From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V5 #100 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Thursday, April 21 2005 Volume 05 : Number 100 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [loud-fans] That's a Surprise - On Topic [Chris Prew ] [loud-fans] Re: That's a Surprise - On Topic [Holly Kruse ] Re: [loud-fans] le pastie de la bourgeoisie (while I eat potted meat and rame... [A52bo] Re: [loud-fans] le pastie de la bourgeoisie (while I eat potted meat and rame... ["Stewart Mason" ] Re: [loud-fans] Fact Check [Jeff ] Re: [loud-fans] le pastie de la bourgeoisie (while I eat potted meat and rame... [Francis J H Park ] [loud-fans] New Miyazaki film (NS) [steve ] Fwd: [loud-fans] On-topic! [Mike Curley ] Re: [loud-fans] le pastie de la bourgeoisie (while I eat potted meat and rame... [A52bo] Re: [loud-fans] le pastie de la bourgeoisie (while I eat potted meat and rame... [Jenny Grover Subject: Re: [loud-fans] That's a Surprise - On Topic > P.S.: Has anyone heard anything by Elizabeth Harper or The Silent > League? They're opening for The Trashcan Sinatras at the Mercury > Lounge on Saturday, and I'm curious if either of them are absolute > do-not-miss acts. > > The Silent League is a decent enough orchestral pop unit -- their album "The Orchestra, Sadly, has Refused" is on Emusic. Kind of a poor man's Mercury Rev or Flaming Lips, but I don't think they are the equal of either of those bands. Might be worth checking out if you're into that sort of thing. Chris http://causalvirtue.blogspot.com P.s. The new Mercury Rev is a bit more accessible (i.e., straight up pop) than previous outings. Not sure if that's a good or a bad thing, a few more listens will tell ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:01:38 EDT From: DOUDIE@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] That's a Surprise - On Topic In a message dated 4/19/05 7:55:48 PM, bowenm@gmail.com writes: > P.S.: Has anyone heard anything by Elizabeth Harper or The Silent > League? They're opening for The Trashcan Sinatras at the Mercury > Lounge on Saturday, and I'm curious if either of them are absolute > do-not-miss acts. > Elizabeth Harper is great. She's a cohort of Tris Mccall's but that doesn't work as a musical reference. You can easily find reviews of her at trismccall.net... but a female Morrissey is a great reference point. She's a very unique lyricist too. I've often seen her outperform acts she opens for including Johnny Marr himself. Steven Matrick ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:35:28 -0700 From: "Douglas Stanley" Subject: [loud-fans] Fact Check The Baseball Diaries??? - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:55:39 -0400 From: Michael Bowen Subject: Re: [loud-fans] live at El Mocambo...YEE HAW!! On 4/17/05, zoom@muppetlabs.com wrote: > Not the only album with that problem. Which Velvets live set is the one > largely ruined, or at least undermined, by the asshole yelling for a > Pernod all through at least one side? Said asshole is apparently Jim Carroll. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,7948-1203588,00.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:49:49 -0500 From: Holly Kruse Subject: [loud-fans] Re: That's a Surprise - On Topic > Check out what Audioscrobbler says are the most played Loud Family > songs on their network. No one's commented on the "similar" (artists, I presume) list for The Loud Family. For instance, The Blind Boys of Alabama at #6?! Holly K. holly-kruse@utulsa.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:17:18 -0700 (PDT) From: zoom@muppetlabs.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Fact Check > The Baseball Diaries??? >> Not the only album with that problem. Which Velvets live set is the one >> largely ruined, or at least undermined, by the asshole yelling for a >> Pernod all through at least one side? > > > Said asshole is apparently Jim Carroll. > > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,7948-1203588,00.html The same, although granted we have only Mr. Chick (any relation to Jack T.?) saying so. One problem with necking painkillers, though: they don't neck back. Put him in the same room with the "Judas!" guy and let'em fight it out? Andy DeLay Continues Attacks on Federal Courts 2 hours, 38 minutes ago Top Stories - AP By JESSE J. HOLLAND, Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON - House Majority Leader Tom DeLay says Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy's work from the bench has been "incredibly outrageous," his latest salvo at the federal judiciary in the weeks following the courts' refusal to stop Terri Schiavo's death. DeLay also labeled a lot of the courts' Republican appointees as "judicial activists," a term applied by conservatives to judges they dislike for not following what they call strict interpretations of the Constitution. The No. 2 Republican in the House has been openly critical of the federal courts since they