From: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org (loud-fans-digest) To: loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Subject: loud-fans-digest V3 #353 Reply-To: loud-fans@smoe.org Sender: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-loud-fans-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk loud-fans-digest Friday, December 5 2003 Volume 03 : Number 353 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [loud-fans] overdue mix review #2 [Jenny Grover ] Re: [loud-fans] overdue mix review #2 [LeftyZ@aol.com] Re: [loud-fans] overdue mix review #2 [Miles Goosens ] RE: [loud-fans] Land Ho! ["Micah Bedwell" ] [loud-fans] carbon-dated swap review #1: Steve Holtebeck's swap discs (pt. 1 of 2) [Miles Goosens ] Re: [loud-fans] Swaps [Phil Fleming ] [loud-fans] carbon-dated swap review #1: Steve Holtebeck's swap discs (pt. 2 of 2) [Miles Goosens ] Re: [loud-fans] list prep [Jenny Grover ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 03:07:23 -0500 From: Jenny Grover Subject: [loud-fans] overdue mix review #2 Back in the summer, Steve Holtbeck sent me a mix called "With a Dream in Your Heart You're Never Alone." This dreamy mix is right up my alley and in my garage (or it would be if I actually had a garage). 1- Journey to the Center of the Mind- The Amboy Dukes The Nuge! Best song he was ever involved in that I ever heard. 2- Girl of My Dreams- Bram Tchaikovsky I'd forgotten all about this song. Rips off about a dozen bands, I still think the lyrics are horribly stupid, and I still don't like the guitar solo, but it has a nice hook or two. 3- Dreams Are Free- The Chills Very organ-ic. Spritely. 4- Dreaming- Yo La Tengo Blondie cover. Perky, noisy, but vocals aren't very good. He misses a lot of notes. 5- Psychotic Reaction- Count Five Still a mind-bendy classic. 6- I Had Too Much To Dream- Electric Prunes And another. 7- Golden Clouds- Flamin' Groovies Bit of a rockabilly flavor to this one, but still very garage. 8- He'd Be a Diamond- The Bevis Frond Throw in a Rick and this could be a Roger McGuinn song. 9- Jennifer- Green Pajamas This could almost be a 60's song, too. Nice. 10- Sleeping With Your Devil Mask- Robyn Hitchcock and the Egyptians I think I put this on someone's Halloween mix once. 11- Monday- The Jam One of my fave Jam songs. Makes me go all nostalgic and stuff. 12- Tuesday Moon- Neutral Milk Hotel Interesting. I need to check out this band some more. 13- She Lives in a Time of Her Own- 13th Floor Elevators Still very cool. 14- Misty Lane- Chocolate Watchband I like the chorus melody a lot, but the verse melody is kinda weak. 15- Bedazzled- Peter Cook and Dudley Moore Quite strange, and funny. 16- Walking Through My Dreams- Pretty Things A band I had forgotten about. So long since I heard them I don't know if this is typical or not, but it's nice. 17- I Don't Sleep, I Dream (Sat. Night Live 11/12/94)- REM Edgier and grittier than the album version. Nice. 18- Behind the Wall of Sleep- Smithereens Smithereens became kind of a dead horse flogger of a band, but a few of their tracks rise above the rest. This is one of them. 19- Lone Summer Dream- The Soundtrack of Our Lives I like this, especially the verse melody. Tell me more. 20- Psycho- The Sonics The wilder side of 60's Seattle. 21- My White Bicycle- Tomorrow Another fine trippy Nugget. 22- Daydream Believer (live from SF, CA 05/01/94) Not nearly trashy enough. Who does backing vocals? 23- Sweetness Dream of Me- Anton Barbeau By far the best of the admittedly few Anton songs I've heard yet, and enough to make me consider buying this album. 24- (bonus track) Do You Know the Way to San Jose- Dionne Warwick When I was a very little girl, I loved this song. I still like it. Jen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 03:16:37 -0500 From: Jenny Grover Subject: Re: [loud-fans] overdue mix review #1 michael@zwirn.com wrote: >On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 02:07:52 -0500, Jenny Grover wrote: > > >>6- Work It Out With a Foxy Lady >>Okay, who is this by? A little disconcerting at first, but it works >>alright. >> >> > >Ha! Freelance Hellraiser or Go Home Productions? I can't remember... this is a mashup of >Hendrix and Beyonci, and it's pretty good. > Okay, that's really hilarious! Jen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 09:35:02 -0800 From: Steve Holtebeck Subject: Re: [loud-fans] overdue mix review #2 Jenny Grover wrote: > > Back in the