From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V4 #227 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Friday, August 20 2004 Volume 04 : Number 227 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [loud-fans] so I'm going to Toronto 8/22 - 8/25 and... [Phil Fleming ] Re: [loud-fans] so I'm going to Toronto 8/22 - 8/25 and... [Stewart Mason] Re: [loud-fans] Lolita Nation: remastered by a gerbil on an exercise wheel [LkDylaninthmvies@aol] Re: [loud-fans] Lolita Nation: remastered by a gerbil on an exercise wheel [Jenny Grover Subject: [loud-fans] so I'm going to Toronto 8/22 - 8/25 and... ...I'm curious about things to do. Any record stores I should visit, places to eat, things to see, etc.? Any loudfans in the area? I'd love to meet you! Phil F. NP... Sonic Youth - SONIC NURSE Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 02:18:05 -0700 From: "me" Subject: [loud-fans] accordions? anyone know anythign about accordions/concertinas? recommendations, advice, etc - looking for that eastern european sounds... i think it'll be a piano accordion. offlist is just fine... - -- An attitude of permanent indignation signifies great mental poverty. Politics compels its votaries to take that line and you see their minds growing more and more impoverished every day, from one burst of righteous anger to the next. Paul Valery, Tel Quel ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 13:33:00 -0400 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: [loud-fans] so I'm going to Toronto 8/22 - 8/25 and... At 12:06 AM 8/19/2004 -0700, Phil Fleming wrote: >...I'm curious about things to do. Any record stores I >should visit, places to eat, things to see, etc.? Sadly, it's but a shell of its former self these days, but Sam the Record Man (on Yonge a block or two over from Eaton Centre) is still worth a visit, if only to see the giant spinning neon LPs on the front of the building. About a block away, on Edward Street about half a block off Yonge (between Sam's and Eaton Centre), there's a very good bookstore called, immodestly, The World's Biggest Bookstore. Other than that, Queen Street East is the main record store crawl, between Bathurst and Spadina. (Frankly, even QSE is getting pretty thin, record store-wise -- Penny Lane, long my favorite record store in Toronto, is sadly now gone) Start at Bathurst, work your way down the street until you get to Spadina, which is one end of Chinatown, and stop there for lunch. Eat anywhere. Seriously. We've yet to have a bad meal in Toronto's Chinatown. Um, lessee, other neighborhoods...Queen Street East is roughly equivalent to Harvard Square and Coolidge Corner: cleaned-up and a bit touristy, with the big national chains moving in to supplant the funky local shops. The rough equivalent to Central and Inman Squares is the Annex, which is Bloor Street between Bathurst and Spadina. Among other interesting places (go into Honest Ed's, just for a browse and a gawk -- trust me, you'll notice it), this is home to Country Style Hungarian Restaurant, the best restaurant in Toronto. Assuming that you're not a vegetarian, because you're screwed there if you are. Future Bakery is also good, particularly for desserts. The rough equivalent to Upper Newbury is Yorkville, which is Bloor Street between Avenue Road and Bay Street, about three side streets deep. More for window shopping, but the weekend brunch at Movenpick, on Yorkville Road, is a splurge that's totally worth it, especially if you go to the downstairs dining room. Food stuff: Downtown Toronto is covered in hot dog carts. Shockingly, the hot dogs are INCREDIBLY FREAKIN' GOOD. Best I've ever had, in fact, and a foot-long charcoal-grilled dog (with your choice of add-em-yourself condiments ranging from the basics to this odd corn relish I've never tried and, bizarrely, Bac-Os) will cost you a whopping two bucks Canadian at most carts. The other local food of great importance is the butter tart, which is kind of like a miniature pecan pie without the nuts. (Well, some of them have walnuts and/or raisins in them.) The ones at Second Cup, which are nearly as prevalent as Starbucks, are particularly nice. Doin' stuff: Take the streetcar out Queen St West and go to The Beaches, or take the ferry out to the Harbor Islands. Also, it's a completely touristy thing of course, but everyone should do the CN Tower at least once. Ranging further afield if you've got wheels, the Toronto Zoo (which is actually out in Scarborough) is excellent, and the McMichael Canadian Art Museum (out in Kleinburg, which is way to hell and gone) is just extraordinary: it's built in the middle of this gorgeous wooded area, and it houses a huge collection of the Group of Seven, who were Canadian post-impressionist landscape painters of the early 20th century whose stuff I adore. (Actually, it houses many of the GoS themselves -- several of them are buried in a little cemetary on-site!) That's more than enough, probably. S ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 16:32:00 EDT From: LkDylaninthmvies@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Lolita Nation: remastered by a gerbil on an exercise wheel In a message dated 8/18/04 9:57:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, d0mw@mwmw.com writes: > back that puppy up pronto! if it has holes in it now, they will > only get worse, and at some point you'll exceed the player's > ability to compensate. > Okay Doug, I will. I guess I shouldn't be using it as a strainer. High land, hard macaroni, - --Mark S. btw, sadly, I had to replace my little friend on the wheel powering my aging Presario 'cuz I tried to burn Ani DiFranco's entire catalog in a sitting and the little guy suddenly burst into flames "He was no stranger to the imprint of treadmarks on human flesh." (the narrator of CITY CONFIDENTIAL) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 21:38:23 -0400 From: Jenny Grover Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Lolita Nation: remastered by a gerbil on an exercise wheel Fortissimo wrote: >Also, the more something's compressed (the lower the difference between >quiet and loud sound), the "better" it sounds to most people. > Does it? It doesn't to me, and most music fans I know bitch about all the compression and "loudness" in modern recordings. It seems to suck the dynamic life out things for me. Jen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 23:57:00 -0500 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Lolita Nation: remastered by a gerbil on an exercise wheel On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 21:38:23 -0400, "Jenny Grover" said: > Fortissimo wrote: > > >Also, the more something's compressed (the lower the difference between > >quiet and loud sound), the "better" it sounds to most people. > > Does it? It doesn't to me, and most music fans I know bitch about all > the compression and "loudness" in modern recordings. It seems to suck > the dynamic life out things for me. "music fans" /= "most people" Otherwise, the charts would look quite a bit different! But don't look at me - I'm just repeatin' the conventional wisdom, boss. np: Lilys _The Lilys_ (yes, it's titled that way: British reissue of _Precollection_ - some rerecordings, 3 new tracks) - --------------------------- J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V4 #227 *******************************