From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V5 #106 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Thursday, April 28 2005 Volume 05 : Number 106 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [loud-fans] Smiths reissues/Mitch Easter [minemeno@antithetical.org] RE: [loud-fans] Doleful Lions ["Larry Tucker" > I'd love to see it, though--few catalogs are more deserving. << And few catalogs are riper with too-perfect naming opportunities -- the greatest hits should be called "Extra Track and a Tacky Badge," and the rarities disc (limited edition double pack inlduing you-know-what) should be entitled "They Cannot Taint You Now" - -- d. - ------------------------------------------------------ don't email the sender at this address; it won't work. (this address is used in cases where the email address is not adequately protected from abuses.) reply to list or contact via www.antithetical.org/minemeno ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 08:50:40 -0400 From: "Larry Tucker" Subject: RE: [loud-fans] Doleful Lions > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-loud-fans@smoe.org [mailto:owner-loud-fans@smoe.org] On Behalf > Of zoom@muppetlabs.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 7:03 PM > To: Stewart Mason > Cc: High-Volume Air-Circulation Devices > Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Doleful Lions > > >> AllMusic bills "Surfside Motel" as being written by Van Dyke Parks, > >> "B.J. Wilson," and Jonathan Scott (who's the DL guy). I can't find > >> any > >> other song of that title: is this a lyrical rewrite of some other > >> song, or what? Anyone? Stewart? Bueller? > >> > > The first verse of "Surfside Motel" quotes the opening line of "Heroes > > and Villains," and because the verse goes on to mention the album it > > comes from (I think the line is something like "Don't you know the > > government stopped the Beach Boys from releasing SMILE?"), Scott > > couldn't have claimed it wasn't a direct cop if the publishing company > > had made noises about a lawsuit. I'm sure the addition of Parks and > > Wilson to the writers credits was just a CYA move. Don't know who > > screwed up Brian's middle name in the credits, though, if it's like > > that on the album or it was bad copyediting at AMG. Which, of course, > > never happens. > > B.J. Wilson was the drummer for Procol Harum. He died in 1990, and is > subsequently unable to receive the royalties from "Surfside Motel." > > But he did secretly co-write "Heroes And Villains" when Mr. Brian D. > Wilson refused to leave his bed and bedside fridge. > > The government stopped you from knowing all this. > > Andy This is from direct from Jonathan Scott: I think the reason All Music lists B. Wilson and V.D. Parks as co writers is because I took one of the lines in the song from the song Heroes and Villians. "I've been in this town so long that back in the city...." In the CD sleeve I credit them for that line so that is why I think they give them songwriting credit. Jonathan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:53:05 EDT From: A52boy@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Smiths reissues/Mitch Easter In a message dated 4/26/05 9:55:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ltucker@townofchapelhill.org writes: It's the same band Mark, which is comprised of Mitch, Shalini and Eric Marshall. It is a different set of songs though, which focus on Mitch and not Shalini. The last several times I've seen Shalini play Jane Francis of a local band called Velvet has sat in on bass with Shalini moving to 2nd guitar, so there is a foutr piece version of that band. Mitch's version of the band which has gone under the name The Crackpots and later The Fiendish Minstrels is now just being referred to as Mitch Easter. Larry thanks! I remember Mitch mentioning Velvet after the Shalini set. I remember coming across a mention of The Crackpots some years back in a magazine article, but I never heard anything more, or saw a record or anything. I think "Mitch Easter and band" is good and fitting. He definitely deserves going by that moniker. Plus, it helps people who would remember his name and go and see him, but wouldn't give a thought going to see The Crackpots or The Fiendish Minstrels, unless they were in the know, and his fan base from the '80s for the most part is probably more in the know about mortgage rates and Veggie Tales DVDs these days (there were lots of kids at the Shalini show here). - --Mark ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V5 #106 *******************************