From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V3 #356 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Monday, December 8 2003 Volume 03 : Number 356 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [loud-fans] More overdue swaps [John ] Re: [loud-fans] list prep ["jer fairall" ] Re: [loud-fans] list prep [Aaron Mandel ] Re: [loud-fans] list prep [Miles Goosens ] Re: [loud-fans] overdue mix review (which weighs more?) [Steve Holtebeck ] Re: [loud-fans] list prep [Dave Walker ] Re: [loud-fans] overdue mix review (which weighs more?) ["Fortissimo" ] [loud-fans] chat, anyone? ["jer fairall" ] Re: [loud-fans] chat, anyone? [glenn mcdonald ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 15:14:05 GMT From: John Subject: [loud-fans] More overdue swaps Here's the track listing from the 2 discs that Stewart sent me back in September, that I shamefully neglected to tell him had reached these shores. Disc 1 - "Something Else Instead" 1. Only The Lonely - Ad Frank 2. 1000 Miles Per Hour - Ok Go 3. Illiterature - Adam Schmitt 4. Disappear - Cockeyed Ghost 5. She's Gone - The Lucky Bishops 6. Something Else Instead - The Creams 7. Robert Lloyd - The Creams 8. Mornings White Vibration - The High Dials 9. Take Your Time - John Cunningham 10. Curse Of The Frontierland - Game Theory 11. A Bitter Feud - Menthol 12. My Pink Half Of The Drainpipe -The Bonzo Dog Band 13. Long Days - The Marbles 14. I'll Be That Girl - Barenaked Ladies 15. Lets Think Of Something - Larrys' Rebels 16. Tell Me - The Mysteries Of Life 17. Stop - Astrid 18. Brotherhood - Matthew Sweet 19. Proud Land - The Cavedogs 20. The Great British Mistake - The Adverts 21. Second Look - Kevin Tihista 22. Raison D'etre - The Buzzcocks Are the Lucky Bishops and Astrid tracks typical ? If so, I'll have to look out for more. I was half tempted by the Astrid LP when it came out, but didn't buy in the end. Disc 2 - "Play My Song" 1. Steady With You - The Pearlfishers 2. Invisible Ink - Sweet William 3. Queen Of Those Things - Preoccupied Pipers 4. Tuesday - Steve Wynn 5. Perfect Place - Voice Of The Beehive 6. Low - St. Christopher 7. William Wilson - The Smithereens 8. Lemon Rind - Salem 66 9. Radio Darlings - The Telepathic Butterflies 10. La Grand Illusion - Television Personalities 11. Evil Black Magic - Zumpano 12. Innocent - Pineforest Crunch 13. Seasons In The Sun - Too Much Joy 14. Sugartune - Sloan 15. Get The Message - The Shoes 16. Somehow - The Vapors 17. The Ballad Of Paul K - Permanent Green Light 18. Pressing Lips - The Pursuit Of Happiness 19. Terribly Honest - R. Stevie Moore 20. First Day On A New Planet - Yarsura 21. Anykind - Ray Wonder 22. Play My Song - Redd Kross Please tell me more about The Telepathic Butterflies and Permanent Green Light. Also, where's the Sloan track from ? Cheers for a couple of good discs, Stewart. John B ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 11:50:43 -0500 From: "jer fairall" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] list prep One that I haven't seen mentioned here yet and which might have some Loud Fan appeal, at least to all of us who had Interpol on their Top Ten lists last year, is The Stills' LOGIC WILL BREAK YOUR HEART. Maybe a little more radio-friednly than Interpol, but I can certainly see it appealing to the same people who miss when everything on the radio and MTV used to sound like Echo & The Bunnymen. And while I'll agree that the new Wheat is nice, so far it just isn't grabbing me like HOPE & ADAMS did. Ditto TEAM BOO, the new Mates of State album (I like OUR CONSTANT CONCERN better), but it does have at least one song that is guaranteed to make my Top Ten Songs of 2003 list. Hope this helps, Jer Help the planet each day! It's free and easy: http://www.Care2.com/dailyaction/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 13:12:32 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: [loud-fans] list prep On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, glenn mcdonald wrote: > So: anybody have any late arrivals they want to stump for? Looking at my '2003' shelf the pickings are really thin from the last month or two. Parts of the Basement Jaxx album really grew on me. I'm still not thrilled with their decision to go so heavily into using guest vocalists, but the songs I think I like best have some of the singers I expected to like least (JC Chasez, Me'shell Ndegeocello) so whatever. The new Belle & Sebastian is the first record of theirs I've liked without also wincing at since I heard Tigermilk. Trying to figure out why is probably a mug's game -- my relationship to their music is so heavily colored by what everyone else thinks of them, their name-dropping, etc. -- but I like Horn's production a lot and found three of the melodies instantly indelible. Finally, I'm not