From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V5 #128 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Saturday, May 21 2005 Volume 05 : Number 128 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [loud-fans] Sloan ["jer fairall" ] Re: [loud-fans] Sloan ["Stewart Mason" ] [loud-fans] some self promo ["Vallor" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 14:57:44 -0400 From: "jer fairall" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Sloan Opinions on the band differ, I'm sure, but in my view Sloan's career is divided up into three distinct phases. In the first (SMEARED/TWICE REMOVED, as represented by tracks 1-4 on A SIDES WIN), they were a catchy if slightly generic typical early 90's alt.rock band. "Underwhelmed" is the clear highlight of this era-- and while I do sorta miss "Bells On" on this collection--the disc represents these two albums well enough that I doubt I'll ever feel the need to listen to either album again. In the second phase (ONE CHORD TO ANOTHER/NAVY BLUES/BETWEEN THE BRIDGES, tracks 5-11) they became for a while, I think, the world's best and most charming retro-pop act. This disc, again, represents this era rather well, though this being a literal singles collection, it leaves out several songs I would have chosen as more representative of the records ("Autobiography," "Chester The Molester," "The Marquee and the Moon"), which doesn't really matter as these albums are so great that they're worth purchasing even if you own this collection. The third phase (PRETTY TOGETHER/ACTION PACT, 12-14) is where they opted to become preening, ironic, glam-rock stars, and they pretty much lost me (in fact, hearing the excellent new track "Try To Make It," along with the allure of a bonus DVD, is what ended up selling me on this collection). I suppose, then, that my recommendation for figuring out whether you are just having a hard time getting into the band given the selection here or if you really do find them dull is to listen to tracks 5-11 in isolation and see if you like those better than the rest. If that works, program tracks 1 and 16 in for the next listen. Then go buy ONE CHORD TO ANOTHER, NAVY BLUES and/or BETWEEN THE BRIDGES and be happy that you already have "Underwhelmed" and "Try To Make It" here. Jer today's playlist, thus far: Elvis Costello, KING OF AMERICA; Marti Jones, "Put Me On Top," Aimee Mann, THE FORGOTTEN ARM; Amon Tobin, "Verbal (Prefuse 73 Dipped Escalade Mix)," Sloan, A SIDES WIN http://www.Care2.com Free e-mail. 100MB storage. Helps charities. Make a Difference: Tell U.S. Congress to stop hurting our health care! http://www.care2.com/go/z/healthcare ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 15:15:36 -0400 From: "Stewart Mason" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Sloan - ----- Original Message ----- From: "jer fairall" > Opinions on the band differ, I'm sure, but in my view Sloan's career > is divided up into three distinct phases. In the first > (SMEARED/TWICE REMOVED, as represented by tracks 1-4 on A SIDES > WIN), they were a catchy if slightly generic typical early 90's > alt.rock band. "Underwhelmed" is the clear highlight of this era "Underwhelmed" is great -- and like just about everyone else I know, was my first exposure to the band -- but for me, the absolute highlight of the first two Sloan albums (and with the exception of "The Good In Everyone," their entire career) is TWICE REMOVED's "People In The Sky." I assume that's on the singles comp, since I know there was a video (amusingly demonstrating how they chose who had to play drums on Andrew Scott's songs). S ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 13:59:05 -0700 From: "Vallor" Subject: [loud-fans] some self promo Hey Loud Fans, Sorry for the intrusion and the self promotion. I have a mountain of stuff on eBay right now at user name cassetto: click http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZcassetto See below for some of the titles (there are many more), auctions end Tuesday afternoon and evening. Thanks- Dan Vallor - -Game Theory- Fan Club Lyric And Photo Book Loud Family - -American Music Club- California CD Out Of Print - -Outrageous Cherry- Stereo Action Rent Party CD + Out There In The Dark CD - -Bright Eyes Fevers & Mirrors CD w/mirror insert - -Smiling Pets Beach Boys Japanese tribute CD w/ Jim O'Rourke, Olivia Tremor Control, Secret Chiefs 3, Melt-Banana, Thurston Moore, Seagull Screaming Kiss Her Kiss Her, David Grubbs, John McEntire, DM3 and more - -KXLU 88.9 DEMOLISTEN V 2 rare BECK HANSEN Sloth Sukia - -Guided By Voices Universal Truths CD + Hotel Cleveland #3 CD - -Half Japanese- 1/2 Gentlemen/Not Beasts 2 CD set OOP - -KFJC LIVE CD w/ Six Organs Of Admittance, Nikki Sudden, Ruins, Girl Boy Girl, Lake Of Dracula and more - -Knitting On The Roof (Fiddler tribute) CD with Magnetic Fields, The Residents, Negativland, Come (Thalia Zedek & Chris Brokaw), Eugene Chadbourne, David S. Ware, Elliott Sharp, Uri Caine and more - -Lounge Ax Defense CD with Yo La Tengo, Tortoise, Shellac, Guided By Voices, Archers of Loaf, The Mekons, The Rachel's & more - -Mars LP CD (No Wave from No New York) original tracks in their original form (unlike 78+) - -The Raincoats 1st on CD Post Punk - -The Raincoats Odyshape CD POST PUNK - -New York Dolls Too Much Too Soon CD Out Of Print - -Sprung Aus Den Wolken ROUNDANDAROUND CD - -KFOG Live From The Archives 2 w/ Richard Thompson, Del Amitri - -KFOG Live From The Archives 4 with WILCO, Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers - -Alastair Galbraith Head Soup Dream edition of 200 on Crawlspace - -Birchville Cat Motel- Fountain And The Love of Tokyo LATHE CUT 7" (and loads more related lathes) - -Nigel Bunn- Speaker Crackle In The Gardin LATHE 7" Alastair Glabraith Xpressway The Bats - -A Ripper Bunch Of Blokes 7 SPLIT ENZ side band RIPPER RECORDS - -Sandy Denny- Sandy LP Fairport Convention Fotheringay - -Sebadoh- Freed Man LP Homestead 17 SONGS NOT ON CD - -The Wake- Harmony LP (Factory Records) - -The La's 1st 2 records (Way Out 12"/There She Goes original version 7") + Miaow When It All Comes Down 12" - -Mary Margaret O'Hara 12" with 2 LIVE TRACKS plus bonus CD ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V5 #128 *******************************