From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V4 #193 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Friday, July 16 2004 Volume 04 : Number 193 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [loud-fans] several cases of mistaken identity later... [Phil Fleming] Re: [loud-fans] several cases of mistaken identity later... ["Vallor" ] Re: [loud-fans] Mistaken Identity continued... ["Fortissimo" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 23:53:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Phil Fleming Subject: Re: [loud-fans] several cases of mistaken identity later... This surprises me a little... considering how their vast 'miscellaneous' sections (following each letter of the alphabet) the discs have been stuck in almost any order. I've never been yelled at by the employees there, but I have been given strange looks when I commented on their order of things (especially their cassettes...which is more and more of an afterthought with each passing month) to other people that have been with me at the time. Phil F. - --- Stewart Mason wrote: > My only problem with Disc Diggers, my local used CD > store of choice, is > that I have on at least three occasions been yelled > at by employees for > re-filing their CDs. It's always some variation on > "Sir, we keep our CDs > in very strict alphabetical order," followed by my > having to explain > something like "Yes, but this is a record by a group > called Girl of the > World called WONDERBOY and you seem to think it's a > record by a group > called Wonderboy called GIRL OF THE WORLD." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 02:01:02 -0700 From: "Vallor" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] several cases of mistaken identity later... > 80s British Invasion wannabes Mosquitos vs. 00s indie-kids Mosquitos And Jad Fair, Steve Shelley and, I think, Tim Foljahn were Mosquito > There's an australian band called Glide that i've always wanted to hear, but > there's some other Glide that's got someone sort of well known in it and for > a long time, and maybe still, AMG combined the two in the actual band bio! > Somehow, the bio told the story of both bands simultaneously. Amazing. Will Seargent, of Echo & The Bunnymen records solo as Glide, I have a couple of records (on Ochre) - - Dan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 08:41:25 -0500 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] several cases of mistaken identity later... On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 02:38:27 -0400, "Jenny Grover" said: > Stewart Mason wrote: > > >I have more than once moved albums by the Soundtrack of Our Lives out of > >the Soundtrack section. > > One of the stores here routinely files Stereolab "Emperor Tomato > Ketchup" in the E's. I can't tell you how many times I've moved it. Draft Post-It Note, to be attached to said CD: Dear Moron: You work in a record store, and yet you apparently haven't heard of Stereolab, who've only gotten more press than nearly any other indie band outside perhaps Yo La Tengo (not Yo La Tango) and Pavement? PS: "Guided by Voices" is not a Christian rock act - ------------------------------- ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: Miracles are like meatballs, because nobody can exactly agree :: what they are made of, where they come from, or how often :: they should appear. :: --Lemony Snicket ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 11:46:15 -0400 From: "Aaron Milenski" Subject: [loud-fans] just curious (way off topic) Can anyone tell me exactly what Whoopi Goldberg said? _________________________________________________________________ Check out the latest news, polls and tools in the MSN 2004 Election Guide! http://special.msn.com/msn/election2004.armx ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 09:08:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Gil Ray Subject: Re: [loud-fans] several cases of mistaken identity later... Let us not forget.....Gil Ray(me) and The Gilrays(some band).... Gil Ray - --- JRT456@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 7/15/04 2:13:24 AM, > treesprite@earthlink.net writes: > > > > I know of, at least, three bands called Jet. Two > are from the seventies. > > The > > one I gave Steve is an amazing band with the > singer from John's Children and > > the original bassist from Sparks. I think they > sound more like glam-era > > Sparks than the kind kind of boogie AC/DC thing > the current Jet does. > > > That bassist is Martin Gordon, later of the fine > Radio Stars, and who has a > new album under his own name coming out in August. > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 13:36:47 -0400 From: Jenny Grover Subject: Re: [loud-fans] several cases of mistaken identity later... Fortissimo wrote: >Draft Post-It Note, to be attached to said CD: > >Dear Moron: > >You work in a record store, and yet you apparently haven't heard of >Stereolab, who've only gotten more press than nearly any other indie >band outside perhaps Yo La Tengo (not Yo La Tango) and Pavement? > >PS: "Guided by Voices" is not a Christian rock act > > They might have heard of Pavement, but maybe not. It's a used store, and it used to be pretty good, but has gotten increasingly mainstream and metal in what it will accept. I don't even go in anymore, because even if they have anything I want (which they didn't the last few times I was in) I can get stuff cheaper on half.com and because last time I was in there they had Nazi books. I'm actually the one who sold them said Stereolab CD, having to convince them this was not some ultra-obscure band. That was several years ago. Knowing this town, that CD is probably still there, and probably back in the E's. 