refused to order the reinsertion of Schiavo's feeding tube. And he pointed to Kennedy as an example of Republican members of the Supreme Court who were activist and isolated. "Absolutely. We've got Justice Kennedy writing decisions based upon international law, not the Constitution of the United States? That's just outrageous," DeLay told Fox News Radio on Tuesday. "And not only that, but he said in session that he does his own research on the Internet? That is just incredibly outrageous." A spokeswoman for the court, Kathy Arberg, said Kennedy could not be reached for comment. Although Kennedy was appointed to the Supreme Court by President Reagan, a conservative icon, he has aroused conservatives' ire by sometimes agreeing with the court's more liberal members. Nevertheless, it is unusual for a congressional leader to single out a Supreme Court justice for criticism. Dan Allen, a DeLay spokesman, declined comment on the interview. Democrats jumped on DeLay's comments Wednesday morning. "Has the Internet become the devil's workshop?" said Dick Durbin of Illinois, the Senate's No. 2 Democrat. "Is it some infernal machine now that needs to be avoided by all right-thinking Americans? What is Mr. DeLay trying to say, as he is stretching to lash out at judges who happen to disagree with his political point of view." Sen. Larry Craig (news, bio, voting record), R-Idaho, retorted: "Doesn't the other side have anything to talk about nowadays?" DeLay also has been criticized for his comments following Schiavo's death, which came despite Congress' passage of a law giving the federal courts jurisdiction to review her case. They declined to intervene. "The time will come for the men responsible for this to answer for their behavior," DeLay said in a statement. He apologized last week, saying he had spoken in an "inartful" way. Conservatives have been pushing to get the Senate to confirm President Bush's most conservative judicial nominees, which Senate Democrats are blocking. The House has no power over which judges are given lifetime appointments to the federal bench. However, DeLay has called repeatedly for the House to find a way to hold the federal judiciary accountable for its decisions. "The judiciary has become so activist and so isolated from the American people that it's our job to do that," he said. One way would be for the House Judiciary Committee to investigate the clause in the Constitution that says "judges can serve as long as they serve with good behavior," he said. "We want to define what good behavior means. And that's where you have to start." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:36:36 EDT From: LeftyZ@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Fact Check In a message dated 4/20/2005 10:20:28 AM Pacific Standard Time, zoom@muppetlabs.com writes: "Absolutely. We've got Justice Kennedy writing decisions based upon international law, not the Constitution of the United States? That's just outrageous," DeLay told Fox News Radio on Tuesday. "And not only that, but he said in session that he does his own research on the Internet? That is just incredibly outrageous." I have read this story three times this morning. I am having trouble understanding what is eve a TINY BIT "outrageous" about a judge/justice doing legal research on the net. Or, is the problem, to DeLay, that Kennedy is doing "his own" research? I honestly don't get this. Anybody? Left ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:01:22 -0700 From: douglas crist Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Fact Check On Apr 20, 2005, at 10:36 AM, LeftyZ@aol.com wrote: > I have read this story three times this morning. I am having trouble > understanding what is eve a TINY BIT "outrageous" about a > judge/justice doing legal > research on the net. Or, is the problem, to DeLay, that Kennedy is > doing > "his own" research? > I honestly don't get this. > Anybody? i'm sure JRT can enlighten us... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:17:53 EDT From: A52boy@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] le pastie de la bourgeoisie (while I eat potted meat and rame... In a message dated 4/20/05 1:53:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jmmallon@joescafe.com writes: Because the people in the article and the article's author seemed to do nothing but whine about how life hasn't handed them a living. "Oh, I got my degree in philosohpy and now no one will hire me." or "Oh, I got a degree, and now I can work, but it's not *fun*!" Joe Mallon jmmallon@joescafe.com That's true. I agree. The people with the easily hireable skills (non-Liberal Arters) aren't generally the whiny ones, are they? However, they aren't generally the ones to write anything either, so I guess that's why we don't get their side much in the journalistic/literary/arts world. About the only whining my brother would probably do is if Home Depot wouldn't accept his titanium Visa card. Oops. Did I just