From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V4 #273 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Monday, October 4 2004 Volume 04 : Number 273 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [loud-fans] PBRT Polaroids - Scott photos content [Robert Toren ] Re: [loud-fans] Let's all SMiLE! [Steve Holtebeck ] Re: [loud-fans] american music club returns [Miles Goosens ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 09:37:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Toren Subject: [loud-fans] PBRT Polaroids - Scott photos content Some of 92 PBRT-studio polaroids are deteriorating, so I've (re)scanned all 16 of them at 8x10, 72dpi, jpeg-10, and uploaded them into the Loud Fam v1 folder under Photos. ~4 have not been uploaded here before. RT http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/gametheoryphotos/ ===== http://www.angrylambie.com _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 11:34:57 -0700 (PDT) From: "Joseph M. Mallon" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] PBRT Polaroids - Scott photos content On Sun, 3 Oct 2004, Robert Toren wrote: > Some of 92 PBRT-studio polaroids are deteriorating, > so I've (re)scanned all 16 of them at 8x10, 72dpi, > jpeg-10, and uploaded them into the Loud Fam v1 folder > under Photos. > ~4 have not been uploaded here before. > RT > http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/gametheoryphotos/ These are so great. It's really neat seeing everyone huddled around the ARP 2600. The guy who's not in the LF in that picture is our own Don Tillman. Joe ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 19:18:27 -0700 From: Michael Zwirn Subject: [loud-fans] chat? Realize that it's been a while, but if anyone is in the mood for some IRC, I'm at at irc.eskimo.com #loudfans, which oddly enough seems to be calling irc.aohell.org home for the time being. Michael ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 20:48:34 -0700 From: Steve Holtebeck Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Let's all SMiLE! Aaron Milenski wrote: > I heard SMILE last night and have some thoughts on it: > > It will take several more listens to fully grasp this, but > I must say that it's very, very pleasing to me because > it feels so genuine and so vintage, and that as I've > always expected, while it's not PET SOUNDS, it's > certainly the second best Beach Boys album. > > I'd love to hear what others think of it... I picked it up this weekend, and think it's great. After all these years of trying to fit together all the bootleg sessions in my mind, it's nice to have a completed album to fit everything into. It doesn't really qualify as a rock album (or even a Beach Boys album), and it might be cheating, but I can't see anything else topping my list of favorite albums for 2004, unless Scott Miller drops LOLITA NATION II or something. People like me who learned about SMiLE from Domenic Priore's DUMB ANGEL GAZETTE fanzine must be wondering what he thinks of all this. Glad you asked. http://earcandy_mag.tripod.com/domenicpriore-2004.htm And judging from the reviews linked from brianwilson.com, Robert Christgau also likes it.. (his 5-star Rolling Stone review is at http://tinyurl.com/5nvyg) But Jim Derogatis doesn't (http://tinyurl.com/3ljrm). His Sun Times Review calls Van Dyke Parks "an overrated nitwit" and says Tony Asher "has as often been dismissed as a bit of a hack". I've never heard Asher dismissed as a hack, but Jim Derogatis has to know what a hack is! - -Steve ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 23:02:21 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: [loud-fans] american music club returns Aaron Mandel: >I realize people always say that about reunion albums, but for what it's >worth, I've been disappointed by just about everything I've heard >described that way, save one track on the Soft Boys reunion. I'll submit these as totally non-disappointing, ones where I don't have to tell myself even a little bit "I'm just glad they're together again" to rationalize my disappointment: Wire, THE IDEAL COPY Wire, SEND Pere Ubu, THE TENEMENT YEAR Pylon, CHAIN (hope they can join Wire as repeat members of this list) I like NEXTDOORLAND way beyond just one track, though it falls a little short of the ones I've listed above. Jason & the Scorchers didn't quite get it on first try (A BLAZING GRACE) but knocked it out of the park on the second (CLEAR IMPETUOUS MORNING). I like Gang of Four's MALL way better than most other folks do, but yeah, even to me it's not up to ENTERTAINMENT! / SOLID GOLD / SONGS OF THE FREE. Of course, the fact that this handful of albums are the only ones that came to mind immediately supports Aaron's general "disappointed by reunion albums" contention. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 22:20:09 -0600 From: Roger Winston Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Let's all SMiLE! At Sunday 10/3/2004 09:48 PM, Steve Holtebeck wrote: >But Jim Derogatis doesn't (http://tinyurl.com/3ljrm). His Sun Times >Review calls Van Dyke Parks "an overrated nitwit" and says Tony Asher >"has as often been dismissed as a bit of a hack". I've never heard >Asher dismissed as a hack, but Jim Derogatis has to know what a hack is! Speaking of... Have we discussed "Kill Your Idols" here yet? I just got it last week and have a read a few of the essays, including the SGT PEPPER, PET SOUNDS, SMILE, NEVERMIND and OK COMPUTER ones. As someone who grew up in the 60s yet never really got the Beach Boys thing and the genius of Brian Wilson, it's refreshing to me to see that I'm not alone in my indifference. And that not everyone considers classics to be... er, classic. Latre. --Rog - -- Distance, Redefined: http://www.reignoffrogs.com/flasshe ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V4 #273 *******************************