From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V4 #272 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Sunday, October 3 2004 Volume 04 : Number 272 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [loud-fans] My band could be your life, if your life started with "C" [LkDylaninthmvies@aol.c] Re: [loud-fans] Zombies [Steve Holtebeck ] Re: [loud-fans] Re: Let's all SMILE! + a CD burning request [LkDylaninthm] Re: [loud-fans] Zombies [JRT456@aol.com] Re: Re: [loud-fans] John Cale's guts located! [2fs I thought they were Italian stereotypes, mob-style. Yeah, you're right. They look (as well as the advertising I saw at Burger King) really cliched black to me, but I found out that they're supposed to be Italian stereotypes. I read today that the characters have caused quite a furor. I would have never guessed Italian. I supposed I'd have to hear the voices (Tony Soprano, the Great White death machine) of the characters. It must be gangster, not gangsta. M Oh, and sharks are mammals. M ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 08:21:42 -0700 From: Steve Holtebeck Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Zombies "Heyman, Elo A" wrote: > Also, is there a good Zombies compliation? I tend more toward "Tell Her > No", "Changes", "Come on Time"-type tunes than "Time of the Season" > type songs. I tend more toward "Tell Her No", "Changes", "Come on > Time"-type tunes than "Time of the Season" type songs. Lucky for you there's only one "Time Of The Season" type song in the Zombies' canon. There isn't any Zombies compilation that has "Changes" or "This Will Be Our Year", but they only released two albums (BEGIN HERE and ODESSEY & ORACLE) plus a few singles, so you can buy everything they ever recorded with just a couple of CDs. The 4-CD box set that Stewart mentioned is really good, but it's got one disc of radio sessions and one disc of demos, so it's for the more hardcore fan. I saw the Zombies (Colin and Rod plus a cast of others) this week playing in a double bill with Arthur Lee & Love. If anyone told me years ago I'd be able to see Love and the Zombies, I wouldn't have believed them! Does anyone have any opinions on the newest Zombies album? The new songs sounded pretty good live, but I didn't pick up the CD at the show. Steve ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 14:08:04 EDT From: LkDylaninthmvies@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Re: Let's all SMILE! + a CD burning request In a message dated 10/1/04 2:57:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, vallor@comcast.net writes: > Smiley Smile was a sort of half-baked attempt to salvage some of the songs > from Smile. The songs were re-recorded (mostly sans the deteriorating Brian > Wilson) and are much less fully realized than what had been intended on > Smile. I still like it, but as I began to further explore the Smile bootlegs > (thanks to many Loudfans list members) and particularly the stunning few > original finished tracks on the Beach Boys' Good Vibrations boxed set, I > found that Smiley Smile paled greatly next to what was intended. > > I like hearing the construction of "Good Vibrations" that SS has, though. Fascinating. It brings to my mind the studio musicians, exhausted, drinking Cokes and beers and smoking cigarettes after a long day with Brian Wilson trying to record perfection, not realizing they've just participated in arguably the most important recording of the past 40 years. Sharks are fish, after all. And Italian, not black. I don't know why I thought they were mammals. Oh Lord. Pandas are really bears, but they're not Chinese. They're from Tennessee. - --Mark S. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 16:09:12 EDT From: JRT456@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Zombies In a message dated 10/2/04 11:51:46 AM, smholt@ix.netcom.com writes: > Does anyone have any opinions on the newest Zombies > album? The new songs sounded pretty good live, but I didn't pick up the > CD at the show. > I've never been a fan of their previous work as a duo, but the new Zombies album from Argent & Blunstone sounds almost as full of hit singles as the latest from the Finn Brothers. Kind of easy-listening, though. I'm not sure if I'll be able to kid myself that I'm seeing the Zombies and Love in a couple of weeks, but I'll try to suspend disbelief during the show. Fortunately, for tonight, there's only one Ronnie James Dio. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 21:48:35 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Re: [loud-fans] John Cale's guts located! > On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 15:54:45 -0400, "Aaron Milenski" > said: > > >Plus the "album albums" have that other version of "The Jeweller" if I > > >recall. > > Egads. Another version of "The Jeweller?" Do tell. It took me a while digging through old cassettes, but...some CD version of _Slow Dazzle_ featured a version of "The Jeweller" completely different from the one on _The Island Years_ compilation. It's a minute longer and features more viola and electronic texture. You might want to compare them. Here are some low-res (96kbps) versions: The _Slow Dazzle_ CD version: The _Island Years_ version: - -- ++Jeff++ The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 23:43:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: [loud-fans] american music club returns I got my hands on the new American Music Club album (I think it comes out on the 12th) and holy cow, it's good. It's not going to become my favorite of theirs-- Mercury is well-ensconced in that spot-- but except for the lack of Kaphan's pedal steel, it sounds like they really did pick up right where they left off. I realize people always say that about reunion albums, but for what it's worth, I've been disappointed by just about everything I've heard described that way, save one track on the Soft Boys reunion. I'm glad so many great bands are getting back together, but all too often, I end up feeling like a sucker for thinking (say) that "Bam Thwok" was going to sound like the Pixies rather than like a cross between the solo projects the members worked on more recently. The sequencing is weird; the flesh-rending songs are mostly in the first half, the milder songs in the second. When I sat and just listened, doing nothing else, this gave it a good flow, but honestly, even a record this intense would be nice to listen to casually, which I think would be easier if they had dropped one of the weakest songs and rearranged the rest. Still, I like it. a ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V4 #272 *******************************