whine? - --Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:57:08 -0400 From: "Stewart Mason" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] le pastie de la bourgeoisie (while I eat potted meat and rame... - ----- Original Message ----- From: > In a message dated 4/20/05 1:53:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > jmmallon@joescafe.com writes: > >> Because the people in the article and the article's author seemed >> to do >> nothing but whine about how life hasn't handed them a living. >> "Oh, I got >> my degree in philosohpy and now no one will hire me." or "Oh, I >> got a >> degree, and now I can work, but it's not *fun*!" > > That's true. I agree. The people with the easily hireable skills > (non-Liberal Arters) aren't generally the whiny ones, are they? > However, they aren't > generally the ones to write anything either, so I guess that's why > we don't > get their side much in the journalistic/literary/arts world. I concur with both Joe and Jeff on this: people can come up with rationalizations until they're blue in the face, and they can decide that all of these evil cabals are aligned against them ("It's the baby boomers' fault! No, wait, it's the non-liberal arts majors' fault! It's certainly not MY fault, anyway!"), but when you get right down to it, the majority of that article was nothing but whining, and not only was the main thrust of the argument (the middle class is getting pinched from both ends) eligible for the No Shit, Sherlock Award 2005, but it also was obscured by that reductive either/or opposition in the author's bizarre contention that all of her friends either have crappy dead-end jobs or they're soulless neo-yuppies. Clearly, she must be living the most bizarre statistical anomaly ever, since I'm fairly certain that, believe it or not, there are people out there who were liberal arts majors who have good jobs that they enjoy doing. S ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:30:12 EDT From: JRT456@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Fact Check In a message dated 4/20/05 2:09:16 PM, dc@bainbridge.net writes: > <> > There aren't many conservatives rushing to defend DeLay on the internet issue, but the Leftist (and, inherently, Associated Press) outrage mainly seems to be about DeLay questioning our great robed masters...even on a bipartisan basis. Anyway, agree or disagree, DeLay's consistent concern is that Kennedy ignores the traditional role of a justice in considering cases. If you're discussing the dopiness of applying international law, as DeLay is, then you can build a case about the use of the internet against, say, a law library. Of course, that isn't to endorse DeLay's particular belief. I'm just stepping in because "dc@bainbridge.net" doesn't seem to know any conservatives. I also advise against believing the AP's notion of what conservatives consider to be "judicial activism." On a musical note, I've finally become rattled by the use of a song in advertising. I've tried to get Matt Johnson some ad revenue in the past, but even I would've balked at pitching the chorus of "This Is The Day" for those Dockers ads. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:33:35 -0500 From: Chris Prew Subject: Re: [loud-fans] le pastie de la bourgeoisie (while I eat potted meat and rame... On Apr 20, 2005, at 1:57 PM, Stewart Mason wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- From: >> In a message dated 4/20/05 1:53:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >> jmmallon@joescafe.com writes: >> >>> Because the people in the article and the article's author seemed >>> to do >>> nothing but whine about how life hasn't handed them a living. "Oh, >>> I got >>> my degree in philosohpy and now no one will hire me." or "Oh, I got >>> a >>> degree, and now I can work, but it's not *fun*!" >> >> That's true. I agree. The people with the easily hireable skills >> (non-Liberal Arters) aren't generally the whiny ones, are they? >> However, they aren't >> generally the ones to write anything either, so I guess that's why >> we don't >> get their side much in the journalistic/literary/arts world. > > I concur with both Joe and Jeff on this: people can come up with > rationalizations until they're blue in the face, and they can decide > that all of these evil cabals are aligned against them ("It's the baby > boomers' fault! No, wait, it's the non-liberal arts majors' fault! > It's certainly not MY fault, anyway!"), but when you get right down to > it, the majority of that article was nothing but whining, and not only > was the main thrust of the argument (the middle class is getting > pinched from both ends) eligible for the No Shit, Sherlock Award 2005, > but it also was obscured by that reductive either/or opposition in the > author's bizarre contention that all of her friends either have crappy > dead-end jobs or they're soulless neo-yuppies. Clearly, she must be > living the most bizarre statistical