summer, Steve Holtbeck sent me a mix called "With a Dream in > Your Heart You're Never Alone." This dreamy mix is right up my alley > and in my garage (or it would be if I actually had a garage). > 2- Girl of My Dreams- Bram Tchaikovsky > I'd forgotten all about this song. Rips off about a dozen bands, I > still think the lyrics are horribly stupid, and I still don't like the > guitar solo, but it has a nice hook or two. Bram's debut album STRANGE MAN, CHANGED MAN is still not on CD. Why not? > 7- Golden Clouds- Flamin' Groovies > Bit of a rockabilly flavor to this one, but still very garage. >From the SNEAKERS ep, probably the first self-released DIY rock & roll album (did any bands put out their own record before 1968?). I think it may have actually been recorded in a garage. > 8- He'd Be a Diamond- The Bevis Frond > Throw in a Rick and this could be a Roger McGuinn song. This album (NEW RIVER HEAD) was just reissued. This is my favorite Frond song, and it's been covered by Teenage Fanclub and Mary Lou Lord. The album itself is dragged down by too many 17-minute long solo-fests (it only has one, but that's still too many), and people who can write songs like "He'd Be A Diamond" shouldn't have to pad their albums with stuff like that. And that goes for Arthur Lee too. The only time I saw the Bevis Frond live (at Terrastock II in SF) they covered "Signed DC". > 9- Jennifer- Green Pajamas > This could almost be a 60's song, too. Nice. This was the other side of their debut single (and best-known song) "Kim The Waitress". It's on the singles compilation. > 12- Tuesday Moon- Neutral Milk Hotel > Interesting. I need to check out this band some more. This was a "bonus track" on the 2001 reissue of their debut ep EVERYTHING IS.. IN THE AEROPLANE OVER THE SEA is the best album of the last ten years (according to Magnet), so that's the NMH masterpiece. > 16- Walking Through My Dreams- Pretty Things > A band I had forgotten about. So long since I heard them I don't know > if this is typical or not, but it's nice. This is typical of their "psychedelic" period. It was a single that came out between SF SORROW and PARACHUTE, so it's on one reissue or the other. > 19- Lone Summer Dream- The Soundtrack of Our Lives > I like this, especially the verse melody. Tell me more. It's a new-ish song that wasn't on their last album. It's on a Parasol label compilation from last year. If you're asking about the band, they're from Sweden and they're really good (www.tsool.com) > 22- Daydream Believer (live from SF, CA 05/01/94) > Not nearly trashy enough. Who does backing vocals? I don't remember (this is by Paul Westerberg). The Barenaked Ladies opened for him at this show, so he could have dragged a couple of those dudes on stage to sing it with him. I don't remember. > 23- Sweetness Dream of Me- Anton Barbeau > By far the best of the admittedly few Anton songs I've heard yet, and > enough to make me consider buying this album. If you're going to buy just one, this one (SPLENDID TRAY) is the one to by. And in 20 years, when people ask me which one of these 62 Anton Barbeau albums they should buy first, my answer will still be A SPLENDID TRAY. KING OF MISSOURI, his album with the Bevis Frond, rocks though! - -Steve ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:50:06 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: [loud-fans] Hint: It's not "Funk" Scott hisself: > "But now that I think of it, we [Game Theory] never did break up. > Technically, Michael Quercio, Joe Becker, and I are still Game Theory. > Maybe we should do a record." This reminds me... my once-and-future drummer worked with Quercio and has some interesting stories, but I can't figure out when or how. I'm renewing my partnership with this guy next week so I'll ask then, but it seems to me maybe it was in a latter day incarnation of the Salvation Army. His name is Derek Hanna and he did at least one gig in a dress. Bells, anyone? Jen: >>20- Bill Murray- Lounge Act >>Not a Nirvana cover, but that silly, loungy Star Wars tribute. Hmmm. Odd. I was driving in my tuneless Corolla last night (haven't had a functional radio for a year or so and have neither the time nor scheduling moxie to do anything about it, so I consider it my penance for driving a car all over the place to begin with) on my way to see David Byrne at my wife's work, and the song stuck in my mind was, no, not "Making Flippy Floppy" or some such, but Murray himself crooning "if they should barrrrrr wars... please let these Starrrrr Wars.... stay!". I'm aware that he does karaoke in "Lost in Translation" but have neither seen it nor heard his version of "More Than This", so I dunno where this earworm came from. Speaking of cheesy versions of the theme to Star Wars, may I just mention that another of my bandmates, who has never met Michael Quercio, does possess what I believe to be the single most complete collection of Meco recordings ever amassed by humans? The highlight: the LP "Close Encounters and Other Galactic Funk". Side one: Close Encounters Theme Disco Version and some spare mixes. Side two: three original tracks, entitled "Other", "Galactic", and "Funk", only one of which can be said to have an appropriate title. - -Rex np: Meco, "Christmas in the Stars: The Star Wars Christmas Album" featuring Anthony Daniels and Jon Bon Jovi. Okay, I'm not np'ing it, but I do have it on both vinyl and CD and all of the above is true. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:04:51 -0800 (PST) From: "Joseph M. Mallon" Subject: [loud-fans] Swaps On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Jenny Grover wrote: > 19- Pam Lucia- Walking on the Moon > Not a Police cover. Jazzy Western style nonsensical song about meeting > farm animals on the moon. This is probably Lucia Pamela, celebrated on Stereolab's "International Coloring Contest". More info: http://www.pandemic.com/lucia/ > 19- Lone Summer Dream- The Soundtrack of Our Lives > I like this, especially the verse melody. Tell me more. Fantastic Swedish band whose 2nd album BEHIND THE MUSIC is like a lost 1972 late-psych/early folk-prog classic. They also kick ass live. The first time we saw them, their drummer had two kickdrums with the band name on them & twirled his sticks in between snare hits. How cool is that? > 22- Daydream Believer (live from SF, CA 05/01/94) > Not nearly trashy enough. Who does backing vocals? By whom is this song? Joe Mallon jmmallon@joescafe.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:05:24 EST From: LeftyZ@aol.com Subject: Re: [loud-fans] overdue mix review #2 In a message dated 12/5/03 12:06:19 AM, sleeveless@zoominternet.net writes: << 13- She Lives in a Time of Her Own- 13th Floor Elevators Still very cool. >> Does anyone know.....is this the original of the song from the JudyBats first? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 12:13:11 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: [loud-fans] overdue mix review #2 At 01:05 PM 12/5/2003 -0500, LeftyZ@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 12/5/03 12:06:19 AM, sleeveless@zoominternet.net writes: > ><< 13- She Lives in a Time of Her Own- 13th Floor Elevators > >Still very cool. >> > >Does anyone know.....is this the original of the song from the JudyBats first? Yup. The Judybats actually didn't know the original until WB asked them to contribute a track to the Roky trib, WHERE THE PYRAMID MEETS THE EYE. The song appears there as well as on the Judybats' NATIVE SONS. la la la la-ing my way through life, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 10:16:54 -0800 From: Steve Holtebeck Subject: Re: [loud-fans] overdue mix review #2 LeftyZ@aol.com wrote: > << 13- She Lives in a Time of Her Own- 13th Floor Elevators > Still very cool. >> > > Does anyone know.....is this the original of the song from the JudyBats > first? Same song.. The Judybats also covered it on the Roky Erickson tribute WHERE THE PYRAMID MEETS THE EYE. The original is on EASTER EVERYWHERE. Joe: > > 22- Daydream Believer (live from SF, CA 05/01/94) > > Not nearly trashy enough. Who does backing vocals? > > By whom is this song? Paul Westerberg - -Steve ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 13:28:06 -0500 From: "Aaron Milenski" Subject: [loud-fans] "Thirty Three and a Third series" Does anyone here know where I can find an on-line list of all of the books in this series? Has anyone read any of them? Seems like a neat idea, and they pick two of my very, very favorite albums in FOREVER CHANGES and VILLAGE GREEN PRESERVATION SOCIETY. Aaron _________________________________________________________________ Dont worry if your Inbox will max out while you are enjoying the holidays. Get MSN Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 12:31:44 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: [loud-fans] overdue mix review #2 At 09:35 AM 12/5/2003 -0800, Steve Holtebeck wrote: >> 