jul 2005, Jeff wrote: > One of us is wrong: here's the track listing at AMG, and it's "One > Long Pair of Eyes" that has a separately indexed intro: > . > > I guess we could both be wrong! I faintly remember this coming up recently (maybe at Fegmaniax instead of here?), and the intro is on The Kershaw Sessions, not on the A&M Greatest Hits. Bradley: it's not the "is this love?" round, it's an extra two stanzas before that which (by memory and by ear) go: Her service is perfect pain The agony of infection, oh I wait in my room again All ready for an injection, oh The sun on the castle falls Nurse stations on the enamel, oh Unsteadily there she crawls She's riding like a camel, o-oh Is this love? I totally love it. While the Kershaw Sessions CD is great, and available for non-insane prices on Amazon, if anyone just wants to hear this intro I can rip an mp3. a ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 17:33:27 -0400 From: Jenny Grover Subject: Re: [loud-fans] reunion bells? Aaron Mandel wrote: >I totally love it. While the Kershaw Sessions CD is great, and available >for non-insane prices on Amazon, if anyone just wants to hear this intro I >can rip an mp3. > > That would be great. Maybe then we could just tack it onto our "regular" copies on our iPods or something. It's a pain having to trot out old videotapes to hear it. Jen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 16:50:52 -0500 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Re: [loud-fans] blowups, blowjobs, hitchcock On Jul 4, 2005, at 2:15 PM, Dennis Sacks wrote: > I thought Perspex Island was weak, although it was cool seeing a > video for "So You Think You're In Love" on MTV. Tizzy recording aside, I love this album. But I know I'm in the minority. Bring back The Egyptians! - - Steve ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 15:26:14 -0700 (PDT) From: zoom@muppetlabs.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] reunion bells? > In a message dated 7/3/05 6:47:32 PM, jmmallon@joescafe.com writes: > I was blown away by -- totally incredulous at -- how horrible MTV/VH1 > coverage of Live 8 was. It was as if they waited until the the classicest > part of > the classicest songs, and then cut to the VJs......who were fawning and > banal > and just plain terrible Funny thing...twenty years ago after Live AID, people grumbled as above about the "major" network coverage. The MTV VJs fawned, banaled, and didn't seem have any facts straight, but MTV didn't give you Dick Clark popping up in front of the reunited Led Zeppelin. And by the way Jeff, that's "*I'll* get another piece of pie," Andy June 15 - 21, 2005 CD-R GO! Washed Out by John Darnielle Ana Gabriel, "En la Oscuridad" (Sony, 1990). HIM, "Join Me in Death" (BMG, 2000). Charlie McAlister, "Blood Coming Out of Your Scalp" (Tape Mountain, 2001). God Forbid, "Washed Out World" (Century, 2004). NoMeansNo, "A Little Too High" (Alternative Tentacles, 2000). Mount Everest Trio, "Orinoco" (Atavistic, 2000). Blacktop, "Planet Earth (@#*!!)" (In the Red, 2003). Alpha Blondy, "Sahel" (Shanachie, 1987). Don Omar, "Pobre Diabla" (mixtape). Barbara Morgenstern & Robert Lippock, "Sommer" (Monika). Bushwick Bill, "Who's the Biggest" (Rap-a-Lot, 1995). Anaal Nathrak, "I Wish I Could Vomit Blood on All You . . . People" (Season of Mist, 2004). Altered Images, "See Those Eyes" (Portrait, 1982). Dio, "The Last in Line" (Warner Bros., 1984). Gustav Mahler, "Phantasie aus Don Juan" (Fischer-Dieskau and Bernstein; Columbia, 1971 and 2000). . . . And in the wink of an eye, it's summer, and a young man's thoughts turn to nuclear winter and whether he might will it into being through the sheer libidinous force of his rage. Or so mine did my 16th year, when all I did was think about death all day. People would ask my girlfriend and me: "How come you're always depressed?" How else might we reply but: "Because it feels so damned good." I wing these songs backward through time to my teenaged self, who loved finding death like a black-turtlenecked Waldo hiding in even the most joyous moments. 1. Up-tempo. In Spanish. Can make ruthless tyrants cry like helpless babies. 2. This is about as cent percent as schmaltz gets, and self-respecting goths would prefer a little subtlety every now and again, but guess what? There are no more self-respecting goths. I feel this, anyway. 3. Sad songs say so much. 4. You know how screamo vocalists want you to feel like they're really right there on the edge, about to totally lose it? The dude in God Forbid is the Brando of this style. As a bonus, the clean vocals are smooth and undersold. 5. From an album that never got the love it deserved, a song that shoots bile from its eyes while nodding its head to a somewhat noodly bass-heavy beat. "Harrowing," as they say, but not looking to earn any merit badges for it. 6. Begins as semisamba jazz, then freaks out some. Meditative, after a fashion. 7. Mick Collins (the Gories, the Dirtbombs) does his thing. The guitar sound is worth approximately all your money. 