anomaly ever, since I'm fairly > certain that, believe it or not, there are people out there who were > liberal arts majors who have good jobs that they enjoy doing. > > S > > Amen -- I'm a case in point -- Former film major, now gainfully employed and reasonably well paid Systems Admin. Its not what I went to school for, but I enjoy it. Sure it sucks some days, but you know what? I did get to work in the film industry for a while, and that sucked just about every day. The little fact thats getting left out is, if you get a soulless job, work hard, bite your tongue every now and then when it would be prudent to do so, and stick with it, that mindless soulless job can frequently turn into a decent one. One where you can work on projects that are interesting to you because, heaven forbid, the experience of working actually broadens the scope of your interests! Ironically, now that I'm a computer geek, thanks to the digital convergence of media, I'm in a better position now to contribute to film and music projects in my spare time than I would have been if I had never gotten involved with computers. And I don't have to go the starving artist route to do it. you got to pay your dues before you pay the rent Chris ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:15:26 EDT From: LeftyZ@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Fact Check In a message dated 4/20/2005 12:31:32 PM Pacific Standard Time, JRT456@aol.com writes: There aren't many conservatives rushing to defend DeLay on the internet issue, but the Leftist (and, inherently, Associated Press) outrage mainly seems to be about DeLay questioning our great robed masters...even on a bipartisan basis. Anyway, agree or disagree, DeLay's consistent concern is that Kennedy ignores the traditional role of a justice in considering cases. If you're discussing the dopiness of applying international law, as DeLay is, then you can build a case about the use of the internet against, say, a law library. Thanks. But, I have to say, I still don't see it. To me, any suggestion that there is something wrong, let alone "incredibly outrageous," about using the internet for legal research is the thing that's dopey. I, and thousands of other lawyers in this country, use the internet for legal research every day. It's WAY easier than a law library for many things. Also, on what I see as a completely different issue, I will have to inform myself on the "international law" issue. After having read 10s of thousands of judicial opinions, that doesn't seem to me to be a problem, unless the judge/justice were to suggest that the international law was controlling. Using international law as a backdrop wouldn't offend anyone, would it? Left ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:25:02 -0700 From: Matthew Weber Subject: Re: [loud-fans] le pastie de la bourgeoisie (while I eat potted meat and rame... At 02:57 PM 4/20/2005 -0400, Stewart Mason wrote: >----- Original Message ----- From: >>In a message dated 4/20/05 1:53:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >>jmmallon@joescafe.com writes: >> >>>Because the people in the article and the article's author seemed to do >>>nothing but whine about how life hasn't handed them a living. "Oh, I got >>>my degree in philosohpy and now no one will hire me." or "Oh, I got a >>>degree, and now I can work, but it's not *fun*!" >> >>That's true. I agree. The people with the easily hireable skills >>(non-Liberal Arters) aren't generally the whiny ones, are they? However, >>they aren't >>generally the ones to write anything either, so I guess that's why we don't >>get their side much in the journalistic/literary/arts world. > >I concur with both Joe and Jeff on this: people can come up with >rationalizations until they're blue in the face, and they can decide that >all of these evil cabals are aligned against them ("It's the baby boomers' >fault! No, wait, it's the non-liberal arts majors' fault! It's certainly >not MY fault, anyway!"), but when you get right down to it, the majority >of that article was nothing but whining, and not only was the main thrust >of the argument (the middle class is getting pinched from both ends) >eligible for the No Shit, Sherlock Award 2005, but it also was obscured by >that reductive either/or opposition in the author's bizarre contention >that all of her friends either have crappy dead-end jobs or they're >soulless neo-yuppies. Clearly, she must be living the most bizarre >statistical anomaly ever, since I'm fairly certain that, believe it or >not, there are people out there who were liberal arts majors who have good >jobs that they enjoy doing. Present, sir! It's not a super-high paying job, but I like it, anyway. Matthew Weber Curatorial Assistant Jean Gray Hargrove Music Library University of California, Berkeley Be not ignorant of any thing in a great matter or a small. The Holy Bible (The Apocrypha): The Wisdom of Jesus the Son of Sirach, or Ecclesiasticus, 5:15 