From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V4 #126 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Saturday, May 8 2004 Volume 04 : Number 126 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [loud-fans] lots of talk about a guy named Miller, but don't worry! [] [loud-fans] The Horrible Truth About Burma's Discography ["Rex.Broome" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] lots of talk about a guy named Miller, but don't worry! On Fri, 07 May 2004 03:01:29 -0400, "Jenny Grover" said: > Fortissimo wrote: > > >Anyway, I'm trying to remember what band Ben Miller (one of Roger's bros) > >was in in Ann Arbor in the early '80s, when I was there. > > Allmusic lists him as having been a member of Sproton Layer, M-3, > Destroy All Monsters, Degeneration, and Twice Removed, but doesn't list > dates for any of them. Anything ring a bell there? Yep: Destroy All Monsters - which also featured Ron Asheton at some point (late of the Stooges). So there's your third-degree Burma/Iggy connection, if you're into that sort of thing. Curiously, DAM was discussed on the Robyn Hitchcock list a month or so back. - ------------------------------- ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: Solipsism is its own reward :: :: --Crow T. Robot ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 09:56:21 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: [loud-fans] The Horrible Truth About Burma's Discography Me, then Twee Boy: >> >>I'm changing my assessment of Matador from "the label where great >>>>bands go to die, the second time" to "the label where reunion albums >>>>magically don't suck, at all". >>Hi, What great bands died there, the second time? I don't understand. The Soft Boys! Jeff: >>Oh: and what is/was a "Mission of Burma" anyway? It shows up in some artwork as "Mission of Burma to the United Nations", so I'm guessing, yeah, a political envoy or sumthin'*. Ain't no Burma no more anyhow. I did read the Burma chapter in "Our Band Could Be Your Life", but I'd forgotten the explanation Stewart cited. That felt like one of the more cursory chapters, focusing almost as much on Rick Harte and the advent of independent labels as the band itself. Just to further murk up the waters re: the Burma discography... the odds and sods comp "Peking Spring" is *also* called "Mission of Burma" in some, if not the most common, issues, and the Ryko comp has the same title. The same record has also been issued in different formats as "Ten Song Cassette" and various other combinations of "(Number) Song (Format)". The cover depicted on the AMG is the one I have, which does not identify itself as "Peking Spring" on its spine or elsewhere IIRC. Meanwhile AMG says Rhino has issued this: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=UIDSUB040403221509383332&sql=Asy2zefrk3gfj ... which has less material, but prolly better sound than, their earlier comp, and a similar cover, but that's because both comps recycle cover art from the proper albums for bonus confusion. However, while AMG says this came out in March., I don't think it did (it's listed elsewhere as having a release date of Dec 31 2025!). Plus, the new album has some songs which showed up on the demos discs years ago as, well, demos. Basically, yeah, get the proper reissued albums. If that works for you, go on to the oddities collections, and forget all the compilations. Speaking of Volcano Suns... anyone got a digitized version of their album "Bright Orange Years"? It's never been issued on CD... I have a few songs from it on a cassette dub and like it far more than the other VS albums I've heard. - -Rex *If you're still reading, and crave yet more Burma cover art confusion, you're in luck. I think that the *vinyl* version of Forget, which I have somewhere, actually says on its cover "Mission of Burma / to the United Nations / Forget" on three consecutive lines, while the CD features identical design work but omits the middle line. When someone fails to ask me to comfirm this, I will fail to do so. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 12:30:50 -0500 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] The Horrible Truth About Burma's Discography On Fri, 7 May 2004 09:56:21 -0700, "Rex.Broome" said: > *If you're still reading, and crave yet more Burma cover art confusion, > you're in luck. I think that the *vinyl* version of Forget, which I have > somewhere, actually says on its cover "Mission of Burma / to the United > Nations / Forget" on three consecutive lines, while the CD features > identical design work but omits the middle line. When someone fails to > ask me to comfirm this, I will fail to do so. I'm pretty sure you've just logically enjoined yourself from *ever* confirming this - since it will always be the case that *someone* is failing to ask you to confirm this. What I would do, to avoid breaking my promise, is ask someone else to secure that vinyl copy and cover the offending line with duct tape. That way, I never will confirm it accidentally. Or you can just make a liar of yourself, and go on to a career in politics or meteorology. - ------------------------------- ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: crumple zones:: :: harmful or fatal if swallowed :: :: small-craft warning :: ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 13:56:39 -0400 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: [loud-fans] The Horrible Truth About Burma's Discography At 09:56 AM 5/7/2004 -0700, Rex.Broome wrote: >Just to further murk up the waters re: the Burma discography... the >odds and sods comp "Peking Spring" is *also* called "Mission of Burma" >in some, if not the most common, issues, and the Ryko comp has the same >title. The same record has also been issued in different formats as >"Ten Song Cassette" and various other combinations of "(Number) Song >(Format)". The cover depicted on the AMG is the one I have, which does >not identify itself as "Peking Spring" on its spine or elsewhere IIRC. I first owned this on cassette on Taang! -- I believe it was initially a cassette-only release, in fact -- and that release was simply called MISSION OF BURMA. (That's probably what's also referred to as "Ten Song Cassette," to differentiate it from the Ryko CD.) This predated the comprehensive Ryko comp, so when Taang! reissued the cassette on CD (I don't know if there was ever vinyl, but it's entirely likely) around 1990, they added the title PEKING SPRING to the CD spine, while leaving the cover the same, probably to warn people that it was just the cassette reissued. S ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 16:21:04 -0400 From: Jenny Grover Subject: Re: [loud-fans] The Horrible Truth About Burma's Discography Rex.Broome wrote: > I think that the *vinyl* version of Forget, which I have somewhere, actually says on its cover "Mission of Burma / to the United Nations / Forget" on three consecutive lines, while the CD features identical design work but omits the middle line. When someone fails to ask me to comfirm this, I will fail to do so. > > My vinyl copy has the same front cover artwork as the CD, only on the CD the blacks are metalicized. It says, on the front, "Mission of Burma/Forget". The back of the vinyl copy says "Forget Mission of Burma" across the top over the band photo. As for Peking Spring, I have the 10 song cassette and the vinyl, and both are just titled Mission of Burma. Jen ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V4 #126 *******************************