8. I am a sucker for a beautiful voice. 9. A dozen great things about this song, but my favorite is that its title is the same as a Mexican soap opera I used to watch, whose theme song was almost as catchy as Don Omar's identically titled reggaeton sweat-fest. 10. What can I tell you, other than that every syllable Barbara Morgenstern utters should be passed into law? This breezy number from her collaboration with the guy from To Rococo Rot rules the universe, like everything else she does. 11. If Bushwick says he remembers recording this, he's lying. Everybody on board here is high on something. The groove: unstoppable. 1215. Under; around; over; through. - --from www.seattleweekly.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 18:44:10 -0400 From: "Sgt. Cockring" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] (Snoopy vs.) The Red Baron On 7/4/05, JRT456@aol.com wrote: > As you probably know firsthand, Sgt., Thank you for the show of respect, but the formality is not really necessary. Please, call me "Sarge." >it's not so much pussyfooting as just > cowardly and insecure douchebags behaving in their typically weaselly manner. > The republic will stand. > Naturally, Sgt. Cockring does not approve of disreputable scalliwags such as those you describe. You're damn right the republic will stand! Sgt. Cockring fears that perhaps he arrived too late to intervene in an unfortunate situation on this list, but Sgt. Cockring is a staunch, tireless defender of the rights of all popgeeks. As one might surmise, this has its roots in Sgt. Cockring's younger years. You see, in school, he was not so tolerant, and often beat up popgeeks, stole their lunch money, made them look foolish in front of girls, and the like. But, several years later, he realized that some of that fag music they were always on about was pretty cool after all. Since then, he has atoned for his youthful errors by defending popgeeks against bullying, lo even from other popgeeks. - --Sarge ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 23:15:32 -0400 From: Dave Walker Subject: Re: [loud-fans] a few thoughts On Jul 4, 2005, at 9:37 AM, Jeff wrote: > The pie chart just graphically established that, quickly, > with the added bonus of summing up (with the usual problems of pie > charts - paging Edward Tufte) everyone's recent frequency, Kenneth. > I'm all for sparklines in our subject headers :) http://tinyurl.com/8ygzl -d.w. ( I joke, I joke!) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 18:41:18 -0700 From: Dennis Sacks Subject: Re: [loud-fans] (Snoopy vs.) The Red Baron At Monday 7/4/2005 01:33 PM, Jenny Grover wrote: > >> Archives in general don't make me nervous. They're very useful and >> an be fun to read, as well. It just depends how they're used. BTW, >> how does one access the archives to this list anymore and were the >> "lost" ones ever restored? > At this point I think pretty much all we have are the smoe digest archives, which aren't particularly friendly. I used to personally archive all loud-fans posts as well as having us use escribe and another archive system that went away. Now, I don't care so much anymore. Dennis ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 22:57:28 -0500 From: Jeff Subject: Re: [loud-fans] (Snoopy vs.) The Red Baron On 7/4/05, Dennis Sacks wrote: > At this point I think pretty much all we have are the smoe digest > archives, which aren't particularly friendly. I used to personally > archive all loud-fans posts as well as having us use escribe and another > archive system that went away. Now, I don't care so much anymore. I have all Loud-fans posts since the beginning of time archived, labeled, cross-referenced, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed, numbered, folded, spindled, and mutilated. For blackmail purposes. Mostly, against myself, should I ever decide I can export vast sums from myself. - -- ...Jeff The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 22:23:49 -0600 From: Roger Winston Subject: Re: [loud-fans] (Snoopy vs.) The Red Baron At Monday 7/4/2005 09:57 PM, Jeff wrote: >For blackmail purposes. Mostly, against myself, should I ever decide I >can export vast sums from myself. I feel I must point out that you probably meant "extort" rather than "export". Unless of course you were trying for some sort of Millerian word play (in which case I'd have to say you failed). Latre. --Rog - -- Distance, Redefined: http://www.reignoffrogs.com/flasshe ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 01:10:39 EDT From: JRT456@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] (Snoopy vs.) The Red Baron You can still find those carefree, sunny escribe LoudFan days archived at the following URL, going back to maybe '99: http://escribe.com/music/loudfans/index.html Which reminds me: Have I been threatened with only three lawsuits over the years on this list, or am I forgetting some? ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V5 #169 *******************************