From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V5 #105 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Wednesday, April 27 2005 Volume 05 : Number 105 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [loud-fans] two pics from Scott's Epic show (Fri) [Chris Prew ] Re: [loud-fans] Doleful Lions ["Stewart Mason" ] [loud-fans] Smiths reissues/Mitch Easter [A52boy@aol.com] Re: [loud-fans] Doleful Lions [zoom@muppetlabs.com] RE: [loud-fans] Smiths reissues/Mitch Easter ["Larry Tucker" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] two pics from Scott's Epic show (Fri) Yeah, do you think Scott would mind if someone taped these shows and distributed to the list for download? For all us poor schlubs who don't live in the bay area? Pretty please? Chris On Apr 25, 2005, at 3:57 PM, Dennis Sacks wrote: > Tim Walters wrote: > >> The biggest surprise for me was "Total Mass Destruction." >> >> I agree that this was a particularly good show--I think playing >> electric >> suits him better than acoustic, even unaccompanied. >> > Did anyone tape the show? Steve? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:37:28 -0400 From: "Larry Tucker" Subject: RE: [loud-fans] two pics from Scott's Epic show (Fri) I'll second that Chris! Larry > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-loud-fans@smoe.org [mailto:owner-loud-fans@smoe.org] On Behalf > Of Chris Prew > Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 9:20 AM > To: Loud Fans > Subject: Re: [loud-fans] two pics from Scott's Epic show (Fri) > > Yeah, do you think Scott would mind if someone taped these shows and > distributed to the list for download? > > For all us poor schlubs who don't live in the bay area? Pretty please? > > Chris > > > > On Apr 25, 2005, at 3:57 PM, Dennis Sacks wrote: > > > Tim Walters wrote: > > > >> The biggest surprise for me was "Total Mass Destruction." > >> > >> I agree that this was a particularly good show--I think playing > >> electric > >> suits him better than acoustic, even unaccompanied. > >> > > Did anyone tape the show? Steve? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 13:44:49 -0500 From: Jeff Subject: [loud-fans] Doleful Lions I downloaded the Doleful Lions' _Out Like a Lamb_ from eMusic - and I really like it. Rather a surprise: I liked _The Rats Are Coming, The Wolves Are Here_ well enough...but this sounds rather different - almost like a Damon & Naomi record or something. I am curious, though: AllMusic bills "Surfside Motel" as being written by Van Dyke Parks, "B.J. Wilson," and Jonathan Scott (who's the DL guy). I can't find any other song of that title: is this a lyrical rewrite of some other song, or what? Anyone? Stewart? Bueller? - -- ...Jeff The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:30:05 -0400 From: "Stewart Mason" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Doleful Lions - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff" >I downloaded the Doleful Lions' _Out Like a Lamb_ from eMusic - and I > really like it. Rather a surprise: I liked _The Rats Are Coming, The > Wolves Are Here_ well enough...but this sounds rather different - > almost like a Damon & Naomi record or something. I am curious, > though: > AllMusic bills "Surfside Motel" as being written by Van Dyke Parks, > "B.J. Wilson," and Jonathan Scott (who's the DL guy). I can't find > any > other song of that title: is this a lyrical rewrite of some other > song, or what? Anyone? Stewart? Bueller? > The first verse of "Surfside Motel" quotes the opening line of "Heroes and Villains," and because the verse goes on to mention the album it comes from (I think the line is something like "Don't you know the government stopped the Beach Boys from releasing SMILE?"), Scott couldn't have claimed it wasn't a direct cop if the publishing company had made noises about a lawsuit. I'm sure the addition of Parks and Wilson to the writers credits was just a CYA move. Don't know who screwed up Brian's middle name in the credits, though, if it's like that on the album or it was bad copyediting at AMG. Which, of course, never happens. S ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:53:32 EDT From: A52boy@aol.com Subject: [loud-fans] Smiths reissues/Mitch Easter Maybe somebody may know. Since Rhino did the R.E.M. reissues and now the Cure reissues, it would only make sense they would complete the eighties' Holy Trinity and reissue Smiths albums (fall/Christmas time would seem perfect). Has anybody heard anything of the sort? It would seem like the right time, especially since Morrissey's career has been revitalized. MEAT IS MURDER in particular screams to be reissued, as the sound quality is pretty muddy compared to other Smiths albums. Also, the other day I heard WNCW's concert calendar and they announced "Mitch Easter and band" playing somewhere in the listening area, but I don't remember where. I think maybe Asheville. Mitch has a band outside of Shalini? News to me. Larry? - --Mark "How Can We Miss You If You Won't Go Away?: Ten years after she dry-heaved forth a torrent of prefabricated feminine angst with that ungodly 'You Oughta Know' song, Alanis Morissette is re-recording and acoustic version of JAGGED LITTLE PILL. Run for the exits!" (Stomp and Stammer magazine, April issue) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 16:03:17 -0700 (PDT) From: zoom@muppetlabs.