From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V3 #376 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Tuesday, December 30 2003 Volume 03 : Number 376 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [loud-fans] Tinker forever by chance (loudly)? [wsilvers@earthlink.net] Re: [loud-fans] Tinker forever by chance (loudly)? [Miles Goosens Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Tinker forever by chance (loudly)? At 02:49 PM 12/29/2003 -0600, wsilvers@earthlink.net wrote: >Like Mr. Miller, I too would like to see an opinion or few that've had some >thought put into them. Somewhere I've saved a post of Miles on this, but if >he'd like to remind me, or anybody else has opinions? What I had done was a track listing for a cassette, THE TAPE OF ONLY SCOTT SONGS, which had one side of GT, the other of the LF. I came up with it just after IBC, so there was nothing from DFD or AN. I should rethink it as two 80-minute CDRs, and come up with an expanded track list. Don't seem to have the original listing handy on the computer; I'll do some searching tonight and re-post it. I can say right now that "Good, There Are No Lions in the Street," "Deee-pression," and "Years of Wrong Impressions" are *locks* to be added. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 15:19:38 -0800 From: Michael Mitton Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Tinker forever by chance (loudly)? Well, I don't have any thought-out opinion on a LF collection, but I do have a question. I've always thought that the name "Tinker to Evers to Chance" was a clever name for a "greatest hits" album, since it's a reference to one of the great combinations in baseball that actually kept people from getting hits (or, turned what could have been a hit into a two-out disaster). Was this connection intended? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 15:57:11 -0800 (PST) From: Gil Ray Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Tinker forever by chance (loudly)? Yes, Scott knew what it meant. I think he may have actually played baseball in school (?) Gil - --- Michael Mitton wrote: > Well, I don't have any thought-out opinion on a LF > collection, but I do > have a question. I've always thought that the name > "Tinker to Evers to > Chance" was a clever name for a "greatest hits" > album, since it's a > reference to one of the great combinations in > baseball that actually > kept people from getting hits (or, turned what could > have been a hit > into a two-out disaster). Was this connection intended? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 16:01:18 -0800 (PST) From: "Joseph M. Mallon" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Tinker forever by chance (loudly)? On Mon, 29 Dec 2003, Miles Goosens wrote: > I should rethink it as two 80-minute CDRs... Who does Scott think he is - OutKast? ;) It's sad no one thought to put out an album whose title could be easily altered to include our dog's name, like last year's YANKEE HOBIE, er HOTEL, FOXTROT. Closest I can think of - HEARTS OF HOBES. Newest arrival to rock, er, twee-rock our house - DEAR CATASTROPHE WAITRESS. Took a couple spins to catch on, but it's pretty good, if you like their stuff. Also mega-not-naff: the MARQUEE MOON reissue. Belle Da Gama's new songs sound a bit Television-y, in a really good way. Joe Mallon jmmallon@joescafe.com np: "Some Velvet Morning" - what a wacky-ass song! Red Meat does a great cover of this... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 16:13:09 -0800 From: Steve Holtebeck Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Tinker forever by chance (loudly)? Michael Mitton wrote: > Well, I don't have any thought-out opinion on a LF collection, but I do > have a question. I've always thought that the name "Tinker to Evers to > Chance" was a clever name for a "greatest hits" album, since it's a > reference to one of the great combinations in baseball that actually > kept people from getting hits (or, turned what could have been a hit > into a two-out disaster). Was this connection intended? I think so. Scott said in an interview at the time that he thought that was an apt name for a greatest hits album by a band that didn't have any hits, because by hitting into a double play, not only do you not get a hit, but someone else makes a hit. So if that well-thought out LF collection needs a title, I will suggest "Ruthlessly Pricking Our Gonfalon Bubble" (another line from that poem). Choosing the title is half the work, - -Steve ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 16:18:06 -0800 (PST) From: "Tim Walters" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Tinker forever by chance (loudly)? I think somebody appropriate should do a best-of album called POP FLIES, which would simultaneously announce the genre and the fact that the songs weren't hits. If they recorded it on an airplane, it would be even better. - -- THE DOUBTFUL PALACE Free exquisite music http://www.doubtfulpalace.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 18:54:59 -0600 (GMT-06:00) From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Tinker forever by chance (loudly)? Joe: >On Mon, 29 Dec 2003, Miles Goosens wrote: >> I should rethink it as two 80-minute CDRs... > >Who does Scott think he is - OutKast? ;) Maybe Alison should tackle the second disc... :-) But seriously, of course I was thinking one CD-R *each* for GT and the LF. As for the Loud Family side of the c. '97 tape, I'm now home and here 'tis: Sodium Laureth Sulfate My Superior Spot the Setup Some Grand Vision of Motives and Irony Don't Respond, She Can Tell Rise of the Chokehold Princess Still Its Own Reward The Second Grade Applauds Sword Swallower Don't Thank Me All At Once Where They Go Back To School But Get Depressed Jimmy Still Comes Around Just Gone Ballet Hetero As ever, the goal was to build from a core of songs I *had* to have ("Spot the Setup," "Don't Respond," "Chokehold Princess," "Where They Go Back To School," "Jimmy," "Just Gone") to try to make a listening experience that flowed, rather than necessarily trying to put together the 14 *best* LF songs. So, time for me to break out the LF CDs and rethink the track listing... later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 19:09:27 -0800 (PST) From: Gil Ray Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Tinker forever by chance (loudly)? - --- "Joseph M. Mallon" wrote: > np: "Some Velvet Morning" - what a wacky-ass song! > Red Meat does a great > cover of this... Vanilla Fudge covers t also. Nuttin' like Red Meat though... Gil __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 19:44:19 -0800 From: Steve Holtebeck Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Tinker forever by chance (loudly)? Gil Ray wrote: > --- "Joseph M. Mallon" wrote: > > np: "Some Velvet Morning" - what a wacky-ass song! > > Red Meat does a great > > cover of this... > > Vanilla Fudge covers it also. Nuttin' like Red Meat though... Firewater also covered it on SONGS WE SHOULD HAVE WRITTEN. And Thin White Rope and Peter Zaremba's Love Delegation covered it too. And these three versions are all on Emusic. > It's sad no one thought to put out an album whose title could be easily > altered to include our dog's name, like last year's YANKEE HOBIE, er > HOTEL, FOXTROT. Closest I can think of - HEARTS OF HOBIE. Ted Leo's "Tell Balgeary.." ep was also added to Emusic recently. No "Some Velvet Morning", but it does have Ted's Version of "Ghosts" (The Jam), "Six Months in a Leaky Boat" (Split Enz), and "Dirty Old Town" (Ewan MacColl via The Pogues), as well as some new and remade originals. Anyone who's downloading this can skip tracks #1,7, and 10 (album version of the title track and two pointless noise tracks) and download the others one at a time, especially now that Emusic charges by the track. - -Steve ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 20:12:10 -0800 (PST) From: zoom@muppetlabs.com Subject: [loud-fans] Behold! The movie I'm in, sort of, is now shipping! http://www.petting-zoo.org/Movies_Dreamquest.html http://www.petting-zoo.org/OrderForm.html Order your copy today, but don't forget your Aqua Teen Hunger Force, Andy Pop Star Michael Jackson's Spokesman Resigns 1 hour, 8 minutes ago Add Entertainment - Reuters to My Yahoo! 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