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:33:40 EDT From: JRT456@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Fact Check In a message dated 4/20/05 4:15:26 PM, Lefty Z writes: > I, and thousands of other lawyers in this country, use the internet for > legal research every day. It's WAY easier than a law library for many things. > Tom DeLay never said that the internet isn't reliable for legal research. Instead, he's discussing the issue of Kennedy fishing for ways around the Constitution. There'll likely be a gag on THE DAILY SHOW tonight about DeLay equating the internet with a Ouija board, and that's harmless enough. Still, there are plenty of people trying to stretch the truth in an attempt to make questionable points about DeLay's quotes. We'll probably next be hearing about his fear of calico cats. That Dockers ad may be creepy, but Parry Gripp (formerly of Nerf Herder) has a new collection of failed commercial jingles that's really great. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:45:15 -0700 From: Elizabeth Brion Subject: [loud-fans] On-topic! I didn't see anyone mention that Scott Miller and Anton Barbeau are playing the Epic Arts Center in Berkeley on 4/22, so in case nobody actually did, I will. Wish I could go - I have an errand I need to run in Berkeley sometime soon anyway - but I'm afraid my kid's not babysittable enough yet. Oh well. E ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 18:30:54 -0500 From: Jeff Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Fact Check On 4/20/05, Douglas Stanley wrote: > The Baseball Diaries??? Yeah - apparently Kate Bush came by and stole a couple letters. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:55:39 -0400 > From: Michael Bowen > Subject: Re: [loud-fans] live at El Mocambo...YEE HAW!! > > On 4/17/05, zoom@muppetlabs.com wrote: > > > Not the only album with that problem. Which Velvets live set is the one > > largely ruined, or at least undermined, by the asshole yelling for a > > Pernod all through at least one side? > > Said asshole is apparently Jim Carroll. > > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,7948-1203588,00.html > - -- ...Jeff The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:35:00 -0400 From: Francis J H Park Subject: Re: [loud-fans] le pastie de la bourgeoisie (while I eat potted meat and rame... Stewart Mason wrote: > either/or opposition in the author's bizarre contention that all of > her friends either have crappy dead-end jobs or they're soulless > neo-yuppies. Clearly, she must be living the most bizarre statistical > anomaly ever, since I'm fairly certain that, believe it or not, there > are people out there who were liberal arts majors who have good jobs > that they enjoy doing. I was a history major as an undergraduate. Although I took a different career path than most, life as a junior Army officer for the first four or five years of my Army life was intellectually unrewarding. There were some parts to learning how to kill that I enjoyed on a visceral level, but most of the education I actually used as a lieutenant was high school math and science . While I love being around troops, I applied very little history or later on, political science. The Army desperately needs its killers to win in the close combat fight, but those killers aren't very intellectual, and most of the Army isn't a very intellectual place. It wasn't until my sixth year on active duty that I realized where my niche within the Army would reside, and so, I came to peace with being a strategic plans and policy officer until I leave the Army. It's one of the very few fields where a liberal arts education isn't just valued, but is very much necessary. There are even jobs where I can indulge being around shooters (i.e., infantrymen and tankers) while still getting to do more academic things in uniform, which is the best parts of both sides as far as I'm concerned. I won't dispute that there are some stultifying parts of it (as with any job, I suspect), but I couldn't have been a strategic planner until last year. I just didn't have the experience needed to do that...or for that matter, any other career fields that might've interested me, like psychological operations. Sometimes you gotta suck to get to the good parts, and while the occupational hazards can be a little dicey, I'm ok with the financial compensation commensurate to my rank. - -- Francis J. H. Park http://home.sprintmail.com/~durandal - -- "Ask for my honesty and you'll have my loyalty. Ask for my loyalty and you'll have my honesty." - Col(Ret) John R. Boyd, USAF (1927-1997) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:37:30 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Fact Check On Apr 20, 2005, at 3:15 PM, LeftyZ@aol.com wrote: > Using international law as a backdrop wouldn't offend anyone, would it? Mr. Z, you need to get out more. ;) DeLay is playing to his most ardent supporters. On Apr 20, 2005, at 3:33 PM, JRT456@aol.com wrote: > We'll probably next be hearing about > his fear of calico cats. Nope, I figure if you cut him open a bunch of cockroaches would fall out. - - Steve __________ Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer, Ein News Channel - Fox News. