From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V4 #20 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Friday, January 23 2004 Volume 04 : Number 020 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [loud-fans] Joe Jackson - the new Brian Wilson? [Dave Walker ] Re: [loud-fans] Best of 2003 [Dan Schmidt ] [loud-fans] Best of 2003 ["Stefaan Hurts" ] Re: [loud-fans] Best of 2003 ["Stefaan Hurts" ] [loud-fans] The delicate art of mixing is dead--or no? [zoom@muppetlabs.c] [loud-fans] Darth Vader ["Stefaan Hurts" ] [loud-fans] Bands Reunited, and it feels so good... [George Mastalir ] Re: [loud-fans] Bands Reunited, and it feels so good... [Miles Goosens Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Joe Jackson - the new Brian Wilson? On Jan 21, 2004, at 6:53 PM, Michael Bowen wrote: > Joseph M. Mallon wrote: > >> Anyone else notice a number of Joe Jackson-type songs popping up of >> late? Ref. a couple songs from HEARTS OF OAK (incl. the title song), >> and "Stay >> Loose" from DEAR CATASTROPHE WAITRESS. Is it time to call it a trend >> yet? > > Can't say I hear it at all. Ted Leo has some of JJ's hectoring vocal > tone, but then he breaks into that godawful falsetto. And "Stay Loose" > doesn't sound like JJ, or really anything that I can think of, which > is why I like it. I thought "Stay Loose" was a great, lost Squeeze single, particularly in the verses. -d.w. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:00:10 -0500 From: Dave Walker Subject: [loud-fans] Weenie Intersection (iTMS RSS) For the vanishingly small number of people who a. Care about the iTunes Music Store and b. Run a news aggregator this seems pretty cool: http://www.plaidworks.com/chuqui/blog/001234.html -d.w. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:07:45 -0500 From: "Larry Tucker" Subject: RE: [loud-fans] resolved: 2004 sucks! > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-loud-fans@smoe.org > [mailto:owner-loud-fans@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Michael Wells > Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 9:07 PM > To: loud-fans@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [loud-fans] resolved: 2004 sucks! > > > Miles lists from 2003: > > 1) Wire, Send > > 6) Richard Thompson, The Old Kit Bag > > 13) Outkast, Speakerboxxx/The Love Below > > > Good Lord, three matches to my list. The apocolypse is nigh. > > > Aaron: > > Just to get the jump on whoever's planning to post, a year > from now, > > that nothing good came out in 2004, here are some of the > records I'm > > looking forward to... > > > Here's a few more... > > The Flatlanders new disc "Wheels of Fortune" comes out next > week, and what little I've heard sounds great. Joe Ely rides again. > > Grant-Lee Phillips' new solo release "Virginia Creeper" is > due in February. He's been streaming new tracks each Friday > and the results look mondo promising. > > Young folk ace Jeffrey Foucault will have taken three years > since the astonishing "Miles from Lightning" to release his > second effort, but it will be worth the wait. Between gigs > and tapes from the last couple years, I figure to have heard > most of the material in its rough form, and wow...it's gonna > be a stunner. The whole thing is done and in the can, he's > trying to settle on who will release it. No firm date yet. > > And it's not strictly new, but Midge Ure has a two-disc (one > is a VCD) live recording from the 1989 "Answers to Nothing" > tour coming out shortly. Presumbly in the latter we won't > catch any glimpses of Howard Jones, which would utterly spoil > my evening. > > Speaking of which, I see that Rick Springfield has something > called "Shock Denial Anger Acceptance" which is top-25 in > presale. I think that title will fairly accurately sum up my > stages in dealing with this news. > > > Michael "and don't get me started on Josh Groban" Wells In April there should be a new Shalini album, and based upon the demos I've heard I'd say it's even better than WWJD. http://www.dallowayrecords.com/dalloway.htm And I hear from Chris Stamey that his much delayed solo release, TRAVELS IN THE SOUTH, will finally come out this year on Yep Roc as well as the possibility of a live Mavericks album culled from the '91 tour. I'm hoping that it'll include some of the songs from the show he and Holsapple did at McCabes earlier this month. Larry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:28:36 EST From: DOUDIE@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Joe Jackson - the new Brian Wilson? In a message dated 1/22/04 9:50:46 AM, dwalker@freeke.org writes: > >> Anyone else notice a number of Joe Jackson-type songs popping up of > >> late? Ref. a couple songs from HEARTS OF OAK (incl. the title song), > >> and "Stay > >> Loose" from DEAR CATASTROPHE WAITRESS. Is it time to call it a trend > >> yet? > Not to mention Hot Hot Heat's MAKEUP THE BREAKDOWN on which the whole record sounds like