From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V4 #206 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Thursday, July 29 2004 Volume 04 : Number 206 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: [loud-fans] Let's Active reissues/Waxwings ["Larry Tucker" Subject: RE: [loud-fans] Let's Active reissues/Waxwings > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-loud-fans@smoe.org [mailto:owner-loud-fans@smoe.org] On Behalf > Of LkDylaninthmvies@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 9:01 PM > To: loud-fans@smoe.org > Subject: [loud-fans] Let's Active reissues/Waxwings > > Are the LA reissues worth buying if you have the originals? Is the sound > quality improved? The IRS version of CYPRESS/AFOOT and the original BIG > PLANS > CD sound fine to my ears, but I think EVERY DOG would do well with a > remaster. Was that one reissued as well? I haven't seen it at the > store. Are there > extra liner notes or anything? I'm a sucker for a good remaster, but > sometimes, the difference in quality is so miniscule, (i.e. The English > Beat > catalogue from a few years back) I wish I'd just kept the original and > spent the 16 > bucks on something else. > > Also, is the new album by the Waxwings good, anyone? I loved the first > one. > The second was so-so to my ears. > According to Mitch the Collector's Choice reissues are just copies of the CDs released by IRS. The exception would be the two bonus tracks apiece on BIG PLANS and EVERY DOG. These were mastered for this release as no previous masters existed. Of these bonus tracks I think the only two essential ones are the ones on BIG PLANS. There is an early version of "Horizon" with Faye Hunter's original lyrics and the previously unheard "Invisisible Hills". "Invisible Hills" is a great song and worth having. Mitch was in communication with an Italian label No Tyme Records last summer which was working on a box set, but it appears that that has fallen through and won't happen. Larry please wake me up when the new Stringfellow album is over.....(yawn) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 09:14:13 -0500 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Let's Active reissues/Waxwings On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 00:58:39 EDT, JRT456@aol.com said: > In a message dated 7/27/04 11:37:17 PM, smholt@ix.netcom.com writes: > the Jap. mini-LP edition of AT BUDOKAN earlier this evening. (75% > discount, > courtesy of a Virgin Megastore employee who left some "75% Off" stickers > laying > around the store earlier this month.) You should've taken one of those to the nearby Jaguar dealership... - ------------------------------- ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: Some days, you just can't get rid of a bomb :: --Batman ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 08:42:39 -0700 From: "Bradley Skaught" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Home recording? >Digital Performer by MOTU also has a lot of fans in the >Mac > world, and it gets quite good reviews. While i'm not a fan of computer recording at all, I did a fair amount of work in Digital Performer when I was playing with Yuji Oniki. Of all the computer recording programs i've used, that one seemed the most musician friendly right out of the box and we had no problem sending tracks all over the world to different programs and systems. B - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.716 / Virus Database: 472 - Release Date: 7/5/2004 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 08:43:38 -0700 From: "Bradley Skaught" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Let's Active reissues > Are those albums pretty rare now? No, they're a dime a dozen. Well, more like a $1.95! B - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.716 / Virus Database: 472 - Release Date: 7/5/2004 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 10:17:14 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: [loud-fans] Home recording (how lo-fi can you go?) Home recording/computer: I'm borderline illiterate myself, so sometimes I've found that the stuff that works best for me is improvised in a way that's borderline abuse of the equipment, and when I get fancy new shit it screws up my whole system. Mark, sounds like your planned recordings are on the approximately same level as mine (quick, mostly acoustic with some neanderthal drum loops to keep tempo, untreated vocals, occasional fiddly bits of lead guitar, tambourine, banjo, etc.) so maybe this is relevant. I was perfectly happy with a really old Protools demo I picked up from a friend, which, while it had no eq's or effects, also had no limits on record time or number of tracks. Loaded that on my wife's G3 laptop, which had something I don't think you'd ever see any more: a stereo miniplug input jack for analog audio. Wheee! From there I just used my rusty old gear from back in the day... a little four channel mixer for an amp, the Shure mics that go with my PA, and, like, my own instruments, amps and miserable whine. Nowadays I don't think any manufacturer would allow for the possibility that you might want