From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V4 #242 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Sunday, September 5 2004 Volume 04 : Number 242 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [loud-fans] 1985... why did it have to be 1985? ["richard BLATHERWICK] [loud-fans] Consult the Oracle, 25 Cents [Miles Goosens Subject: Re: [loud-fans] 1985... why did it have to be 1985? I was reaping the dividends of meeting up at uni with a guy who was well into all the Paisley related stuff, which is interesting as over the last few years he's been a member of the Grid, a big dance/techno/trip-hop band and done some movie music too, I think. He did me a tape that introduced me to The Church, The Go-Betweens, Dream Syndicate, Rain Parade, REM, et al, in late '84, so I spent much of '85 drifting round alternative record stores like Probe in Liverpool and various places around Birmingham trying to track down back catalog stuff by these bands. I still spent a fair amount of my time indulging my previous passions for the likes of Buzzcocks, Only Ones and so on, as well as more recent stuff like The Cure, Bunnymen & Smiths. I was still a year or so away from discovering the Triffids, who remain one of the all-time greats, imo, and another 3 or so years before I picked up my copy of 2Steps, which was my introduction to Scott & Co. There are probably a whole host of other bands that I listened to a lot at the time, Marillion have just come to mind, who haven't stayed with me in quite the way some of the others have, and there are plenty of bands that were around at the time that I didn't come across because of our relative places in the space-time continuum. Richard - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny Grover" > > I was fortunate to have at my disposal the Princeton Record Exchange, > King Tut's City Gardens (still the best club I've ever frequented), and > the best freakin' radio station on the planet, at least at that time, > WPRB, the college station. I still have yet to hear its equal. So, > finally, I had access to a whole world of punk, underground, etc. that > I'd only had a taste of when in college myself. I was already into > stuff like the Dead Kennedys, Clash, Specials, XTC, Joe Jackson, Elvis > Costello, Wall of Voodoo, and Talking Heads from my college days. By > '85 I was also into Let's Active, The Fall, The Smiths, Echo and the > Bunnymen, REM, Art of Noise, Cure, Depeche Mode, Stranglers, Magazine, > Wire, Bauhaus, Husker Du, the Replacements, Buzzcocks, Killing Joke, > Ministry (was Twitch out yet, or was that '86?), Ralph Records stuff, > the Fleshtones... the list goes on and on. I don't think I got into the > Church till '86, but I'm not sure. My first Game Theory experience, > that I know of, was hearing "Curse of the Frontier Land," and that was > enough to seal the deal for me. WPRB played "The Young Drug" > occasionally, too, but I think I heard at least parts of Real Nighttime > first (I think they were playing every track off RN). Also heard Tears > for Fears "Head Over Heels" in a store, and immediately was just that. > I had to find out what it was. My tastes ran from new wave to punk to > ska to garage revival to goth to power pop to African pop to hardcore to > Paisley Underground to post-punk to post-punk Southern boho to > industrial noise to art punk to art rock to reggae to Prince to... well, > as you can see, I wasn't nailing myself down into any one category. I > taped WPRB constantly, and I still have most of the tapes I compiled > (having a 2-track meant dual well, so I could re-record just the songs I > wanted to keep). With new wave, suddenly there were a few more > interesting fashion options out there in the clothing stores, and I did > all sorts of things with (and to) my hair. '85 must have been when I > started growing my skinny little braids, since I started doing that at > the grocery store after seeing a model with one very long, skinny braid > on one side, in a fashion ad in a magazine in the break room. My hair > was all of about 3-4 spikey inches long when I started them. And people > say I have no ambition! > > Jen ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 20:02:43 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Miles Goosens Subject: [loud-fans] Consult the Oracle, 25 Cents Last night Melissa and I revisited a time and place lost in distant memory, a time today's youth would deem inconceivable: When Robin Williams was funny. She'd never seen MOSCOW ON THE HUDSON, so I rented a copy through Netflix. If you're fond of this film, you might pin your hopes on a widescreen edition; this'un was ye olde pan and scan (though there is a Paul Mazursky commentary track). Anyway, here's my question for the crowd, after exhausting my web search abilities trying to come up with an answer: For years, I remembered a scene where the Russian emigre went to a grocery store and spied a box of Playtex New Freedom. "New Freedom!" he exclaimed. This (the early '80s) being the heyday of headbands and wristbands, he proceeded to wear his New Freedom as a headband while playing basketball, etc. The "new freedom" scens were *not* on the DVD we watched last night. So, did Playtex have the scenes pulled for posterity, or (more likely) am I running MOSCOW ON THE HUDSON together with a second '80s Russian emigre fish-out-of-water comedy? Hollywood tends to greenlight a couple of the same sort of film at a time, like the three "save the farm" movies of 1984 or the three "teen science" movies of '85, etc. etc., so this is certainly possible. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 00:00:31 -0400 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: [loud-fans] 1985... why did it have to be 1985? At 06:42 PM 9/2/2004 +0100, richard BLATHERWICK wrote: >I was reaping the dividends of meeting up at uni with a guy who was well >into all the Paisley related stuff, which is interesting as over the last >few years he's been a member of the Grid, a big dance/techno/trip-hop band >and done some movie music too, I think. The Grid? The ones who did "Swamp Thing"? Or, as the sticker on my copy says, "Der hit mit dem banjo"? Great song, particularly considering it's one of those CDs I spent a dime for during Hastings' annual January used-disc blowout.... S ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 01:25:53 EDT From: LkDylaninthmvies@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] 1985... why did it have to be 1985? In a message dated 9/2/04 2:50:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, pantone_367@mac.com writes: > My brother, an undergrad student at the University of > Georgia, brought me piles of records from Wuxtry -- REM, Pylon, Oh OK, > Kilkenny Cats, Love Tractor, etc. I love Wuxtry records...I bought the B-52's first DB Recs single there in 1997 for about 65 bucks, the most I've ever spent on vinyl (but I'd do it again). I am seriously considering getting certified in GA so I could take a teaching job in Athens. It's still an artistic hub with bands coming in all the time. I saw Kilkenny Cats in Greenville in 1988 I think it was, (when the HAMMER lp was released) and I remember the singer being so wasted drunk, that all he said during the whole set was "tip your bartender" once. I saw Love Tractor when THEMES FROM VENUS came out and I approached the band for autographs and the sax player said, "You got this on CD? WE don't even have this on CD." That was weird. And so ended my short flirtation with being on the cutting edge of technology. Thanks for the recollections. I wanted to go to UGA so badly when I was in h.s. but the admissions counselor came to my school and saw my grades and said, "Maybe you could transfer in." Getting into UGA out of state requires like, a 3.5 gpa and lots of bucks. - --Mark S. np: Lisa Loeb THE WAY IT REALLY IS (yeah, she's the Laura Petrie of rock, but this is a really good record) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 01:27:47 EDT From: LkDylaninthmvies@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] 1985... why did it have to be 1985? In a message dated 9/4/04 3:27:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time, richard@richblath.fsnet.co.uk writes: > I was still a year or so away from discovering the Triffids, who remain one > of the all-time greats, imo They never seemed to grab a cult following here. CALENTURE was a good record. - --Mark S. ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V4 #242 *******************************