From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V3 #371 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Tuesday, December 23 2003 Volume 03 : Number 371 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [loud-fans] inane coincidence dept. [glenn mcdonald ] Re: [loud-fans] inane coincidence dept. ["Pete O." ] [loud-fans] 2003 poll open! [Aaron Mandel ] Fwd: Re: [loud-fans] music nerd and "score" in same sentence [Miles Goose] Re: [loud-fans] 2003 poll open! ["rwinston@tde.com" ] Re: [loud-fans] 2003 poll open! [dmw ] Re: [loud-fans] 2003 poll open! [Miles Goosens ] Re: [loud-fans] mix tape help ["John Swartzentruber" ] Re: [loud-fans] central CA folks? [Michael Mitton ] Re: [loud-fans] central CA folks? ["Joseph M. Mallon" ] Re: [loud-fans] central CA folks? [Elizabeth Brion ] Re: [loud-fans] 2003 poll open! [dmw ] Re: [loud-fans] 2003 poll open! [zoom@muppetlabs.com] Fwd: [loud-fans] Elliott Smith Tribute show at TT's [Michael Zwirn Subject: [loud-fans] inane coincidence dept. I just noticed that in my current draft of my 2003 album list, the artists in the first three slots also appear in consecutive alphabetical order in my iTunes library. It is unlikely that anybody in the world other than me finds this interesting, but if there is anybody else, they are probably on this mailing list... glenn ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:30:41 -0800 (PST) From: "Pete O." Subject: Re: [loud-fans] inane coincidence dept. - --- glenn mcdonald wrote: > I just noticed that in my current draft of my 2003 album list, the > artists in the first three slots also appear in consecutive > alphabetical order in my iTunes library. > > It is unlikely that anybody in the world other than me finds this > interesting, but if there is anybody else, they are probably on this > mailing list... > > glenn Automatically add 10% to quiz result. Super- to Mega- with one observation! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:34:03 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: [loud-fans] 2003 poll open! The ballot form is at http://www.eecs.harvard.edu/~aaron/poll/lf03 If you change your mind, you can just vote again under the same name (and I'll erase the first ballot) or email me. Voting will be open until the end of January. a ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 12:51:17 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Fwd: Re: [loud-fans] music nerd and "score" in same sentence I think Paul meant for this to go to the whole list... >From: "Paul King" >To: Miles Goosens >Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 17:53:30 -0500 >Subject: Re: [loud-fans] music nerd and "score" in same sentence >Reply-to: pking123@sympatico.ca >Priority: normal >X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.11) > >51.93237% - Super Music Nerd >Higher than I thought, perhaps owing to my past as college DJ. I lost big on >clothing (I'm a conventional dresser, and even in my unconventional teenage >days, I didn't dress to conform to any rock star). > >Paul > >Date sent: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 00:28:35 -0600 (GMT-06:00) >From: Miles Goosens >Send reply to: Miles Goosens >To: loud-fans@smoe.org >Subject: [loud-fans] music nerd and "score" in same sentence > >> 50.24something, "Super Music Nerd." Higher than I thought, perhaps driven by >> the size of my collection, the fact that said collection is organized and >> stored, and that I have a functioning 8-track player. >> >> Suspicious of anything at a URL called "couplandesque." Suspect that it's >just >> Mark Staples pretending to be a hot young girl. >> >> Watched the last two episodes of the second season of THE OFFICE tonight (had >> 'em on tape since they aired on BBC America, just hadn't gotten around to >them). >> Identified way too much with Tim for comfort. >> >> Leaving out "I" and sometimes verbs at beginning of sentences. Must stop >doing >> that. >> >> later, >> >> Miles > >========================================================= >Paul King http://www3.sympatico.ca/pking123/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:16:19 -0700 From: "rwinston@tde.com" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] 2003 poll open! Aaron Mandel on 12/22/2003 11:34:03 AM wrote: > The ballot form is at > > http://www.eecs.harvard.edu/~aaron/poll/lf03 > Aaron, instead of write-in text areas, could you please do drop-down combo boxes listing all 35,000 releases from the previous year and allow us to pick from them? I have trouble remembering what all came out. Thanks. Latre. --Rog ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:47:47 -0500 (EST) From: dmw Subject: Re: [loud-fans] 2003 poll open! Okay, more or less more seriously, is there a publicly-accessible source for this info? Or does someone want to buy me a soundscan subscription for the holiday season? On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, rwinston@tde.com wrote: > Aaron Mandel on 12/22/2003 11:34:03 AM wrote: > > The ballot form is at > > > > http://www.eecs.harvard.edu/~aaron/poll/lf03 > > > > Aaron, instead of write-in text areas, could you please do drop-down combo boxes listing all 35,000 releases from the previous