8- He'd Be a Diamond- The Bevis Frond >> Throw in a Rick and this could be a Roger McGuinn song. > >This album (NEW RIVER HEAD) was just reissued. This is my favorite >Frond song, and it's been covered by Teenage Fanclub and Mary Lou Lord. >The album itself is dragged down by too many 17-minute long solo-fests >(it only has one, but that's still too many), and people who can write >songs like "He'd Be A Diamond" shouldn't have to pad their albums with >stuff like that. Note to self for future Steve H. swap discs: * no dance music - see * no 17-minute long solo-fests Steve, really and truly, I didn't aim to bug you by putting "Cocaine Sex" on that tape. Hopefully putting Shannon's "Let the Music Play" on the 1983 disc of WHICH WEIGHS MORE? wasn't a repeat of that experience, plus I thought for historical purposes, there wasn't a more important single in '83, bridging hip-hop, electric funk, and traditional R&B. However, it's always nice to be a superlative. I think NEW RIVER HEAD is the best Bevis Frond album (and I like the 17-minute solo fest!) though I'll admit to owning only, oh, 3/4 of the BF catalog, and not playing some albums enough to learn what if anything distinguishes them from the others. Coming up: some reviews of carbon-dated swap tapes/CDs, first up being Steve's SUMMERTIME AND THE LISTENING IS EASY... later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 13:43:09 -0500 From: "John Swartzentruber" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] "Thirty Three and a Third series" On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 13:28:06 -0500, Aaron Milenski wrote: >Does anyone here know where I can find an on-line list of >all of the books in this series? Is this it? > http://www.continuumbooks.com/series_details.cgi?sid=311&ssid=OWA42QPEU5CQFE9AMLX27O ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 14:09:52 -0500 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: [loud-fans] overdue mix review #2 At 09:35 AM 12/5/2003 -0800, Steve Holtebeck wrote: >> 7- Golden Clouds- Flamin' Groovies >> Bit of a rockabilly flavor to this one, but still very garage. > >>From the SNEAKERS ep, probably the first self-released DIY rock & roll >album (did any bands put out their own record before 1968?). I interviewed Dick Scoppetone of Harpers Bizarre a couple of years ago, around the time the Sundazed reissues came out, and he said that his early '60s folk group back home in San Jose had released a pair of singles on their own label in 1962. I forget their name, and the tape is packed away down in the basement. But anyway, the West Coast Pop Art Experimental Band self-released their first album (the one that Sundazed reissued a few years ago) in 1966. S ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 14:25:05 -0500 From: "Aaron Milenski" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] overdue mix review #2 > >>From the SNEAKERS ep, probably the first self-released DIY rock & roll > >album (did any bands put out their own record before 1968?). SNEAKERS is one of the real prizes in my own collection! There were quite a few DIY albums in 1966 and 1966. Stewart mentione he WCPAEB album, and if you look at any rich psychedelic collector's want list you'll see dozens, even hundreds, of them. In the Groovies' home area of San Francisco, there were a series of self-released EPs, collected as THE BERKELEY EPs, by Country Joe, Mad River, etc... These ame out in 1967 or so. SNEAKERS is special, though, in that it's the first one I can think of that actually got some press and recognition at the time it was released. _________________________________________________________________ Cell phone switch rules are taking effect  find out more here. http://special.msn.com/msnbc/consumeradvocate.armx ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:35:51 -0800 From: "Micah Bedwell" Subject: [loud-fans] Land Ho! I have discovered the joy that is "Team Boo" by Mates of State. There from Kansas, thank you very much. I haven't been this giddy since Tiger Trap. Micah Bedwell System Administrator DonSueMor, Inc. micah@donsuemor.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:14:42 -0800 From: "Micah Bedwell" Subject: RE: [loud-fans] Land Ho! I have to correct this, or spend all weekend agonizing over it. "They're" does not equal "There." Gah. Micah Bedwell System Administrator DonSueMor, Inc. micah@donsuemor.com - -----Original Message----- From: Micah Bedwell Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 12:36 PM To: loud-fans@smoe.org Subject: [loud-fans] Land Ho! I have discovered the joy that is "Team Boo" by Mates of State. There from Kansas, thank you very much. I haven't been this giddy since Tiger Trap. Micah Bedwell System Administrator DonSueMor, Inc. micah@donsuemor.