positive what the official "release date" was, but the Outside The Inbox mp3 compilation at bradsucks.net introduced me to both Add and Brad Sucks in a very enjoyable way a few weeks ago. The compilation consists of free songs by internet artists written using spam subject-lines as titles. Sound like a recipe for disaster? The musicians whose songs are actually *about* spam tend to suck, but most of them are about something else. Like I said, the Add and Brad Sucks songs are the best; both have several other downloadable songs on their sites with the newer stuff tending to be better. a ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 13:50:24 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: [loud-fans] list prep At 11:50 AM 12/7/2003 -0500, jer fairall wrote: >Maybe a little more radio-friednly than Interpol, but I can >certainly see it appealing to the same people who miss when >everything on the radio and MTV used to sound like Echo & The >Bunnymen. Unless you can amend that to "college radio and 120 MINUTES," that's an '80s that never existed. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 12:44:56 -0800 From: Steve Holtebeck Subject: Re: [loud-fans] overdue mix review (which weighs more?) Miles Goosens wrote: > Note to self for future Steve H. swap discs: > > * no dance music - see > > * no 17-minute long solo-fests > > Steve, really and truly, I didn't aim to bug you by putting "Cocaine > Sex" on that tape. Hopefully putting Shannon's "Let the Music Play" on > the 1983 disc of WHICH WEIGHS MORE? wasn't a repeat of that experience, > plus I thought for historical purposes, there wasn't a more important > single in '83, bridging hip-hop, electric funk, and traditional R&B. > However, it's always nice to be a superlative. No.. "Let The Music Play" is great! I both dance music, and long solo-fests in moderation. I saw Steve Wynn's band on Friday night, and he played eight songs in 90 minutes, including a 15+ minute version of "John Coltrane Stereo Blues", and I loved every minute of it. For an encore they covered "Hey Ya!" which was like a nice slice of apple pie after a seven-course meal! Since Miles reviewed my swap discs, I should review his.. Earlier this year, he sent me a two-disc compilation called WHICH WEIGHS MORE?, with one disc of songs from 1983 and one disc from 2002. Here are the tracks.. 1983 2002 Yaz-Nobody's Diary Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers-Joe Rolling Stones-Undercover of the Night Wilco-Radio Cure Green on Red-Gravity Talks Superdrag-The Staggering Genius Graham Parker-Life Gets Better Fluid Oz-She Blinded Me Midnight Oil-Power And The Passion Leslie Woods-Crush Me Richard Thompson-Two Left Feet Spoon-The Way We Get By The Ramones-Outsider Josh Rouse-Pleasure X-New World Raveonettes-Ghost Riders Smithereens-Beauty&Sadness Joe Lynn White-An Exception P'o-Crystal Streams Sigur Ros-Untitled #4 The Bongos-Numbers With Wings Pere Ubu-Phone Home Jonah Cocteau Twins-Sugar Hiccup Kylie Minogue-Can't Get Blue U2-Two Hearts Beat as One Monday Of My Head Red Guitars-Good Technology The Shazam-Gettin' Higher Pete Shelley-Telephone Operator Robert Plant-Song To The Siren Replacements-Within Your Reach Tommy Womack-Tough The Fixx-Saved By Zero Mountain Goats-The Mess Inside Neil Young-Wonderin' Wire-Spent Jason& the Scorchers-Hot Nights Linda Thompson-Dear Old Man Men At Work-Overkill Colin Hay-Overkill The 1983 volume was almost entirely "by request", because I sent Miles a list of songs from that year that I needed for my 20th H.S. reunion earlier this year (including about 2/3rds of these tunes). >From the ones I didn't request, I'm already familiar with the Stones, Ramones, Replacements, and Neil Young songs, inspired choices all, enjoyed the Cocteau Twins, Yaz(oo) and Shannon tracks (I like SOME dance music!), and don't find myself skipping anything except the P'O song (Wire spinoff, right? I'd probably like it more if it weren't harshing my Jersey-pop buzz between the Smithereens and the Bongos) and "Saved By Zero" (don't like that song.. my favorite one-word Fixx review: "Suxx!"). The 2002 disc doesn't weigh as much as the 1983 disc, but I enjoyed it too. My favorites were Kylie's "Can't Get Blue Monday Out Of My Head" (her big hit mashed with New Order's "Blue Monday" which came out in .. wait for it.. 1983) and Fluid Ounces' cover of "She Blinded Me With Science" (which may have also been a request if I remember.. and guess what year that come out?). Also liked Robert Plant's version of "Song To the Siren" and the short pop blasts by the various S bands (Superdrag, Spoon, Shazam). For future swap reference, I do like other things besides power-pop, but thumbs down in Sigur Ros (that song is too long!) Notice that both discs end with versions of "Overkill", the 1983 disc with the original Men At Work version, and the 2002 disc with a more recent solo version by Colin Hay. Also, I got an earlier loud-swap disc from George M. with the same Linda Thompson and Mountain Goats tracks, so those must be the right ones to include. And that Linda Thompson album from last year is really good -- even Nick Hornby thinks so! - -Steve ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 18:45:07 -0500 From: Dave Walker Subject: Re: [loud-fans] list prep I haven't seen any on-list mentions of the British Sea Power record (was 2003 the year everyone's Echo & the Bunnymen's influence started showing or what?), and the new Missy Elliot is rather nice, too. -d.w. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 19:00:40 -0600 From: "Fortissimo" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] overdue mix review (which weighs more?) On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 12:44:56 -0800, "Steve Holtebeck" said: > Notice that both discs end with versions of "Overkill", the 1983 disc > with the original Men At Work version, and the 2002 disc with a more > recent solo version by Colin Hay. He must really like that song - he sings on a cover of it by Lazlo Bane that's an unlisted bonus track on their pretty-good _11 Transistor_ record ("Buttercup" was a minor MTV hit in 1997). ...Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com/ :: Some days, you just can't get rid of a bomb :: --Batman ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 17:07:45 -0800 From: "Micah Bedwell" Subject: RE: [loud-fans] More overdue swaps Hell, I just liked reading the titles. I downloaded the Malkmus tune from Insound.com. That punk. Any song that begins with "Crimson alligator" is a winner in my book. Micah Bedwell System Administrator DonSueMor, Inc. micah@donsuemor.com - -----Original Message----- From: John [mailto:johnhwb@hotpop.com] Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 7:14 AM To: loud-fans Subject: [loud-fans] More overdue swaps Here's the track listing from the 2 discs that Stewart sent me back in September, that I shamefully neglected to tell him had reached these shores. Disc 1 - "Something Else Instead" 1. Only The Lonely - Ad Frank 2. 1000 Miles Per Hour - Ok Go 3. Illiterature - Adam Schmitt 4. Disappear - Cockeyed Ghost 5. She's Gone - The Lucky Bishops 6. Something Else Instead - The Creams 7. Robert Lloyd - The Creams 8. Mornings White Vibration - The High Dials 9. Take Your Time - John Cunningham 10. Curse Of The Frontierland - Game Theory 11. A Bitter Feud - Menthol 12. My Pink Half Of The Drainpipe -The Bonzo Dog Band 13. Long Days - The Marbles 14. I'll Be That Girl - Barenaked Ladies 15. Lets Think Of Something - Larrys' Rebels 16. Tell Me - The Mysteries Of Life 17. Stop - Astrid 18. Brotherhood - Matthew Sweet 19. Proud Land - The Cavedogs 20. The Great British Mistake - The Adverts 21. Second Look - Kevin Tihista 22. Raison D'etre - The Buzzcocks Are the Lucky Bishops and Astrid tracks typical ? If so, I'll have to look out for more. I was half tempted by the Astrid LP when it came out, but didn't buy in the end. Disc 2 - "Play My Song" 1. Steady With You - The Pearlfishers 2. Invisible Ink - Sweet William 3. Queen Of Those Things - Preoccupied Pipers 4. Tuesday - Steve Wynn 5. Perfect Place - Voice Of The Beehive 6. Low - St. Christopher 7. William Wilson - The Smithereens 8. Lemon Rind - Salem 66 9. Radio Darlings - The Telepathic Butterflies 10. La Grand Illusion - Television Personalities 11. Evil Black Magic - Zumpano 12. Innocent - Pineforest Crunch 13. Seasons In The Sun - Too Much Joy 14. Sugartune - Sloan 15. Get The Message - The Shoes 16. Somehow - The Vapors 17. The Ballad Of Paul K - Permanent Green Light 18. Pressing Lips - The Pursuit Of Happiness 19. Terribly Honest - R. Stevie Moore 20. First Day On A New Planet - Yarsura 21. Anykind - Ray Wonder 22. Play My Song - Redd Kross Please tell me more about The Telepathic Butterflies and Permanent Green Light. Also, where's the Sloan track from ? Cheers for a couple of good discs, Stewart. John B ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 22:41:19 -0500 From: "jer fairall" Subject: [loud-fans] chat, anyone? I'll hanging out in the ircnet #loudfans room as I work on the mix that I'm about a month late in submitting for the latest Loudswap. Feel free to drop in and chat/distract me/help influence the track listing. Jer Help the planet each day! It's free and easy: http://www.Care2.com/dailyaction/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 23:38:52 -0500 From: glenn mcdonald Subject: Re: [loud-fans] chat, anyone? IRCnet is rejecting my advances, but irc.eskimo.com seems amenable if anybody else can get to that. ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V3 #356 *******************************