Joe Jackson, with a pinch of Robert Smith thrown in. Steve ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 08:39:31 -0800 From: "Bradley Skaught" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Joe Jackson - the new Brian Wilson? >and "Stay Loose" from DEAR CATASTROPHE >WAITRESS. Is it time to call it a trend >yet? I thought it sounded like Protex! But, yeah, I hear the Joe Jackson sounds more and more. When I first heard Hearts of Oak I remember thinking it was everything I liked about the first two Joe Jackson albums combined with most of the kinds of things I like about great pop albums in general. I'm still amazed that no one thought to pursue some kind of deluxe edition reissue of his swing stuff when the big swing revival was happeing a few years ago--it seems like there's a Joe Jackson album for almost any neo-genre you could hope to cash in on! B ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 08:47:42 -0800 From: "Bradley Skaught" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] resolved: 2004 sucks! > And I hear from Chris Stamey that his much delayed > solo release, TRAVELS > IN THE SOUTH , will finally come out this year on Yep > Roc Folks who dig through bargain bins should keep an eye out for last year's Yep Roc sampler, Yep Roc Records Fortune Cookie--it has a track from TRAVELS... that is really phenomenal. It's called "14 Shades of Green" and it's a really inspired bit of Byrds-y/Fireworks-y pop--gorgeous guitar playing, of course. The '04 albums i'm most excited about so far are the new Morrissey, Finn Brothers, Trash Can Sinatras, Spoon and Libertines records. And Oasis. I hope someone puts the Elliott Smith album out, too--that single, "Pretty (Ugly Before)" was really stunning and felt like such a ray of light before it suddenly felt like such a sad twilight. The new John Vanderslice is sounding good so far and the "new" Mekons is hilarious and cool. B ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 12:18:31 -0500 From: "Larry Tucker" Subject: RE: [loud-fans] resolved: 2004 sucks! > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-loud-fans@smoe.org > [mailto:owner-loud-fans@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Bradley Skaught > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 11:48 AM > To: Loud Fans > Subject: Re: [loud-fans] resolved: 2004 sucks! > > > > And I hear from Chris Stamey that his much delayed > > solo release, TRAVELS > > IN THE SOUTH , will finally come out this year on Yep > Roc > > Folks who dig through bargain bins should keep an eye out for > last year's Yep Roc sampler, Yep Roc Records Fortune > Cookie--it has a track from TRAVELS... that is really > phenomenal. It's called "14 Shades of Green" and it's a > really inspired bit of Byrds-y/Fireworks-y pop--gorgeous > guitar playing, of course. > Bradley, that is a great song, but I think the orginal version from his self titled ALASKA ep released in '95 or so on the Hello Recording Label was better. I think the new version he tinkered with too much with additional guitar dubs and such and that it lost some of it's snap. Guess that can be a problem when your studio is in your house. I can't wait to hear the studio version of a song I heard him do live last year called "Spanish Harlem" in which Chris said he, to some extent at least, was trying to convey what it was like when he first moved from rural NC to metro NYC. LT ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 09:34:17 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: [loud-fans] Rora Vs. Powerman and the Moneygoround >>My Kinks rows (yes, I have so many Kinks CDs that they take up more than >>one row of a drawer, even in my capacious Can-Am cabinet) are more >>uniform than they used to be, thanks to the '98-'99 Castle and Velvel >>reissue campaigns. I used those reissues mostly to fill in holes, partly out of laziness, cash-poor-ness, and the weirdness/rareness of some of the other versions I'd accrued over the years, like the rather-complete-but-oddly-sequenced original Rhino comps of all the early work, and my Japanese twofer of Kontroversy/Face to Face, purchased back when that was amazingly the only CD pressing of either record. Bonus treat: Engrish lyric sheet! >>the CD I popped out of the computer to make way for GREENDALE was, >>coincidentally, the much-loathed re*ac*tor, which is one of my very favorite >>Neil products. I used to *love* re*ac*tor, and while I've sort of cooled on it over the years (notably since hearing some superior live versions of Shots, sans irritating sound effects), I still hold it to be highly (savagely?) underrated. >>Anyway, unlike Rex and despite my tendencies that I previously >>labelled "fogeyish," I enjoyed quite a few albums in 2003, and up through >>my #16 (Starlight Mints' BUILT ON SQUARES), I don't find any of the entries >>problematic at all. That's not far off my count, really, considering that some of the lower records