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:45:43 -0500 From: steve Subject: [loud-fans] New Miyazaki film (NS) As the list's Miyazaki fan, it's time to note that his new film will be getting a US release in June. QuickTime trailer . - - Steve __________ Ultimately, the path Bush has led the United States down is not about weapons of mass destruction, Security Council Resolution 1441, weapons inspections, or disarmament. It has always been about regime change and using America's military power to enforce a world order deemed favorable to U.S. interests. - Charles V. Pena, Cato Institute ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:30:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Curley Subject: Fwd: [loud-fans] On-topic! Thanks for the reminding us. Any Bay Area Fans want to share a ride to the show? I'm in San Jose (near Cupertino) and I can drive up. Mike Elizabeth Brion wrote: To: loud-fans@smoe.org From: Elizabeth Brion Subject: [loud-fans] On-topic! Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:45:15 -0700 I didn't see anyone mention that Scott Miller and Anton Barbeau are playing the Epic Arts Center in Berkeley on 4/22, so in case nobody actually did, I will. Wish I could go - I have an errand I need to run in Berkeley sometime soon anyway - but I'm afraid my kid's not babysittable enough yet. Oh well. E Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 01:41:53 EDT From: A52boy@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] le pastie de la bourgeoisie (while I eat potted meat and rame... In a message dated 4/20/05 3:06:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, craigtorso@verizon.net writes: Clearly, she must be living the most bizarre statistical anomaly ever, since I'm fairly certain that, believe it or not, there are people out there who were liberal arts majors who have good jobs that they enjoy doing. Yes! I love writing for Jen's mag, and being a late night DJ at the best damned public radio station there is. It's so much fun to play something like Scott or the Judybats or what have you and have people call and go, "**it man, that was awesome! Who was that?" These two things actually relate to my Journalism and Speech major. It's a bit like Gil said about Game Theory once. He didn't make any money, but he had a good time. - --Mark, who believes if you take about 10 minutes and learn Piaget's theories on cognitive development, and have loads of patience, you can teach grade school np Judybats 6-PACK OF NEW TRACKS ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 01:54:14 -0400 From: Jenny Grover Subject: Re: [loud-fans] le pastie de la bourgeoisie (while I eat potted meat and rame... A52boy@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 4/20/05 3:06:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >craigtorso@verizon.net writes: > >Clearly, she must be >living the most bizarre statistical anomaly ever, since I'm fairly >certain that, believe it or not, there are people out there who were >liberal arts majors who have good jobs that they enjoy doing. > > > >Yes! I love writing for Jen's mag, and being a late night DJ at the best >damned public radio station there is. It's so much fun to play something like >Scott or the Judybats or what have you and have people call and go, "**it >man, that was awesome! Who was that?" > >These two things actually relate to my Journalism and Speech major. > >It's a bit like Gil said about Game Theory once. He didn't make any money, >but he had a good time. > >--Mark, who believes if you take about 10 minutes and learn Piaget's >theories on cognitive development, and have loads of patience, you can teach grade >school > >np Judybats 6-PACK OF NEW TRACKS > > > > Ummm, yeah, but I thought the point of the article was about jobs, you know, the kind that actually pay enough money to live on. Jen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 02:19:18 EDT From: A52boy@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] le pastie de la bourgeoisie (while I eat potted meat and rame... In a message dated 4/21/05 2:02:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, sleeveless@zoominternet.net writes: Ummm, yeah, but I thought the point of the article was about jobs, you know, the kind that actually pay enough money to live on. Jen I know. I'm sure there are few of those around. The competition for paying jobs in the Communications field is quite cut-throat. If you love your job and it relates to your field and you GET PAID and can make it on what you get paid, then you have it made, and you shouldn't ever whine. - --Mark ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V5 #100 *******************************