to just drop analog audio onto your computer directly like that. I think you'd probably have to buy some crazy outboard thingy and god knows what software to support it, just to get a signal onto your drive (someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I know my G4 don't cut it). But I loved me my miniplug input on that ol' G3. Made digitizing vinyl and cassettes a breeze, too. Sadly, the old girl no longer sees eye-to-eye with her disc burner, so while I can still record this way, I've lost the ability to output the results. Haven't tried too hard, though. I've seen a friend demo Garage Band. Could be cool, but it seems very consumer-oriented and laden with presets which might make most results sound really, erm, Garage Band-y. Dunno what it has in the realm of analog input options, but there must be something because I imagine most folks using are gonna wanna have vocals somehow... - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 11:03:26 -0700 (PDT) From: "Joseph M. Mallon" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Home recording (how lo-fi can you go?) On Wed, 28 Jul 2004, Rex.Broome wrote: > Nowadays I don't think any manufacturer would allow for the > possibility that you might want to just drop analog audio onto your > computer directly like that. Our G5 has a stereo miniplug line input. I'm not sure if the G4 Powerbooks had one, but I'd bet the desktops did. Joe Mallon jmmallon@joescafe.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 22:13:32 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Home recording (how lo-fi can you go?) On Jul 28, 2004, at 1:03 PM, Joseph M. Mallon wrote: > Our G5 has a stereo miniplug line input. I'm not sure if the G4 > Powerbooks had one, but I'd bet the desktops did. Apple has the habit of changing things from model to model, so you can never be sure. Versions tend to get nicknames, and one G4 was called the "digital audio". You guessed it, no analog in. But someone made a little control device that provided that function. The Mac oriented companies tend to do that when The Steve releases something with a quirk. - - Steve __________ "We're not attacking Islam, but Islam has attacked us. The God of Islam is not the same God," the Rev. Franklin Graham, who spoke at President Bush's inauguration, said recently. "He's not the son of God of the Christian or Judeo-Christian faith. It's a different God, and I believe it is a very evil and wicked religion." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 00:28:10 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: [loud-fans] they have 200 couches I have seen the present of rock 'n' roll, and it is Interpol. They were the penultimate main stage act at tonight's edition of the Curiosa festival, and they just wrecked the place. Their 40-minute set was one of the most intense, exciting performances I've ever witnessed. I had keenly anticipated seeing the Cure tonight, since I've been a fan for years 'n' years but never caught 'em live. Sure enough, Robert Smith and the boys played an excellent headlining set, but really, Interpol was the story tonight, and the Cure's set ended up being... well, not an anticlimax, as that would imply some fault on the part of the Cure, but a sort of lovely denouement. This wasn't a total bolt from the blue, since TURN ON THE BRIGHT LIGHTS was not only a favorite of mine in 2002 but has stayed in my regular rotation, but I'd heard both good and bad things about their live performances, so I wasn't expecting something as special as I saw tonight. I'm still blown away. I could have left after Interpol's set and had my money's worth. It was the sort of performance that reminds me why I still go to shows -- all my griping about ticket prices and parking hassles and dumbass audience members and being out late on a weeknight, it all dissolved into nonexistence in the first ringing note of "Obstacle #1." Simply amazing. If the rest of the new Interpol album (scheduled for a Sept. 28th release in the U.S.) is on a par with the new songs from tonight's set, I may well have a new favorite band. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 02:27:49 EDT From: LkDylaninthmvies@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Let's Active reissues In a message dated 7/28/2004 11:58:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time, treesprite@earthlink.net writes: > No, they're a dime a dozen. Well, more like a $1.95! > > B > Not in Greenville, SC they ain't. If you see a copy of either of these come into your store please let me know. - --Mark S. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 02:35:55 EDT From: LkDylaninthmvies@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Let's Active reissues In a message dated 7/28/2004 9:46:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ltucker@townofchapelhill.org writes: > The exception would be the two bonus tracks > Where is that cover photo taken on BIG PLANS? That's a great picture. Fits the mood of the record perfectly. Is that in NC somewhere? - --Mark S. ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V4 #206 *******************************