on my list are climbing, and there still are a few out there I've yet to pick up but for which I have hight hopes. And a few that I need to revisit, too. >>GREENDALE's narrative is by turns problematic (it's incomplete even if >>you've seen it "performed"; the chronology is way off -- *Grandma* is still in >>the summer of love but her son's a Vietnam vet?) What the hell is the letter from Lenore? I searched high and low for some explanation on that one. and simplistic (easy pro-environment and anti-media stances). And the studio performances seem a bit undercooked. >>I love it when Neil sings "Carmichael, you asshole!" That's just such an affecting, nuanced song, detailed and touching... is it telling that it's a departure from the Green family narrative with the overtly symbolic characters? I'd say yeah. Neil writes a eulogy for a cop, and it works? Cool. That's something new. >>The loose acoustic guitar string vibrating low on "Bandit." Neil's sweet, hushed >>vocal on that same song, and the backing vocals. Another beauty, though again if it's about one of the Greendale characters, I've no idea which one. >>Plus I'm an outright sucker for the basic Neil electric sound. And there you have it. And yeah, that live presentation (which had its weird problems with the actors etc. as well, although even that was like nothing I'd ever seen before) was really delivered with commitment and clarity-- sounded great-- and I really relished my first "Neil screws with every expectation of his presumed audience" experience. Big points for that. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 12:53:23 EST From: DOUDIE@aol.com Subject: [loud-fans] Best of 2003 I'm glad DEAR CATASTROPHE WAITRESS is finally getting some props around here. Here's my list: 1. Belle and Sebastian- Dear Catastrophe Waitress 2. Outkast- Speakerboxx/The Love Below 3. Metric- Old World Underground, Where are you now? 4. The Clientele- The Violet Hour 5. The White Stripes- Elephant 6. New Pornographers- Electric Version 7. Spiritualized- Amazing Grace 8. Robert Wyatt- Cuckooland 9. Snow Patrol- Final Straw 10. Liz Phair- Liz Phair 11. Tris McCall- Shootout at the Sugar Factory 12. Radiohead- Hail to the Theif 13. The Lilys- Precollection 14. The Webb Brothers- The Webb Brothers 15. Hot Hot Heat- Make up the Breakdown 16. Lyle Lovett- My Baby Don't Tolerate 17. Jet- Get Born 18. Cat Power- You Are Free 19. Fleetwood Mac- Say You Will 20. The French- Local Information It is ridiculous how many records are released each year. I could have gone on until 30 before I got to any records that are seriously flawed. I guess people were disappointed with the Clientele's THE VIOLET HOUR as I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere. I love it. The House Always Wins really reminds me of Galaxie 500 in the ON FIRE era. Also, no mention of Metric here. It's a fantastic record. The lead singer Emily Haines apparently is on the Broken Social Scene record. OLD WORLD UNDERGROUND, WHERE ARE YOU NOW? is lyrically brilliant and incredibly catchy. The new Snow Patrol and Webb Brothers' records haven't been released stateside yet, but they are both excellent. My singles list will have to come post Critics poll. The Critics poll is a long survey that Tris and I and various people have been filling out yearly. Fill it out at: http://trismccall.net/critics_poll_form.html As far as 2004, I can't wait to hear the new Air record. I think it is coming very soon. Also, keep an eye out for the Secret Machines, a now Brooklyn based band from Texas that blew me away at a show last month. They are equal parts, Air, Spiritualized and Interpol (well they have that repeated riff thing going on sometimes). They're on Columbia but their record release keeps getting delayed. Cheers, Steve Matrick ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 12:34:02 -0600 From: Chris Prew Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Secret Machines > Also, keep an eye out for the Secret Machines, a now Brooklyn > based band from Texas that blew me away at a show last month. They > are equal > parts, Air, Spiritualized and Interpol (well they have that repeated > riff > thing going on sometimes). They're on Columbia but their record > release keeps > getting delayed. > I agree with the above. Appeals to my post-rock side and my pop side at the same time. I dig it. They have a cool website too: http://www.thesecretmachines.com, unsurprisingly. Emusic users can get a taste of their really nice first effort, September 000. If you need a six track download, go get it! Chris who hasn't heard enough 2003 music this year to create much of a list. Things I dug were: Explosions in the Sky: The Earth is Not a Cold Dead Place New Pornographers... The Stills: Logic Will Break Your Heart Mono: One Step More and You Die Polysics: Neu and lots of older stuff. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:54:02 -0500 From: Dan Schmidt Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Best of 2003 DOUDIE@aol.com wrote: >Also, no mention of Metric here. It's a fantastic record. The lead singer Emily Haines apparently is on the Broken Social Scene record. OLD WORLD UNDERGROUND, WHERE ARE YOU NOW? is lyrically brilliant and incredibly catchy. > > I just started listening to the Metric record the other day and I agree completely. It's a really interesting take on a 80s sound, and executed very well. After some recent aural fatigue, this one made me say "Hey, pop music is pretty great, isn't it?" again. Dan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:58:43 -0500 From: "Stefaan Hurts" Subject: [loud-fans] Best of 2003 Due to a serious cash flow problem last year, I hardly got to buy any music (so I just stole it. Just kidding!). In fact, trade figures for 2003 sank even lower than the murky depths of 1978, when I was still a wee young lad and I could only afford an album every couple of months (but, boys and girls, did I ever play those albums to death. Who needs E-Music anyway? ;) ). Of the four CD's I bought, only one would have made it to my top ten, and that would have been AUDIO BULLYS' _Ego War_, which I recently rescued from the cheapo bins in one of those horrid CD/Game Exchange stores. The more I play it, the more erm I can't stop playing it. Guess I enjoy listening to limeys trying to "sing" like Biz Markie. "What the fawk!!". The other three CD's I got last year, were APHEX TWIN's _26 Mixes For Cash_, YEAH YEAH YEAHS' _Fever To Tell_ and 5-ZIQ's _Bilious Paths_. Of the CD's my wife got, I enjoyed listening to ROONEY's self-titled debut album (good pop), SEX AND REVERB (also self-titled and also good pop) and bits of YEAR OF THE RABBIT's self-titled album, RADIOHEAD's _Hail The Thief_, the PERNICE BROTHERS' _Yours, Mine & Ours_ and A PERFECT CIRCLE's _Thirteenth Step_. Given the lack of funds for record buying the past year, I was really happy with the CD's that came with Jockey Slut magazine. Highly recommended to everyone who wants to stay up-to-date on the fun side of electronic music (or whatever you wanna call it). Oh, and my parents sent me a nice new CD by Belgian bluesman ROLAND VAN CAMPENHOUT called _Lime & Coconut_ and a recentish Oor (a Dutch music mag) in which I saw (ex-?)listie Ad Zwaga's name mentioned. So, not all that much new music for me, but I am sitting on a pile of gold in the shape of a stack of cheesy old vinyl albums that I got from various thrift stores in the land of Mary. THE CREW CUTS singing songs about being a healthy boy on campus, SAMMY DAVIS JR. singing the entire (!) Dr. Dolittle, RICHARD SIMMONS' _Reach_ (a classic, no?), and many, many more. Now, if only I could hook up my record player to my wife's stereo and if only I would have a CD recorder, then... I would be able to purge your ears from all that horrible music you've been listening to the past year and you would finally see, nay, hear the light. :) Toodlepip, - -Stef PS Whatever happened to Dana and his iPod? - -- Stefaan Hurts stef_hurts@fastmail.fm - -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Email service worth paying for. Try it for free ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:52:56 -0500 From: "Stefaan Hurts" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Best of 2003 On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:58:43 -0500, "Stefaan Hurts" said: > 5-ZIQ's _Bilious Paths_. I swear, that '5' wasn't there when I sent it! :) Toodlepip, - -Stef NP Punishment Of Luxury: Laughing Academy - -- Stefaan Hurts stef_hurts@fastmail.fm - -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access all of your messages and folders wherever you are ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:00:36 -0800 (PST) From: zoom@muppetlabs.com Subject: [loud-fans] The delicate art of mixing is dead--or no? http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2004/01/22/mix_tape_one/index.html http://salon.com/tech/feature/2004/01/22/mix_tape_two/index.html As the church lady used to say, "you decide," Andy Dud of the Month PHARMACISTS Hearts of Oak (Lookout) He abjures the slick. He honors the hook. He reckons the wages of imperialism. He spells forebears and forbearance correctly in the same sentence. So of course he's an Indie Hope. But his literate lyrics rarely hang together or hit home, and unless you miss Kevin Rowland more than Eileen ever did, his penchant for signifying commitment by vaulting up the scale is an annoying convention at best, an unlistenable tic at worstnamely, yoked to his limited melodic capacity on "Dead Voices," which has Indie Lifer stamped on its copyright notice. B - --Robert Christgau, from http://villagevoice.com/issues/0346/christgau.php ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 17:34:54 -0500 From: "Stefaan Hurts" Subject: [loud-fans] Darth Vader Wow, I just got a phone call from James Earl Jones! Apparently he's working