year and allow us to pick from them? I have trouble remembering what all came out. Thanks. > > Latre. --Rog ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:08:45 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: [loud-fans] 2003 poll open! At 03:47 PM 12/22/2003 -0500, dmw wrote: >Okay, more or less more seriously, is there a publicly-accessible source >for this info? Or does someone want to buy me a soundscan subscription for >the holiday season? A couple o'folks on the Audities list have just such a project going: http://www.z3d.net/music/index.asp You can even submit omitted titles directly by clicking "Add CD" (top center of the page). later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:17:30 -0800 (PST) From: me@justanotherfuckin.com Subject: [loud-fans] central CA folks? you guys doing okay down there in SLO? 3.1 EQ NEAR LAKE NACIMIENTO, CA 12:50:53 PM PST Monday, Dec 22, 2003 3.5 EQ NEAR SAN SIMEON, CA 12:44:18 PM PST Monday, Dec 22, 2003 4.3 EQ NEAR LAKE NACIMIENTO, CA 12:41:10 PM PST Monday, Dec 22, 2003 3.1 EQ NEAR CAMBRIA, CA 12:22:15 PM PST Monday, Dec 22, 2003 3.2 EQ NEAR LAKE NACIMIENTO, CA 12:08:32 PM PST Monday, Dec 22, 2003 4.1 EQ NEAR SAN SIMEON, CA 12:06:15 PM PST Monday, Dec 22, 2003 3.3 EQ NEAR SAN SIMEON, CA 12:05:35 PM PST Monday, Dec 22, 2003 3.7 EQ NEAR SAN SIMEON, CA 12:05:19 PM PST Monday, Dec 22, 2003 3.3 EQ NEAR SAN SIMEON, CA 11:58:10 AM PST Monday, Dec 22, 2003 3.3 EQ NEAR CAMBRIA, CA 11:56:46 AM PST Monday, Dec 22, 2003 3.9 EQ NEAR SAN SIMEON, CA 11:52:40 AM PST Monday, Dec 22, 2003 3.3 EQ NEAR SAN SIMEON, CA 11:51:25 AM PST Monday, Dec 22, 2003 3.2 EQ NEAR LAKE NACIMIENTO, CA 11:49:24 AM PST Monday, Dec 22, 2003 3.4 EQ NEAR TEMPLETON, CA 11:46:39 AM PST Monday, Dec 22, 2003 3.6 EQ NEAR CAMBRIA, CA 11:45:38 AM PST Monday, Dec 22, 2003 3.2 EQ NEAR SAN SIMEON, CA 11:43:51 AM PST Monday, Dec 22, 2003 3.4 EQ NEAR SAN SIMEON, CA 11:42:34 AM PST Monday, Dec 22, 2003 3.4 EQ NEAR CAYUCOS, CA 11:41:05 AM PST Monday, Dec 22, 2003 3.6 EQ NEAR CAMBRIA, CA 11:37:44 AM PST Monday, Dec 22, 2003 3.3 EQ NEAR CAYUCOS, CA 11:35:29 AM PST Monday, Dec 22, 2003 4.0 EQ NEAR CAYUCOS, CA 11:31:05 AM PST Monday, Dec 22, 2003 3.9 EQ NEAR TEMPLETON, CA 11:29:40 AM PST Monday, Dec 22, 2003 6.4 EQ NEAR SAN SIMEON, CA 11:15:56 AM PST Monday, Dec 22, 2003 brianna - -- What's the point of wearing your favorite rocketship underpants if nobody ever asks to see 'em? - Calvin - -- recent adventures in tech support at http://www.pirate.org/people/hello/cat_techterror.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 17:13:44 EST From: LeftyZ@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] central CA folks? In a message dated 12/22/03 1:23:50 PM, me@justanotherfuckin.com writes: << you guys doing okay down there in SLO? >> I'm in the San Fernando Valley, the northern part of LA....about three hours from the epicenter. I felt it GOOD......felt like I was floating in my chair...it was a roller here, but I could tell it was a big one....somewhere....lasted a long time...fifteen seconds or so....very spooky..... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 17:15:21 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: [loud-fans] mix tape help I'm putting together my personal end-of-year mix CD and have found, disturbingly, that my copy of Electric Version is gone. If a fellow New Pornographers fan would like to do me a *huge* favor by briefly putting an uncompressed .wav (or .shn, just not something lossy) of "Ballad Of A Comeback Kid" somewhere that I can download it, I would be very grateful. I will swear to you on my mother's gravy (it's very tasty) that I have already bought the disc new and may well buy a second copy if mine doesn't turn up. I just want to make this mix before I jump on a plane to Madison, and I have no idea whether the lost CD will turn up if I spend my time searching instead of sequencing. a ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 17:18:47 -0500 From: "John Swartzentruber" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] mix tape help On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 17:15:21 -0500 (EST), Aaron Mandel wrote: >I'm putting together my personal end-of-year mix CD and have found, >disturbingly, that my copy of Electric Version is gone. If a fellow New >Pornographers fan would like to do me a *huge* favor by briefly putting an >uncompressed .wav (or .shn, just not something lossy) of "Ballad Of A >Comeback Kid" somewhere that I can download it, I would be very grateful. I can put up an APE file on my server if no one else has offered. Warning: my upstream rate is only 128kbps. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:28:22 -0800 (PST) From: Gil Ray Subject: Re: [loud-fans] central CA folks? Felt it up here in the Bay area, too. We're all (at work - Marin Co.)entering inventory data, and almost all of us felt vertigo, assuming it was from the data entry work we were doing. We evacuated the building and I noticed I decided to stop and stand under our building's overhang. Duh. Nothing fell. Just my IQ. Gil - --- LeftyZ@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 12/22/03 1:23:50 PM, > me@justanotherfuckin.com writes: > > << you guys doing okay down there in SLO? >> > > I'm in the San Fernando Valley, the northern part of > LA....about three hours > from the epicenter. > > I felt it GOOD......felt like I was floating in my > chair...it was a roller > here, but I could tell it was a big > one....somewhere....lasted a long > time...fifteen seconds or so....very spooky..... __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:34:58 -0800 From: Michael Mitton Subject: Re: [loud-fans] central CA folks? > I felt it GOOD......felt like I was floating in my chair...it was a roller From my fifth floor apartment in Berkeley, I felt it as well. Anything that could swing was swinging; my cat drew blood as she jumped off of me; and I felt a bit sick for a half hour or so. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:44:50 -0800 (PST) From: "Joseph M. Mallon" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] central CA folks? On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Michael Mitton wrote: > > I felt it GOOD......felt like I was floating in my chair...it was a roller > > From my fifth floor apartment in Berkeley, I felt it as well. Anything > that could swing was swinging; my cat drew blood as she jumped off of > me; and I felt a bit sick for a half hour or so. I felt it here at work in Alameda, like a slight wobble. I was at first concerned I was having some kind of episode, but as it continued, then stopped, I figured it was the earth that had the problem, not me. At home, well, let's say that not all animals are hyperaware of earthquakes...especially cute little dogs. Joe Mallon jmmallon@joescafe.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:54:44 EST From: LeftyZ@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] central CA folks? In a message dated 12/22/03 3:48:44 PM, jmmallon@joescafe.com writes: << At home, well, let's say that not all animals are hyperaware of earthquakes...especially cute little dogs. >> hey.....good point....hmmmmm......I have four big hunting-type dogs.......not a peep. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:03:23 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: [loud-fans] Re: mix tape help I got my file -- many thanks to John Swartzentruber! I've also already got three votes in the year-end poll, which is a rollicking start. There are two breakaway leaders in the ratings so far, both surprises to me. But, uh, that's only after three votes. a ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 16:23:33 -0800 From: Elizabeth Brion Subject: Re: [loud-fans] central CA folks? On Monday, December 22, 2003, at 01:17 PM, me@justanotherfuckin.com wrote: > you guys doing okay down there in SLO? We're good! The rest of the town is on a scale between freaked out to completely nonfunctional, but my mother-in-law and I managed to be in the car at the time and not feel a thing. Our stuff's OK too, although our Medusa lamp took an alarming dive. And our townhouse is in one of the small areas that didn't lose power. Our biggest concern is Randy's office building, which is in an old brick building that doesn't look so hot, but in the meanwhile it's an excuse to keep him home. :-) E ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:58:21 -0600 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] 2003 poll open! On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:47:47 -0500 (EST), "dmw" said: > Okay, more or less more seriously, is there a publicly-accessible source > for this info? > > Aaron, instead of write-in text areas, could you please do drop-down combo boxes listing all 35,000 releases from the previous year and allow us to pick from them? I have trouble remembering what all came out. Thanks. Even if there is - such as a catalog of every release given a UPC - that would exclude the thousands of releases lacking UPCs. (I think a couple of years ago, some music magazine claimed there were 50k releases - there are probably more now.) - ------------------------------- ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: "In two thousand years, they'll still be looking for Elvis - :: this is nothing new," said the priest. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 21:00:03 -0500 (EST) From: dmw Subject: Re: [loud-fans] 2003 poll open! On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Fortissimo wrote: > On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:47:47 -0500 (EST), "dmw" said: > > Okay, more or less more seriously, is there a publicly-accessible source > > for this info? > > > > Aaron, instead of write-in text areas, could you please do drop-down combo boxes listing all 35,000 releases from the previous year and allow us to pick from them? I have trouble remembering what all came out. Thanks. > > Even if there is - such as a catalog of every release given a UPC - that > would exclude the thousands of releases lacking UPCs. > > (I think a couple of years ago, some music magazine claimed there were > 50k releases - there are probably more now.) my guess is that the number of releases not tracked by soundscan is probably at least three times the number that is. that's ok -- i would much rather really look at the list of tracked releases with at least some level of national distro. i really wouldn't want to see a list that included things like my band's demo, because it would take way too long to read. on the other hand, while i appreciate Miles' pointer, that audities list is way too skewed to be useful to me. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:50:44 -0800 (PST) From: zoom@muppetlabs.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] 2003 poll open! > Okay, more or less more seriously, is there a publicly-accessible source > for this info? Or does someone want to buy me a soundscan subscription for > the holiday season? >> Aaron, instead of write-in text areas, could you please do drop-down >> combo boxes listing all 35,000 releases from the previous year and allow >> us to pick from them? I have trouble remembering what all came out. >> Thanks. Think I figured it out guys: http://icemagazine.com/dates/release201.asp and use the archives at the bottom of the page. Send my Nobel Prize Parcel Post, please. Memo to Aaron: No need for apologies or sweat--Dana's loooooong gone. I still don't know what "lossy" means, though. Speaking of music I could use: couple evenings ago I'm taking a car trip with a friend, some Frippertronics come on, I don't recognize the piece though I'm thinking hey, I haven't heard LET THE POWER FALL in a long time. Turns out it's, yep, you guessed it, Fripp's "Silent Night," only ever available on some comes-with-a-magazine flexi. But My Sweet Lord, did it shimmer. Anyone's got a digital enshrinement of that, I'm ears hanging open like the proverbial Chevy doors. Looks like you can catch the whole program, if you like, over at kexp.org--click "archived audio." I just wish the smart computers available to me had speakers. It's the program for Saturday, December 20th, 9-11 pm. That darn DJ even had the Dumbells, if you know what I mean (and I think some of you do), Andy I wonder if Exile in Guyville fans would have gotten the point of Liz Phair's "conformist mainstream move" if she'd riffed off another Stones record and called it Some Boys? "Why Can't I?" compares to "Complicated" the way "Miss You" does to "Stayin' Alive"not quite as good, but sinking its hooks in a chewier cultural context and serving as a gateway to an album vibrant enough to make any stick-in-the-muds who decry the new "artificial" sound seem like a bunch of hippies. But even folks who choose not to enjoy Liz Phair (there's still no accounting for taste, no matter how desperately the bookkeepers at Universal try to prove otherwise) must realize how few options remain for a female musician with a hankering for "cultural relevance." Unlike those celebrated skinny boys with skinnier ties, indie-gal singer-songwriters generally find that when they "go for what they know" they're more likely to wind up in cutout bins than on magazine covers. Ask Amy Rigby, who wrote more great songs for her fourth solid record in a row than Ryan Adams ever has. Not a good year to be a woman in the public sphere in general, huh? From Britney to Natalie, famous females faced a misogynist lashing that was consistently coded as something else. I don't hate women, the line goes, just the ones that are stupid or unpatriotic or rich or sexy. I'd be more comfortable with the fact that most of my favorite hip-hop singles consist of powerful men yelling instructions at women if one of the ladies could just occasionally holler back some demands of her own. The saddest album art of the year is the CD insert for the new Kelis record, where the onetime avatar of R & B quirk is stripped down to a lame sash and PhotoShopped to look like an alien goddess from a Frank Frazetta painting. - --Keith Harris, from day two of a "round-table" discussion of Pop Music 2003, http://slate.msn.com/id/2092531/entry/2092568/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 22:28:56 -0500 From: Michael Zwirn Subject: Fwd: [loud-fans] Elliott Smith Tribute show at TT's > On Sunday, December 21, 2003, at 05:57 PM, Jenny Grover wrote: > >> From the Boston Globe >> >> A public tribute >> Elliott Smith fans and local musicians take the stage to honor the >> late >> seminal songwriter >> >> ... Mary Lou Lord had something different in mind when she began >> organizing a show to honor the late Elliott Smith, her good friend >> and an eloquent indie-pop songwriter who took his own life in October >> at the age of 34. "I had so many feelings that I needed to put >> somewhere, in a positive direction, instead of just being >> miserable," says Lord, who toured with Smith as her opening act in >> the mid-'90s. "I thought there were probably a lot of people who felt >> the same way, who needed closure, because his music meant so much to >> so many people. I didn't want it to be a big-name show. I really >> wanted it to be for the fans." >> >> > This was pretty cool. My fiancie and I weren't able to stay for the > whole thing, just the film clips and about four of the performers, but > it seemed like a really nice event. I spoke to Mary Lou for a while > and caught up, too. > > Will have more time to write about it later. > > Michael ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V3 #371 *******************************