From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V5 #74 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Tuesday, March 22 2005 Volume 05 : Number 074 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [loud-fans] this may be old news [LkDylaninthmvies@aol.com] Re: [loud-fans] bright stipey eyes [Rex Broome ] Re: [loud-fans] mp3s [Rex Broome ] Re: [loud-fans] mp3s ["Stewart Mason" ] Re: [loud-fans] mp3s ["Bradley Skaught" ] Re: [loud-fans] mp3s [Rex Broome ] Re: [loud-fans] mp3s [dmw ] Re: [loud-fans] mp3s [Rex Broome ] [loud-fans] Up with folks ["Bradley Skaught" ] Re: [loud-fans] Up with folks [Rex Broome ] Re: [loud-fans] Up with folks ["Michael Zwirn" ] Re: [loud-fans] Up with folks [LkDylaninthmvies@aol.com] Re: [loud-fans] Up with folks [dc ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:22:38 EST From: LkDylaninthmvies@aol.com Subject: [loud-fans] this may be old news I was curious about why I hadn't seen a Kindercore Records release in so long. Go to kindercore.com to find out why. Sad. - --Mark "Man, just don't worry about it and play it! You can't polish a turd." (bartender to musician customer/friend at the Caledonia Lounge) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 07:41:57 -0800 From: Rex Broome Subject: Re: [loud-fans] bright stipey eyes Aaron M: > Particular the "Can you stand it?" part of "Scared Straight"'s chorus. > John Roderick sings it more like "stand aaaat" and Stipe would sing "stand > eh-et" but the way that syllable is drawn out seems very Stipe to me. I can see that. I think that I don't necessarily key in on the weirdness of Stipe's phrasing because REM was like Rock 101 to me, pretty much the first rock band that I really liked and absorbed, so some of Stipe's odd stuff seems like standard-issue rock phrasing to me, whereas the quality of his voice remains distinct from everything I've heard since. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 07:44:01 -0800 From: Rex Broome Subject: Re: [loud-fans] mp3s Having gone TV-free for a long time now, and given that one of the only shows I followed before that was "24", I'm still surprised that I just learned last night from a friend that the Giant Evil Corporation this season on that show is named "Forster-MacLennan". That's weird. Can anyone fill me in on this? - -Rex On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 23:03:52 -0800, Bradley Skaught wrote: > The new Go-Betweens single is available for free download at yeproc.com = > and I think it's really fantastic! > > Also available for free download is "Sacred Heart" from the Cass McCombs = > album PREfection. The album is sheer genius and this song is too great = > for words. It's at www.monitorrecords.com > > Don't say I never did nothing for ya. > > love, > B > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.7.2 - Release Date: 3/11/2005 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:23:39 -0500 From: "Stewart Mason" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] mp3s - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rex Broome" > Having gone TV-free for a long time now, and given that one of the > only shows I followed before that was "24", I'm still surprised that > I > just learned last night from a friend that the Giant Evil > Corporation > this season on that show is named "Forster-MacLennan". That's > weird. > Can anyone fill me in on this? This was briefly mentioned in this week's Entertainment Weekly. Basically, it's just as you might suspect: the executive producer is a Go-Betweens fan. S ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:50:21 -0800 From: "Bradley Skaught" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] mp3s > Basically, it's just as you might suspect: the executive > producer is a > Go-Betweens fan. Glad to hear it! My girlfriend watches the show, and I kept overhearing the phrase "Mclennan/Forster" coming from the TV--I knew it couldn't be a coincedence. Aside from Heathers, can anyone think of other similarily obscure references on TV? A friend and I were watching a children's show with his daughter when one of the characters said "oh no, someone left the cake out in the rain!" B - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 3/18/2005 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:09:02 -0800 From: Rex Broome Subject: Re: [loud-fans] mp3s Bradley: > > Aside from Heathers, can anyone think of other similarily > obscure references on TV? A friend and I were watching a children's show > with his daughter when one of the characters said "oh no, someone left the > cake out in the rain!" The Powerpuff Girls is riddled with lifts from The Big Lebowski. No joke. Whole scenes with borrowed dialogue and shot designs, in multiple episodes. - -Rex, father of two ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:09:07 -0500 (EST) From: dmw Subject: Re: [loud-fans] mp3s On Mon, 21 Mar 2005, Rex Broome wrote: > Bradley: > > > > Aside from Heathers, can anyone think of other similarily > > obscure references on TV? A friend and I were watching a children's show > > with his daughter when one of the characters said "oh no, someone left the > > cake out in the rain!" The Simpsons! > The Powerpuff Girls is riddled with lifts from The Big Lebowski. No > joke. Whole scenes with borrowed dialogue and shot designs, in > multiple episodes. "Meet the Beat-Alls" has way too many fab 4 references/puns to get in a single viewing. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 12:33:39 -0800 From: Rex Broome Subject: Re: [loud-fans] mp3s dmw: > "Meet the Beat-Alls" has way too many fab 4 references/puns to get > in a single viewing. Lucky me, I've seen it often enough to get 'em all! Some of them are really obscure, too. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:58:15 -0800 From: "Bradley Skaught" Subject: [loud-fans] Up with folks I realize i'm pretty much alone in my deep, deep admiration for R.E.M.'s = _Up_, but I gotta say that the DVD performance footage from the new = reissue is worth tracking down for any R.E.M. fan! It's really, really = gorgeous--three songs from _Up_ done in a far more organic, = live-in-the-studio setting than the very electronic album. They've got = Stringfellow, McGaughey, Joey Waronker and a pedal steel player who = could be Bruce Kaphan. They're playing in a circle with moody lighting = and it's really very moving and, perhaps, revelatory for anyone who = didn't really get into the album. So far i've worked through the DVDs from Automatic and New Adventures = and i've really enjoyed them--mostly period "making of" documentaries. B No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 3/18/2005 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:08:39 -0800 From: Rex Broome Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Up with folks Bradley Skaught wrote: > I realize i'm pretty much alone in my deep, deep admiration for R.E.M.'s = > _Up_ No, you aren't... If you like "Around the Sun", you might have more of a case for loneliness. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:28:01 -0800 From: "Michael Zwirn" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Up with folks - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bradley Skaught" To: "Loud Fans" Subject: [loud-fans] Up with folks Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:58:15 -0800 > > I realize i'm pretty much alone in my deep, deep admiration for R.E.M.'s = > _Up_, I have no interest in purchasing the deluxe reissues, but my commentary on the album, which Andy Hamlin once referred to as "talmudic", is at http://macdialup.com/zwilliams/review47.htm. I don't find myself listening to it regularly, but many of the individual songs are incredibly touching. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:39:16 EST From: LkDylaninthmvies@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Up with folks In a message dated 3/21/05 6:07:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, treesprite@earthlink.net writes: So far i've worked through the DVDs from Automatic and New Adventures = and i've really enjoyed them--mostly period "making of" documentaries. I have the AUTOMATIC and OUT OF TIME reissues and I love the footage of Stipe and Pierson and Mills recording "Shiny Happy People." Kate Pierson looks like she's having a great time, (her smiling face could charm a rattlesnake) and, fourteen years on, would look great today with what she had on in 1990/91 (no beehive hair here...something simple and black). - --Mark np: Go-Go's BEAUTY AND THE BEAT on my little retro '50s designed dayglo and chrome CD player/radio I keep on top of my monitor (fogeying in style...helps offset the intense beigeness of the computer) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:24:55 -0800 From: dc Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Up with folks On Monday, March 21, 2005, at 02:58 PM, Bradley Skaught wrote: > I realize i'm pretty much alone in my deep, deep admiration for > R.E.M.'s = > _Up_, not at all, bro' -- it's genius. which made the plummet to "Reveal" all the more disappointing. (the jury's still out on "Sun.") that said, i think all of the material from the past three albums has benefited from "alternate" and live takes. even the "Reveal" B-sides included some better and more organic mixes of several of the album tracks. makes me wonder what their new records would sound like if they started arranging for a four-piece band again, instead of with the big touring ensemble in mind. not, mind you, that "Up" isn't perfect as it is. because it is. doug c ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V5 #74 ******************************