for Verizon now. :> Toodlepip, - -Stef - -- Stefaan Hurts stef_hurts@fastmail.fm - -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Send your email first class ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:38:31 -0800 From: George Mastalir Subject: [loud-fans] Bands Reunited, and it feels so good... I just finished watching three episodes of the new vh1 series "Bands Reunited", and I can't believe just how great it is. The premise is kind of thin; the producer/host guy has one week to locate and persuade all of the original band members of some early 80's new wave band (so far Flock of Seagulls, Berlin and Romeo Void) to reunite for a single showcase. They rush around, literally sneaking up on these poor people at their homes and workplaces and put the former musicians on the spot telling them they have a venue already booked and asking if they are in or not. And I know this sounds kind of pathetic, but it's truly fascinating listening to each members back story and finding out just what they are doing today and for what reasons or under what circumstances they left the band. And I'm not sure if this was originally intended or expected, but the reunions have this amazing affect on these peoples lives, giving many of them a sense of closure on a period of their lives they had pretty much given up hope for. This is great television and I hope it does well. Any music fan will thoroughly enjoy the three episodes that have already aired. - --Lurker George ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 17:59:36 -0500 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Bands Reunited, and it feels so good... At 02:38 PM 1/22/2004 -0800, George Mastalir wrote: >This is great television and I hope it does well. Any music fan will >thoroughly enjoy the three episodes that have already aired. Tonight's episode, the girl group Klymaxx (wasn't "I Miss You" by them?), should prove to be entertaining as well, since there's apparently longstanding bad blood between the guitarist and the rest of the band. The promos, at least, have my favorite line of the show so far: "She's not armed, is she?...she IS?" S NP: FORGET THE LADDER, CLIMB THE WALL -- Girlboy Girl ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 17:07:56 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Bands Reunited, and it feels so good... At 02:38 PM 1/22/2004 -0800, George Mastalir wrote: >I just finished watching three episodes of the new vh1 series "Bands >Reunited", and I can't believe just how great it is. I forgot about it and missed Berlin's episode earlier this week, but have seen the following ones. I've enjoyed it so far. The Klymaxxx one tonight may turn into a trashtalking epic! Berlin's repeats tomorrow night, I think. I was really surprised on the Flock of Seagulls one at how much I enjoyed Paul Reynolds' playing. He suffered a breakdown in the '80s around the time he left the group, and since his occupation was listed as "freelance guitarist" *and* he said during the band rehearsal that he hadn't picked up a guitar in eight years, I suspect he's been on the dole and living with his mum in Liverpool. Yet when the band took the stage for their actual performance, he was spot on, nailing every solo and rhythm part, and even hitting his backup vocal cues. And for all the "synth pop" hype the band got, it was really clear in watching them that Paul's guitar and Frank Maudsley's bass were just as important as anything Mike Score did. Speaking of Mike Score, what the hell happened to him? In mid-2003, when G4 (the video game channel) had its awards show and a band was introduced as "A Flock of Seagulls," I thought at first that it was a joke, since every guy on stage looked like a paunchy refugee from a metal band and the singer had no discernable U.K. accent. But sure enough, that was Mike Score himself, looking like a WWF audience member and sounding like one too. I think the other three guys should hire a keyboard player and let Frank sing instead... Hey, someone on Audities suggested that they do a "Reunited" episode for... Game Theory! I hope that tick season is over when the cameras come to Unca Gil's door... Iran, so far away, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 18:07:53 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Best of 2003 On Thu, 22 Jan 2004, Dan Schmidt wrote: > I just started listening to the Metric record the other day and I agree > completely. It's a really interesting take on a 80s sound, and executed > very well. After some recent aural fatigue, this one made me say "Hey, > pop music is pretty great, isn't it?" again. I love the sound of that album; it always makes me want to get better speakers to hear it even better. Sadly, the lyrics and vocal melodies both seem kind of simplistic to me -- Haines' calling America "the Homeland" (yes, I know it's sarcastic) strikes me as really leaden, for example. And the best track, "Dead Disco", seems