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 16:03:14 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: [loud-fans] carbon-dated swap review #1: Steve Holtebeck's swap discs (pt. 1 of 2) In 2002, Steve sent me a double-disc set, SUMMERTIME AND THE LISTENING IS EASY. So now I've listened to it for two summers in a row but failed to write a review... until now, with winter creeping in. But this typically creative swap should fill any listener's ears with the warmth and lassitude of long summer afternoons. As anyone knows who's gotten a Steve swap, Our Mixmaster does a fair amount of mixing and editing on his discs, so there's lots of songs (53 between these two discs, not counting some snippets here and there!), and each disc is jammed to capacity with goodies. Taking the quasi-titular Gershwin lyric semi-seriously, and inspired by a choice quote from me about orchestralEZlisseningchambersoftpop, each of these two discs has a theme: CD1 is "Summertime," a bunch of songs about or mentioning or just feeling like summer; CD2 is "Easy Listening," a bunch of songs that feature the word "easy" and/or are easy listening. Plus there's a cool sheet o' liner notes, spiced by an affectionate (I think/hope!) dig or three... :-) CD1: SUMMERTIME pre-01 - snippet from... Will Smith's "Summertime"? 01: The Zombies, "Summertime" Actually, here's a group that I *like* who sometimes veer into "lush" territory. The Gershwin song itself here, of course. 02: The Young Fresh Fellows, "Taco Wagon" Because it's mostly an instrumental, no chance to mention how I'm always bumfuzzled by the difference between McCaughey's singing live, which has an Ian Hunter-esque fullness to match his copping of Hunter's hair and shades, and his oft-tinny vocalizings on record. Fun song with a nasty guitar solo! 03: The Cyrkle, "Turn Down Day" Steve says this is their followup hit to "Red Rubber Ball," "more minor but better." Not my thing -- the choices on harmonies especially (ex: whatever they're doing when they sing "and I dig it"). 04: The Chills, "Double Summer" On the other hand, this is exactly my thing, a slice of smart '80s pop from Martin Phillipps. 05: Yo La Tengo, "The Summer" Also exactly my thing, a gorgeous moody piece from Yo La Tengo's FAKEBOOK. One of the five originals on the album. 06: The Chocolate Watchband, "Misty Lane" The choruses have that sorta psychedelic organ-thing (settle down, Beavis, I mean *the musical instrument*), but the verses are more raw garagey. Nice. 07: Love, "Bummer in the Summer" Hey, that's why it sounded familiar when I started playing FOREVER CHANGES last week! :-) Love the Bo Diddley interludes. Why would someone have "papers" on you? Is it like your permanent record card or something? Inquiring minds want to know. 08: War, "Summer" "8-track playin' all your favorite sounds" indeed. The intersection of barrio percussive cool with EZ sounds -- not something I'd ever pick for myself, but quintessentially early '70s. 09: Ladybug Transistor, "Like a Summer Rain" A Jan and Dean cover -- boy, the vocals on this sound very Magnetic Fields-y. Hm. Moving on... 10: Sly and the Family Stone, "Hot Fun in the Summertime" Prince looted the vocal sound a thousand times; Genesis stole from it for "Misunderstanding"'s choruses; sounds timelessly great regardless of how often it's pilfered. 11: The Lovin' Spoonful, "Summer in the City" When I was 10 or 11 and getting interested in popular music, my aunt and her husband let me borrow a box of LPs they'd liked in college. The contents included AQUALUNG, WHO'S NEXT, Three Dog Night, the Grass Roots, and... a Lovin' Spoonful album. Ever since then, I've liked this. Enthuses Steve, "best breakdown ever!" 12: Belle & Sebastian, "A Summer Wasting" "It's not a loud-swap without a B&S song. At least this is a short one," sez Steve. Thanks for that! I hadn't thought before that B&S was a personal dislike because of the vocal approach, but I catch myself thinking that I'd like this if Morrissey sang it instead. 