From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V5 #102 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Saturday, April 23 2005 Volume 05 : Number 102 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [loud-fans] Speaking of fact checking... [A52boy@aol.com] [loud-fans] RE: Speaking of fact checking... ["Douglas Stanley" ] Re: [loud-fans] techie stuff [Jeff ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 03:02:09 EDT From: A52boy@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Speaking of fact checking... In a message dated 4/21/05 7:41:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gasp@aga.ca writes: Besides, it sure doesn't sound like bourgeois food, wouldn't you agree? I agree, it isn't bourgeois food. It's like saying "the Spam of the affluent." In the context of the song, I take it as meaning our girl is a humble pie surrounded by beautiful croissants. In my original subject heading, I meant it as food for rich Xers to slum by, while the other half live on ramen and ground up pig snouts. Dig? Here's the lyrics: Sunbeam shone, mousy girl on the end pew Youbd stay home, oh if only they let you Le pastie de la bourgeoisie Municipal pool, youbre a junior life saver But youbre friends are all serious ravers Le pastie de la bourgeoisie Reading judy blume But you came too soon Youbre too tall, much too tall for a boyfriend They run and hide, from your buck tooth and split ends Donbt be scared, like the books youbve read Youbre the heroine Youbll be doing fine Wouldnbt you like to get away? Bestowing the memory of good and evil On the ones you left behind The heartless swine And you love like nobody around you How you love, and a halo surrounds you Le pastie de la bourgeoisie In the autumn cool Say cheerio to school Listen dear, Ibve been watching you lately If I said all these things you would hate me Le pastie de la bourgeoisie At the church bazaar I nearly went too far Wouldnbt you like to get away? Give yourself up to the allure of Catcher in the rye The futurebs swathed in stars and stripes Wouldnbt you like to get away? Kerouacbs beckoning with open arms, And open roads of eucalyptus Westward bound Parts is parts, - --Mark np Eugenius OOMALAMA ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:55:08 -0700 From: "Douglas Stanley" Subject: [loud-fans] RE: Speaking of fact checking... I'm really disappointed in Mark here. I would have thought he's read every Diary/Q+A entry from Belle et al. Anyhow, the answer can be found here: http://www.belleandsebastian.com/qa_view.php?qaID=2031 Doug S. NP - Legal Man In case the link doesn't work - From: Lyn Q.There's been some speculation on the part of a lot of your fans as to what "Le Pastie" is (as in, de la bourgeoisie, of course). Some have said that the phrase was taken from graffiti that said "l'apathie de la bourgeoisie." If this is true, how did it morph into le pastie? We seem to have reached the consensus that it isn't a real word. I'm not a native speaker, but am pretty fluent in French, have consulted several dictionaries of different sorts, and my two finest professors, and the closest thing I can come up with is the word "pastis" which is a kind of wannabe classy liquer made with annisette. I think it could fit within the context of the song, the need to escape, etc., but I'm not so sure that was your original intent. So after discussing it exhaustively, I throw myself on your mercy. Thanks for letting me ramble, and also, will you marry me? The excerpt from Rip Van Winkle in I Could Be Dreaming is particularly delicious, and I could listen to your records incessantly. Please come back to the states soon? Particularly New York? A. Well, the graffiti in question didn't need to be morphed into anything. It was daubed on the side of a bakery in Byres Road - which from a certain point of view could be described as a bourgeois part of town. The bakery in question does sell pasties (chicken ones, cheese and onion ones, etc...) so maybe the author of the graffiti was just making a point about the pasties. But when I was in school, we read a dreadful book called 'La Cle Sur La Porte' which I'm sure had a reference to 'l'apathie de la bourgeoisie', and I always associated that with the song. Yeah, we'll be back. maybe next year. Sarah - 22/10/04 - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 10:51:02 -0400 From: Richard Gagnon Subject: [loud-fans] Speaking of fact checking... What exactly is "le pastie de la bourgeoisie" supposed to mean? Do you mean "pastis", the licorice-flavored drink, or is this "pastie" something I'm not aware of? If it's "partie", it should be *la* partie, and it would be "soirie" (or "party") anyway. If it's "partie" as in "a part of", then your sentence is incomplete. I doubt that using Belle and Sebastian as a reference for French won't lead you astray. Richard ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:34:40 EDT From: A52boy@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] RE: Speaking of fact checking... In a message dated 4/22/05 1:05:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dstanley@broadcom.com writes: I'm really disappointed in Mark here. I would have thought he's read every Diary/Q+A entry from Belle et al. Anyhow, the answer can be found here: http://www.belleandsebastian.com/qa_view.php?qaID=2031 Doug S. NP - Legal Man Ubergeek hangs his head in shame.... I haven't looked at that site in months, and I haven't looked at all of it. Thanks for finding that. - --Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 19:08:00 -0400 From: "jer fairall" Subject: [loud-fans] techie stuff Does anyone know how to transfer vinyl into MP3 (or whatever) files? Preferrably using something of the free, online variety? Thanks! Jer np: Falconhawk, HERE'S YOUR GHOST http://www.Care2.com Free e-mail. 100MB storage. Helps charities. Make a Difference: Stop Canada's cruel and senseless baby seal hunt! http://www.care2.com/go/z/saveseals ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 18:34:34 -0500 From: Jeff Subject: Re: [loud-fans] techie stuff On 4/22/05, jer fairall wrote: > Does anyone know how to transfer vinyl into MP3 > (or whatever) files? Preferrably using something > of the free, online variety? There used to be a site that covered all of this - try googling relevant phrases. Anyway: basically, you need a way to (a) get the sound from your turntable into your computer at a reasonable volume and (b) digitize it. Turntables output sound at a lower level than CD players, cassette decks, etc. - and w/o a phono preamp, you won't be able to hear it. There are cheap phono preamps at Radio Shack (~$20 US), although better ones that include grounding posts, say, are available for about twice that (and more). I just got one from phonopreamps.com, the TC-750. Although when I say "just got," I'm being quite literal: it arrived a couple days ago, and I've been too busy to test it out. Anyway, assuming your computer has an input where you can plug in yr typical jacks from the turntable (you might need an adapter - again, a couple bucks at Radio Shack), now you need software that'll record digitally. I forget which sound recorder comes w/Windows machines these days - but it's not all that good, as I recall, and gives you few features. Since you'll probably want to be ripping CD tracks anyway, I'd recommend Exact Audio Copy (it's free), at http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/, which includes a .WAV recorder. If you want to make mp3s or other compressed files, I'd recommend LAME. EAC includes a link to download LAME itself (which runs in the background) as well as a front-end called RazorLame and what seems to be a pretty high-quality mp3-making set-up by a guy called Chris Myden (again: linked from the "unofficial" EAC site within EAC's help menu). That works for me, anyway. If you want to do more, and start actually editing your sound files, I've used GoldWave (www.goldwave.com) which is about $40 US. It's a Canadian outfit, too, if yr feeling patriotical! So: not really "free" - but not all that expensive either. - -- ...Jeff The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V5 #102 *******************************