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We were active in 1996 - 1997, and lo and behold, years later I found on the AMG that there was *another* band called the Carolinas active at the exact same time. So I fit into this category myself. My brother in law, Jonno Frishberg, has recorded in bands under his own name for years, but recently released a solo album under the name "Jonno". I submitted that album to the AMG, but last time I checked, the only "Jonno" they had was a gospel artist (although my brother in law has an entry for his membership in various Cajun bands under his real name). JRT: >>Since it's been playing while going through these e-mails, I'll note that >>Paul Collins' Beat just saw two fun '80s EP's reissued (or soon to be reissued) >>on a new CD from the Wounded Bird label. Always been curious about that band... didn't it feature Jimmy Ripp, who went on to be Tom Verlaine's substitute for Richard Lloyd on most of his solo records and tours? What's really interesting is when you're trying to come up with a band name and keep finding out (via AMG) that all of your very most absurd ideas are *already claimed*. Seriously. I was half-jokingly entertaining the name VIC-20, but guess what? Half of an electronica-DJ duo already. (The other half being, of course, Sinclair.) There's also Laika (the super wicked awesome one with Margaret Fiedler) and Laika and the Cosmonauts, which I figure for a surf-type thing. But if you wanna talk about perennial record store filing errors, I need to state my firm belief that every application for employment in such an establishment should include the following question: "True or False: John Cale and JJ Cale are in fact the same person." - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 14:37:23 -0400 From: Jenny Grover Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Mistaken Identity continued... Rex.Broome wrote: >But if you wanna talk about perennial record store filing errors, I need to state my firm belief that every application for employment in such an establishment should include the following question: "True or False: John Cale and JJ Cale are in fact the same person." > > Seems like all I was ever asked were things like could I work weekends, and "when can you start?" One store I worked in, it seemed like anyone the particular clerk filing things away had never heard of ended up in jazz, with some amusing results. Jen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 15:42:01 -0400 From: Jenny Grover Subject: [loud-fans] another doll dead New York Dolls Bassist Dead at 55 Thu Jul 15, 4:06 AM ET By Jonathan Cohen NEW YORK (Billboard) - New York Dolls bassist Arthur Kane died Tuesday night in Los Angeles due to complications from leukemia, the pioneering '70s glam rock group's manager told Billboard.com. Kane was 55. The reunited Dolls were fresh off a well-received appearance at Morrissey's Meltdown Festival in London last month and had also opened some of Morrissey's concerts in May in New York. It is unclear if the David Johansen-led group will still perform next month at Little Steven's International Underground Garage Festival in New York. The Dolls are scheduled to release an album for Morrissey's Attack imprint in September, but no details have been revealed. Johansen is understood to be in Paris and is preparing a statement on the group's future. Kane is the fourth member of the Dolls to pass away, including guitarist Johnny Thunders (news), who died of a drug overdose in 1991. Reuters/Billboard ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 15:00:59 -0500 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Mistaken Identity continued... On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 11:30:55 -0700, "Rex.Broome" said: > Wes: > >>There was another Cowboy Mouth - from Belgium or something like that.... > > Wow. The other one appeared right about the time I was in a band who had > a song called "Cowboy Mouth". And the name of that band was The > Carolinas. We were active in 1996 - 1997, and lo and behold, years later > I found on the AMG that there was *another* band called the Carolinas > active at the exact same time. So I fit into this category myself. The Carolinas on AMG were a Milwaukee band with Blow Pops connections (bassist Jack Rice), two of whom (Rice, Bob Eickhoff) went on to form the Lackloves with main Blow Pop Mike Jarvis. Damned Milwaukeeans... - ------------------------------- ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: crumple zones:: :: harmful or fatal if swallowed :: :: small-craft warning :: ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 16:56:05 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: Re: [loud-fans] several cases of mistaken identity later... On Thu, 15 Jul 2004, Jenny Grover wrote: > that CD is probably still there, and probably back in the E's. still on the me-me-me tip -- alice despard, late of hyaa! (a band that shared a producer with one mr. miller...) formed an outfit called whirligig pretty well simultaneously with the christening of a celtic outfit about 40 miles away with the same monicker. and for many years, the best band i'd ever shared a stage with was the high llamas, who had a record produced by ted nicley and featured no ex-micro-disney members. last, Jen reminds me that everyone in a while in a used record store i have seen what appears to be a very rare fugazi album entitled "marillion" the pathetic caverns: a zine - opinionated and eclectic reviews a studio - specializing in indie/rock/mobile/live/demo recording http://www.pathetic-caverns.