to be a swipe at a musical trend with more life in it than whatever Broken Social Scene is doing. Not a fogey, just kinda mean, aaron ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 17:31:09 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Bands Reunited, and it feels so good... Also, the initial crop of episodes features a pretty good crop of bands, which I will list in order of preference: DAMN GOOD Squeeze (wonder if they're angling for the Carrack version?) Dramarama HAD THEIR MOMENTS Romeo Void A Flock of Seagulls Frankie Goes To Hollywood Berlin Klymaxx The Alarm UMM... Kajagoogoo Extreme So only two outright clunkers out of 10, which is a much better quality of act than I expected. *However*, the poll they've got on the site for "which band would you like to see reunite?" indicates that the concept may head straight into the crapper when they do the next bunch. Here's their proffered choices (remember, not actual episodes *yet*, merely suggestions): Nu Shooz Expose Soul II Soul Europe Naked Eyes The Thompson Twins T'Pau 'Til Tuesday Vixen Winger I'd be down for a 'Til Tuesday episode, and I'd probably watch Soul II Soul and Thompson Twins episodes. But the rest of that list is pretty ugly, and not that far away from tapping Pretty Poison and L.A. Guns... later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:32:35 -0800 (PST) From: zoom@muppetlabs.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Bands Reunited, and it feels so good... > Tonight's episode, the girl group Klymaxx (wasn't "I Miss You" by them?), > should prove to be entertaining as well, since there's apparently > longstanding bad blood between the guitarist and the rest of the band. Yes, that was Klymaxx. A great Michael Jackson ripoff song, if I do say so myself. Lacking cable, I'm forced to vicariously participate in this show, though I picture the DVD emerging later this year. Saddest note so far: Romeo Void's Benjamin Bossi had to sit on the sidelines, too deaf and/or too drug-addled to blow his pterodactyl horn. Encouraging note: Terri Nunn is, according to my source anyway, "a good-looking fiftysomething." About what the guys at Golden Oldies say about Dolores Erickson, Andy a highlight for me was giving one of my mixCDs to a guy at an outdoor party last year, then suddenly he comes running over to me yelling "I'm Mr. Anus!" made my whole week gosh he looked pretty normal they always do - --from "a music fan"'s review of FLOWERS ON 45 by Happy Flowers, http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000000INT/qid=1074814285/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-3128254-3184721?v=glance&s=music ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:51:00 -0800 (PST) From: zoom@muppetlabs.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Bands Reunited, and it feels so good... > Here's their > proffered choices (remember, not actual episodes *yet*, merely > suggestions): > > Nu Shooz > Expose > Soul II Soul > Europe > Naked Eyes > The Thompson Twins > T'Pau > 'Til Tuesday > Vixen > Winger Oh, Thompson Twins I'd like to see/hear. A surprisingly spiritual band, even if it's hard to forgive the hats. T'Pau is still together, unless, as I gather is the case with Berlin, they're angling for "classic lineup" vs. "what you get at the Ballard Firehouse." Half of Naked Eyes is dead, so I have no clue what they're thinking. No sleep 'til the Happy Flowers episode, Andy "The only way to be cool is to buy this. Put down that milkcap and guitar string, and go get some money. I don't care how you get it, just get it, because everything depends on this. This cd will bring you eternal happiness, I swear. If you don't like it, you will soon. Just look at all those songs! All you'll ever need is this CD, some 3-D glasses and a bottle of soda pop to join you and your dog on the hamock. This is is the best album ever, beating even Ween and Negativeland with a big ol' stick of butter." - --"misterkris" from Palm Bay, Florida, reviewing FLOWERS ON 45 by Happy Flowers, http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000000INT/qid=1074815368/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-3128254-3184721?v=glance&s=music ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 16:00:35 -0800 From: "Michael Zwirn" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Bands Reunited, and it feels so good... - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Miles Goosens" Cc: "quercian rosicrucian psychobabble" Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 3:51 PM Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Bands Reunited, and it feels so good... > > Here's their > > proffered choices (remember, not actual episodes *yet*, merely > > suggestions): > > > > Nu Shooz If you're out in Portland, you'll know that the former lead singer has embarked on a seemingly successful jazz/lounge tour. I saw her do a credible "Star Spangled Banner" in a jazz style