13: Amy Rigby, "The Summer of My Wasted Youth" But Steve makes up for B&S by following it with an artist and song that I absolutely love. "*Nashville's own* Amy Rigby," says Steve, and suddenly I realize that I should quit making jokes that no one but me might get -- one of the Nashville things that Melissa and I find provincial and endlessly amusing about Nashville is how any local native achieving prominence will be referred to on local TV and in the TENNESSEAN with their hometown as a near-sobriquet: "Franklin's Darrell Waltrip," "Nashville's Reese Witherspoon," etc. So when I say "Nashville's Reese Witherspoon," the intent is parodic rather than booster-iffic, but since y'all don't get the TENNESSEAN or watch our local TV, how would you know that? I'm glad Amy's here now, and the song's one of her best. 14: Billy Stewart, "Summertime" Version Two of the Gershwin. Scat. Huh. 15: Seals & Crofts, "Summer Breeze" What are you doing here, trying to kill me? Incidentally, I guess they could be "Nashville's Seals & Crofts," since both principals have relocated here. It's the Elephant's Graveyard of rock, I tell ya. 16: Chad & Jeremy, "Summer Song" I think this was on one of my first rock purchases, a double-length Best of British Rock!-type cassette. It had "Massachusetts" by the Bee Gees, "Pictures of Matchstick Men," "Layla," um, lots of 1965-71 stuff, heavy on the Merseybeat. 17: The Ramones, "Rockaway Beach" After the last two songs, this sounds louder than the Nooge torturing cows within a three-square-mile radius of his 1980 tour of American sheds. The Ramones are a Good Thing, period. 18: Antonio Carlos Jobim, "Wave" A relaxing summery bossa nova interlude -- resort, cocktails, sophistication. 19: The Jamies, "Summertime Summertime" I never knew who did this! So it's really cool to have it in my collection now! For a vocal group (I guess that's what they were, right?), it's surprisingly unprofessional, almost veering out of key in every measure, but never jumping the tracks either. That accident almost happening thing is part of its appeal, methinks. 20: The Lilac Time, "Jeans + Summer" Somehow the Lilac Time were one of those bands I read about but never bought or knowingly heard. Now that I've heard them, I'm on the fence -- I like this jaunty but relaxed song just fine, dig the key change and lovely female backing vocal, and overall it reminds me of the lighter moments of the Go-Betweens. But I can easily picture a descent into midtempoland at album length. 21: Marshall Crenshaw, "Starless Summer Sky" I don't know if I'll ever be a major MC fan, but thanks to Tom Krueger's off-list efforts, I've flipped for his 1985 album DOWNTOWN, which strikes me as the album its producer, T-Bone Burnett, could well have made between PROOF THROUGH THE NIGHT and T-BONE BURNETT. It also strikes me as a spectacular peak in the career of a solid craftsman, like Chris Isaak's FOREVER BLUE. Anyway, this is a typical Crenshaw song: well-done in every respect, welcome when I hear it, but blending in with his other stuff when I'm trying to think about it later. 22: The Chantays, "Pipeline" Another song I'd heard forever but never owned anywhere! Excellent! 23: Baby Lemonade, "Summer Song" Keeping it in the Arthur Lee family, sorta. Doesn't suffer from overorchestration, but seems like another victim of its associated side effect, midtempoitis. 24: Grandaddy, "Summer Here Kids" I've been on the fence about buying one of their albums for what seems like forever; reviews are generally uniformly enthusiastic, but usually half the names dropped in comparisons are things I like, while the other half reads like my musical enemies list. And hearing this song hasn't made up my mind either -- like the dynamics and how on the choruses the singer's vocal gets discordant and so loud that it fuzzes out the mic. I can also picture this going all Pavementsy too. 25: From Bubblegum To Sky, "You of Summer" It's like the Go-Gos backed by Tortoise. '70s horn alert! Damn '70s horns. 26: Eddie Cochran, "Summertime Blues" Still unstoppable after all these years. 