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Doleful Lions >> AllMusic bills "Surfside Motel" as being written by Van Dyke Parks, >> "B.J. Wilson," and Jonathan Scott (who's the DL guy). I can't find >> any >> other song of that title: is this a lyrical rewrite of some other >> song, or what? Anyone? Stewart? Bueller? >> > The first verse of "Surfside Motel" quotes the opening line of "Heroes > and Villains," and because the verse goes on to mention the album it > comes from (I think the line is something like "Don't you know the > government stopped the Beach Boys from releasing SMILE?"), Scott > couldn't have claimed it wasn't a direct cop if the publishing company > had made noises about a lawsuit. I'm sure the addition of Parks and > Wilson to the writers credits was just a CYA move. Don't know who > screwed up Brian's middle name in the credits, though, if it's like > that on the album or it was bad copyediting at AMG. Which, of course, > never happens. B.J. Wilson was the drummer for Procol Harum. He died in 1990, and is subsequently unable to receive the royalties from "Surfside Motel." But he did secretly co-write "Heroes And Villains" when Mr. Brian D. Wilson refused to leave his bed and bedside fridge. The government stopped you from knowing all this. Andy Life is shortest for tiny reef fish Tue Apr 26, 9:51 AM ET Science - AFP SYDNEY (AFP) - A tiny reef fish which survives for up to 59 days has the shortest lifespan of any vertebrate animal, according to researchers in Australia. The discovery of the pygmy goby's lifespan has helped broaden understanding of the evolutionary limits of animal biology, according to a statement from James Cook University in the northeastern city of Townsville. Postgraduate student Martial Depczynski and Professor David Bellwood studied the life cycle of the pygmy goby (Eviota sigillata) on the Great Barrier Reef. The fish, which grows to between 11 and 20 millimetres (0.4 to 0.8 of an inch), lays down a series of daily rings in its otoliths or ear stones, helping researchers record lifespan. "We believe the extraordinary life cycle of pygmy gobies has probably evolved in response to the high mortality rates seen in small coral fish," Depczynski said in the statement. In such cases, he said, evolution often favoured a 'Live fast, die young strategy in which rapid growth and maturation compensates for reduced life expectancy. This theory was supported by the Turquoise killifish, which was previously thought to have the shortest lifespan among vertebrates (animals with a spinal cord). These live in rain pools in Africa and must finish their reproductive cycle before the pools dry up. Even though pygmy gobies survive less than two months, they lead a hectic life. "They hatch from minute eggs which are vigorously defended by the father," said Depczynski. "They then develop as ocean larvae for three weeks, nearly half of their lifetime, before settling on a coral reef where they grow to sexual maturity. "With a reproductive life span of just 25 days, the female pygmy goby lays only three clutches of around 136 eggs in a lifetime." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:51:38 -0400 From: "Larry Tucker" Subject: RE: [loud-fans] Smiths reissues/Mitch Easter - -----Original Message----- From: owner-loud-fans@smoe.org on behalf of A52boy@aol.com Sent: Tue 4/26/2005 5:53 PM To: loud-fans@smoe.org Subject: [loud-fans] Smiths reissues/Mitch Easter Maybe somebody may know. Since Rhino did the R.E.M. reissues and now the Cure reissues, it would only make sense they would complete the eighties' Holy Trinity and reissue Smiths albums (fall/Christmas time would seem perfect). Has anybody heard anything of the sort? It would seem like the right time, especially since Morrissey's career has been revitalized. MEAT IS MURDER in particular screams to be reissued, as the sound quality is pretty muddy compared to other Smiths albums. Also, the other day I heard WNCW's concert calendar and they announced "Mitch Easter and band" playing somewhere in the listening area, but I don't remember where. I think maybe Asheville. Mitch has a band outside of Shalini? News to me. Larry? - --Mark +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ It's the same band Mark, which is comprised of Mitch, Shalini and Eric Marshall. It is a different set of songs though, which focus on Mitch and not Shalini. The last several times I've seen Shalini play Jane Francis of a local band called Velvet has sat in on bass with Shalini moving to 2nd guitar, so there is a foutr piece version of that band. Mitch's version of the band which has gone under the name The Crackpots and later The Fiendish Minstrels is now just being referred to as Mitch Easter. Mitch just played Sparklefest in Chapel Hill this past Saturday night, cowboy hats and boots in tow. Larry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 22:13:21 -0700 From: "Bradley Skaught" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Smiths reissues/Mitch Easter I wonder whose call it would be to reissue the Smiths' catalog. Warner released that awful best-of a few years ago without any input from the band, so maybe the could do it. There's so much bad blood and litigation and who knows what else involved. It might be like the Beatles catalog--maybe it's just easier to sell the ones you got and not get all the Yokos and Pauls involved. I'd love to see it, though--few catalogs are more deserving. But goddamn it, the Sly & The Family Stone catalog is one of them! xo, B ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V5 #105 *******************************