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 14:33:42 -0700 From: Matthew Weber Subject: Re: [loud-fans] several cases of mistaken identity later... At 04:56 PM 7/15/2004 -0400, dmw wrote: >last, Jen reminds me that everyone in a while in a used record >store i have seen what appears to be a very rare fugazi album >entitled "marillion" Poor li'l Fugazi fans! They won't know what's happened...although, to be fair, it's usually easier to work out what's bothering Fish at any given moment than to decipher Ian's complaints. Matthew Weber Curatorial Assistant Jean Gray Hargrove Music Library University of California, Berkeley It is better to go to the house of mourning, than to go to the house of feasting. The Holy Bible (The Old Testament): _Ecclesiastes; or, The Preacher_ 7:2 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 17:49:23 -0400 From: Jenny Grover Subject: Re: [loud-fans] several cases of mistaken identity later... dmw wrote: >last, Jen reminds me that everyone in a while in a used record >store i have seen what appears to be a very rare fugazi album >entitled "marillion" > > Yeah, it shows up like that on used listings online, too. Jen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 15:14:54 -0700 From: Elizabeth Brion Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Mistaken Identity continued... My favorite misfiling is actually a book, not a CD - I saw it in multiple Borders stores, but I finally couldn't take it anymore and emailed them about it (ruining the fun for everyone else). If you looked in the mystery section for books by George P. Pelecanos, you would find them all except for "King Suckerman," which was filed under Suckerman. Sure, conceivably there could be an author named King Suckerman, but the idea that said author would write a book called "George P. Pelecanos" is endlessly amusing to me. They emailed me back and were all, "The title and author were in the same font, so we couldn't tell!" They are totally not in the same font. I think Jenny's "another doll dead" header would be a good band name, although maybe not for a band I personally would listen to. We're in LA on vacation this week, and I get to see both the Finn Brothers and the Magnetic Fields in the next 72 hours! (Oh yeah, and my brother-in-law's show in between.) I am unreasonably excited. E ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 21:41:52 EDT From: JRT456@aol.com Subject: [loud-fans] "Michael Nesmith Alert" ...as Miles of Music puts it, which is really just announcing some new Nesmith reissues, priced lower than through Nesmith's own site. http://store.milesofmusic.com/products.asp?dept=774 I still think the import twofers are a better deal, though. In that online-ordering spirit, the Tower site recently had an import sale at 25% off. I ran up about $400 while charging typically hard-to-find items they had listed as "Special Order," figuring there was no way they'd actually have them in stock. As it turns out, Tower seems to be exceptionally well-stocked with hard-to-find imports. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 19:30:45 -0700 From: "Bradley Skaught" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Mistaken Identity continued... > I get to see both the Finn > Brothers and the Magnetic Fields in the next 72 hours! Steve Holtebeck and I caught the Finn Brothers in SF on Tuesday, and they were amazing! Lots of great Split Enz songs and Tim still has the moves! B - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.716 / Virus Database: 472 - Release Date: 7/5/2004 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 01:15:27 EDT From: AWeiss4338@aol.com Subject: [loud-fans] Elliot Smith News On Oct. 19, on Anti Records, Elliot Smith's last album, From A basement On A Hill will be released. Track listing is this: coast to coast let's get lost pretty (ugly before) don't go down strung out again fond farewell king's crossing ostriches & chirping twilight a passing feeling last hour shooting star memory lane little one a distorted reality is now a necessity to be free And bonus tracks as well. Can't wait to hear this. Andrea ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 01:49:49 -0400 From: Jenny Grover Subject: [loud-fans] coral fixation In the realm of "albums I wish I'd had last year because they would likely have made my top 15" is The Coral- Magic and Medicine. Sounds almost like some great lost Merseybeat record, especially "Don't Think You're the First." Low key, sometimes dark, lots of pretty tunes. I just keep playing it every night as I'm trying to wind down. Jen ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V4 #193 *******************************