27: Allen Clapp, "Open Door" "Not about summer, but I needed a short song here." I was wondering! From AVAILABLE LIGHT, which I don't have. More Bacharachy than I remember the first Allen Clapp album or the Orange Peels' debut being (I liked both of 'em pretty well), but then again, it's only 90 seconds long, and I like it when he sings "and my heart is an open door." 28: Miles Davis & Gil Evans, "Summertime" Version Three of the Gershwin. All right by me. Disc Two comin' up... later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 17:24:56 -0500 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Re: [loud-fans] carbon-dated swap review #1: Steve Holtebeck's swap discs (pt. 1 of 2) At 04:03 PM 12/5/2003 -0600, Miles Goosens wrote: >07: Love, "Bummer in the Summer" >Hey, that's why it sounded familiar when I started playing FOREVER CHANGES >last week! :-) Love the Bo Diddley interludes. Why would someone have >"papers" on you? Is it like your permanent record card or something? >Inquiring minds want to know. I think he means in the marriage license sense, or something along those lines. S ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 17:38:29 -0500 From: Jenny Grover Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Swaps Joseph M. Mallon wrote: >>22- Daydream Believer (live from SF, CA 05/01/94) >>Not nearly trashy enough. Who does backing vocals? >> >> > >By whom is this song? > > > Oops! Sorry. Paul Westerberg. I just forgot to type it in. Jen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:41:42 -0800 (PST) From: Phil Fleming Subject: Re: [loud-fans] Swaps Actually, BEHIND THE MUSIC is their 3rd record. EXTENDED REVELATION FOR THE PSYCHIC WEAKLINGS IF WESTERN CIVILIZATION is the 2nd record. While still good, the 2nd record is a bit 'quieter' than the other two. The debut, WELCOME TO THE INFANT FREEBASE has some great psychedelic pop. Phil F. NP: my niece running in the background - --- "Joseph M. Mallon" wrote: > > 19- Lone Summer Dream- The Soundtrack of Our Lives > > I like this, especially the verse melody. Tell me > more. > > Fantastic Swedish band whose 2nd album BEHIND THE > MUSIC is like a lost > 1972 late-psych/early folk-prog classic. They also > kick ass live. The > first time we saw them, their drummer had two > kickdrums with the band name > on them & twirled his sticks in between snare hits. > How cool is that? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 17:29:42 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: [loud-fans] carbon-dated swap review #1: Steve Holtebeck's swap discs (pt. 2 of 2) The second disc of this swap from Steve... CD2: EASY LISTENING 01: The Rutles, "Easy Listening" "Why don't we do it in the middle of the road?" is a priceless line. 02: Dusty Springfield, "No Easy Way Down" One of those songs from classic DUSTY IN MEMPHIS, but I'm always iffy on Goffin/King... 03: Three Dog Night, "Easy To Be Hard" Not only "easy," but, as Steve points out, the third song on the CD -- heh! It's not a bad song either -- lordy, is Three Dog Night underrated? Never thought I'd utter that phrase... 04: Bobby Sherman, "Easy Come, Easy Go" He must have been the teenybopper idol of kids far enough ahead of me in school for me to never have encountered him, because I swear I never heard of him until I was an adult. The girls in my 3rd class were strictly Shaun Cassidy or Leif Garrett. 05: The Fifth Dimension, "Paper Cup" Fifth Dimension, Song #5... taking me back to my mom's reel-to-reel player. What are you doing here, trying to kill me? But boy, does one of the singers sound like Stew or what? Did Stew cop his entire vocal sound from this guy? 06: The Webb Brothers, "All the Cocaine in the World" From a Jimmy Webb song to a song by his sons... huh. Not a lot of words to this one, so I wonder what it's like in the context of an album. Tough to judge from the sample size here. 07: The Walker Brothers, "Make It Easy on Yourself" Bacharach/David crossed with the Righteous Brothers... what are you doing here, trying to kill me? 08: Chris von Sneidern, "Everything I Own" A Bread cover? What are you doing here, trying to... wait, maybe chicks would dig this. I do like CvS, though it's been a long while since I played one of his CDs. In his hands, this comes off sounding like a lesser Crowded House song. 09: The Byrds, "Ballad of Easy Rider" For someone who likes the spiritual descendants of the Byrds and Gram Parsons so much, I've remained surprisingly indifferent to the originals. Phil Gerrard mailed me a two-cassette Byrds sampler a few years ago, but it got lost somewhere over the Atlantic and never hit my mailbox, and I've not explored further on my own since. 10: Climax, "Precious and Few" Moving on... 11A: hip-hop, "get your freak on" repeated over and over, will be embarrassed when I don't recognize it. 11: Downy Mildew, "Leaving on a Jet Plane/Sunday Morning" The "Murder Medley," but isn't this more like a round, since the songs are going on simultaneously and wrapping around each other? Anyway, it's weirdly inspired and it works. 