From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V4 #131 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Friday, May 14 2004 Volume 04 : Number 131 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: [loud-fans] not as groovy ["Larry Tucker" ] [loud-fans] licking the soiled mink ["Fortissimo" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 08:26:12 -0400 From: "Larry Tucker" Subject: RE: [loud-fans] not as groovy Yeah it's back now, but for a while that it was completely gone. I'm doing about the same as you John, almost nothing but video downloads of late. My favorite so far being that BBC documentary on Captain Beefheart from the late 90's. Larry > -----Original Message----- > From: John F Butland [mailto:butland@nbnet.nb.ca] > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 4:48 PM > To: Larry Tucker; loud-fans@smoe.org > Subject: RE: [loud-fans] not as groovy > > > All sorts of 'em here: > > http://www.sharingthegroove.org/msgboard/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=5 > > Although when drilling up through the message boards it did > disappear until I hit reload and voila, it was back. > > I find I'm downloading probably more video (measured by HD > space) than audio lately. > > Best, > > JFB > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-loud-fans@smoe.org [mailto:owner-loud-fans@smoe.org] On > Behalf > > Of Larry Tucker > > Sent: May 12, 2004 2:35 PM > > To: loud-fans@smoe.org > > Subject: [loud-fans] not as groovy > > > > Anyone else use sharingthegroove notice that you can no longer > download > > video bit torrents? What happened? I've found some really nice live > > things there over the past year and sure hate to see this go. > > > > Larry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 17:23:57 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: [loud-fans] for those still on emusic just learned about this: http://www.emusic.com/help/boostfaq.html the pathetic caverns: a zine - opinionated and eclectic reviews a studio - specializing in indie/rock/mobile/live/demo recording http://www.pathetic-caverns.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 17:00:10 -0500 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: [loud-fans] licking the soiled mink I can't remember if it was here or over on Fegmaniax (because both participants were on both lists), but Miles and Aaron Mandel were talking a while back about what's up with the phrases "mint car" and "mink car" both becoming titles of songs or albums within a short period of time. My theory is that "mint car" is more or less a common phrase (meaning "new"), and I think in some parts of the country, or in some demographics, "mint" has taken on slang connotations roughly eq. to "cool." The TMBG title, I'm guessing, came from a mishearing (intentional or otherwise) of "mint car": drop the "t" sound, since it's hard to articulate next to that "k" sound, and the "n" tends to slide toward an "ng" sound; run the two together and you get "mink car." Early artwork for _Mink Car_ literalized the title: there's an image of a stickshift emerging from a fur-covered, uh, whatever part of the car it is that a stickshift emerges from - but they moved away from that idea pretty quickly. - ------------------------------- ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: Some days, you just can't get rid of a bomb :: --Batman ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 22:30:49 -0700 From: Michael Zwirn Subject: [loud-fans] In memorium Last Friday I commemorated the yahrzeit, the year anniversary, of the death of a good friend of mine. You don't know him, most likely, but I want to share his story to honor his memory and perhaps share some thoughts. When I first met my friend, we were assigned to be roommates at an environmental studies program in Israel, so we had things in common already - the environment, Judaism, commitments to certain ideals about the Middle East that have become harder and harder to maintain. But our friendship deepened over ultimate frisbee, long hikes in the wilderness, and most of all, music. We discovered each other to be equally impassioned about our favorite artists, and equally curious about following music threads back to their common ancestry. I introduced him, a passionate fan of Pavement and Smog and Sebadoh, to Emmylou Harris and Steve Earle. He would later follow those roots backward, and introduce me to the original Gram Parsons and Townes Van Zandt recordings. He played me my first Sleater-Kinney and Magnetic Fields songs and earnestly studied Neil Young songs on his acoustic guitar. When my friend returned to the United States, he and his longtime girlfriend settled in the Bay Area, where I visited periodically. We caught shows at the Bottom of the Hill and went bowling late at night. He gave me the keys and I drove him and a friend across the Bay Bridge late one night. When he and his girlfriend married in July of 2002, I stayed up late with him and and his friends the night before, enthusiastically mangling Neil Young and Bob Dylan and "Smith and Jones Forever," by perhaps his favorite song. I knew he had suffered from headaches for years, and law school had been terribly stressful and unpleasant for him, but had not heard of the depth of his depression. Less than two months after I visited him in Oakland, and less than a year after his wedding, my friend killed himself. I'm sharing this story only because my friend was a wonderful, loving, considerate person, and because - despite all the obvious truth of the lesson - I wish I could have done something to help him. His wife, with all her love and patience and consideration, was unable to help him through this depression, but I can't help but believe that the more people out there who showed him understanding and patience and love, the better his chances would have been. His life was a blessing for the people who knew him; I wish he could have shared his life with more of us. If you know people with depression, please be as supportive and understanding and patient and loving as possible, not solely to the victim but to the family and loved ones. Thank you. Michael - --------------------- Michael Zwirn, michael@zwirn.com (t) 503-234-3901 (c) 503-887-9800 http://zwirn.com ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V4 #131 *******************************