at a Blazers game. Michael - ------ Michael Zwirn, michael@zwirn.com http://zwirn.com (t) 503-232-8919 (c) 503-887-9800 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 19:10:58 -0500 From: "Paul King" Subject: RE: [loud-fans] resolved: 2004 sucks! > In April there should be a new Shalini album, and based upon the demos > I've heard I'd say it's even better than WWJD. > http://www.dallowayrecords.com/dalloway.htm It's too bad that the bio on the website doesn't mention Mitch Easter's contribution to GT/LF. Hmph ... Paul ========================================================= Paul King http://www3.sympatico.ca/pking123/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 14:57:00 -1000 From: "R. Kevin Doyle" Subject: RE: [loud-fans] Bands Reunited, and it feels so good... Andy replies to Miles: >> Here's their proffered choices (remember, not actual episodes *yet*, merely >> suggestions): >> >> Nu Shooz >> Expose >> Soul II Soul >> Europe >> Naked Eyes >> The Thompson Twins >> T'Pau >> 'Til Tuesday >> Vixen >> Winger > >Oh, Thompson Twins I'd like to see/hear. A surprisingly spiritual band, >even if it's hard to forgive the hats. T'Pau is still together, unless, >as I gather is the case with Berlin, they're angling for "classic lineup" >vs. "what you get at the Ballard Firehouse." > >Half of Naked Eyes is dead, so I have no clue what they're thinking. > >No sleep 'til the Happy Flowers episode Well, heck, I'll play the home version of the game. I think it is safe to assume that they are only interested in bands with videos which aired in the 1980s, at least at the moment. So - quality be damned - if they are hoping to take me to my 80's geek 120 Minutes heaven... Guadalcanal Diary (Heck, 'Always Saturday' was in heavy rotation for a while) The Replacements ("I'll be You" got some MTV airplay, as did "Answering Machine") The Housemartins (Would Fatboy Slim slum with his old mates? "Happy Hour" got some play) The Pogues ("Fairytale of new York" got some air, right?) Husker Du Inspiral Carpets Let's Active Bow Wow Wow (Another dead founding member, alas) The Smiths Adam and the Ants (in light of Adam's reported mental state it would be interesting) ABC (though I believe I heard they had reunited recently) Yazoo Laibach ...and the one band without which no reunion of bands would truly be complete, the surviving original line up of The Cars. Alas, Ben Orr. Now that that is out of my system... R. Kevin Doyle Honolulu, HI ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 18:17:15 -0800 (PST) From: Gil Ray Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Bands Reunited, and it feels so good... I'm loving this, too! I'm a bit embarrassed by the fact I've been moved to tears on each show... Especially the Romeo Void episode. So far, it seems that no matter how screwed up and hateful band members had been in the past, there are moments caught in the present of absolute happiness and gratitude. As much as I don't care for the in-your-face camera work, it has caught some devastatingly sweet and sincere moments. Side note! Right before I joined Game Theory, I chickened out of calling for an audition for...Romeo Void! It's good to be chicken! Gil - --- George Mastalir wrote: > I just finished watching three episodes of the new > vh1 series "Bands > Reunited", and I can't believe just how great it is. > > The premise is kind of thin; the producer/host guy > has one week to locate > and persuade all of the original band members of > some early 80's new wave > band (so far Flock of Seagulls, Berlin and Romeo > Void) to reunite for a > single showcase. > > They rush around, literally sneaking up on these > poor people at their homes > and workplaces and put the former musicians on the > spot telling them they > have a venue already booked and asking if they are > in or not. > > And I know this sounds kind of pathetic, but it's > truly fascinating > listening to each members back story and finding out > just what they are > doing today and for what reasons or under what > circumstances they left the > band. > > And I'm not sure if this was originally intended or > expected, but the > reunions have this amazing affect on these peoples > lives, giving many of > them a sense of closure on a period of their lives > they had pretty much > given up hope for. > > This is great television and I hope it does well. > Any music fan will > thoroughly enjoy the three episodes that have > already aired. > > --Lurker George __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 20:36:20 -0600 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Bands Reunited, and it feels so good... On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 17:31:09 -0600, "Miles Goosens" said: > Also, the initial crop of episodes features a pretty good crop of bands, > which I will list in order of preference: > > DAMN GOOD > Squeeze (wonder if they're angling for the Carrack version?) > Dramarama > > HAD THEIR MOMENTS > Romeo Void I'd actually say Romeo Void was at least as "damn good" as Dramarama - they succumbed to David Kahne Disease on their third album, but the first two and the EP are fine work indeed. I still remember, having heard "White Sweater" and "Never Say Never" on the radio, being shocked at the difference between my impression of what Deborah Iyall would look like and the reality. I hadn't thought of the way I'd been stereotyping voices and/or bodies until then... - ------------------------------- ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: Some days, you just can't get rid of a bomb :: --Batman ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 22:13:49 -0500 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Bands Reunited, and it feels so good... At 03:32 PM 1/22/2004 -0800, zoom@muppetlabs.com wrote: >Lacking cable, I'm forced to vicariously participate in this show, though >I picture the DVD emerging later this year. Saddest note so far: Romeo >Void's Benjamin Bossi had to sit on the sidelines, too deaf and/or too >drug-addled to blow his pterodactyl horn. The former, and unlike Roger Miller, he can't use those firing-range headphones to block the sound, because the sound is created in the hollows of his skull before it comes out the horn. >Encouraging note: Terri Nunn >is, according to my source anyway, "a good-looking fiftysomething." Good-looking, hell. She is now totally frickin' hot in a way that she NEVER was back in the day. She looks like a glam-punk Lauren Graham. I too would put Romeo Void well toward the top of my favorite bands in this lineup, second only to Squeeze. "Never Say Never" is only part of the story. S ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 19:14:24 -0800 From: "Bradley Skaught" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] resolved: 2004 sucks! > I think the orginal version from his > self titled ALASKA ep released in '95 or so on the > Hello Recording Label > was better. I think the new version he tinkered with too > much Stamey falls into my rare category of people who i'd rather have fiddle with their material too much. The immediacy of the dB's stuff is, of course, stunning and unbeatable, but I really love it when he goes to town and drenches a song in harmonies and guitar overdubs. I also remember having nothing but bad reactions to the Alaska EP--now i've got to go back and check it out again. Man, I can't stand Robert Christgau. B ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 20:20:10 -0800 From: Subject: RE: [loud-fans] Bands Reunited, and it feels so good... > I'm loving this, too! I'm a bit embarrassed by the >fact I've been moved to tears on each show... I'm glad Im not the only one this is happening to! My tears aren't just from being moved by seeing the band members' reactions, but unfortunately, I keep getting upset because I feel so old! Being 32, I guess I'm not *that* old, but after I turned 30 my outlook on life has never been quite the same. As for bands I'd like to see reunited, I would love to see Naked Eyes, actually. I am aware that one half of them are dead, but I think their self-titled release was one perfect album back in the day. I don't like it any less these days, either. The other band I would have died to see reunited is Duran Duran, but fortunately, that's already happened. I spent the night on Sunset Blvd. last summer in an attempt to get tickets for their reunion show at the Roxy (blush). At least that wasn't a one-time event, because I didn't get tickets, even after waiting for 10 hours. I did catch them at another show soon afterward though. It was quite phenomenal and it finally sealed that "gap" in my musical history. Terri Nunn is fiftysomething?!? She looks like she could be thirty! I just got cable again after being without it for over a year. At first, I was disappointed at how much VH-1 had gone downhill. It seemed like they were producing new shows on everything *except* music. If I really wanted to learn about the life of Paris Hilton or watch a countdown of the Top 50 Hottest People, I would watch E! already! So, it's very nice to see a show such as this one come along. BTW, have any of you L.A. folk listened to Indie 103? Any reactions? I'm loving it, and yes - I do know who is behind it! Michele ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 21:06:16 -0800 (PST) From: Gil Ray Subject: RE: [loud-fans] Bands Reunited, and it feels so good... - --- septembergurl@mindspring.com wrote: >> I'm glad Im not the only one this is happening to! > My tears aren't just from > being moved by seeing the band members' reactions, > but unfortunately, I keep > getting upset because I feel so old! Being 32, I > guess I'm not *that* old, > but after I turned 30 my outlook on life has never > been quite the same. Gulp. Just wait 'til you're 47.. :) Gil __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V4 #20 ******************************