12: Duglas T. Stewart, "My Baby Loves Lovin'" The BMX Bandits guy, says Steve, but I don't even know who that is. Other than a lil' more guitar mixed to the back, not really that different from the hit version. 13: Faith No More, "Easy" Yup, the FNM boys indulging Mike Patton's weirdo jones for EZ Lion-el (as opposed to Funky Lion-el). 14: Guided By Voices, "A Big Fan of the Pigpen" Steve needles, does damage. Anyway, he says he put it on here not just to bug me, but because it has a line about "soft rock renegades." I still think there's something inherently prog about GbV, even if I can't properly explain to doug what I'm hearing. Is the soft rock cacophony (coming after it sounds like the song has ended) a part of this? 15: Beulah, "Gravity's Bringing Us Down" I'll have to use this on a mix, putting it adjacent to "Van Allen Belt" ("gravity sucks our energy, yeah yeah") by Nashville's own Jet Black Factory. I own THE COAST IS NEVER CLEAR but it never really stuck in my head. This song from that album does the same thing: I like it when I hear it and the components that make up the songs seem well-chosen, but I have trouble remembering what it sounds like when it's not playing. Dig the Sonic Youth-like groaning guitar noise at the end. 16: Astropuppies, "Stuck in the Middle" Cover of Stealer's Wheel's classic Dylan ripoff. Query: Do I not think of this song as easy listening because I like it? This arrangement sounds like a minimalistic Sheryl Crow. Good stuff. 17: Brad Jones, "Let's Pretend" Nashville's own uberproducer, though I think his star has dimmed over the last couple of years -- for instance, I *hated* the way the last Shazam album was mixed. Live, those songs rock harder than anything the group's ever done, but the album mixes scrunch things up, abandon the low end, and do the group no justice. That's especially puzzling since Brad produced their other stuff. But anyway, Jones-as-performer here hits notes that make Our Scott and Mitch Easter sound like Tom Waits, with backing vox toward the end that recall Queen, all on a Raspberries cover. 18: Jill Olson, "Sister Golden Hair" Ain't that America. I like Jill, but not the song. 19: The Loud Family, "Horse With No Name" Back-to-back America covers -- irresistible! Our Scott and crew rock the living h-e-doublehockeysticks out of this 'un. Everything tastes better with giant distortion. And everyone knows that this is where PABARAT got its name, right? Yes, because of the "pabarat" sound the maracas make. 20: My Morning Jacket, "Rocket Man" A song from back in those primordial days when Elton was pretty decent. Kate Bush's version is my favorite. Hey, Steve, you were on the leading edge of MMJ appreciation! Sounds almost like Chris Whitley early on in the song (vocally, that is). Can't really tell from this whether I'd like more by 'em or not. 21: Pavement, "The Killing Moon" What are you doing here, trying to kill me? One of my all-time favorite songs covered by one of my all-time least favorite bands. Strangely, the guitar and tempo sound like the answer to "what if Neil Young covered 'The Killing Moon'?" They also work in lyrics from "Thorn of Crowns" and "The Yo-Yo Man," which IMO is pretty pointless, and as usual I find the vocal style infuriating, but it's not as bad as I envisioned. 22: The Posies, "Ooh Child" A band I like covering a song I hate. Maybe I'd like *this* better in a medley! :-) 23: R.E.M., "Romance" "Easy come, easy go," get it? But not a Bobby Sherman cover. Very early R.E.M. track that morphed into a couple of other R.E.M. tracks, even though I don't think it surfaced officially till '87 or so... 24: Elliott Smith, "Easy Way Out" Says Steve, "GBV, Pavement, Elliott Smith. Throw Stereolab in here somewhere and I'd have a Miles grand slam!" Hey, what can I add to that? 25: Gameo, "Erica's Word (Cut Up)" "Gameo = Game Theory + Cameo, much less than the sum of the parts." Yes, it's Erica's Word Up! With commentary from Kajagoogoo, no less. All the seams are showing, but it's fun to watch as it lurches back and forth. And that's it! Thanks to Steve, whose showed a lot of humor and good will with SUMMERTIME AND THE LISTENING IS EASY; he's also shown a lot of patience in waiting for this review. Also remember that Steve knew what he was getting into with this, just as sure as I would if I sent Steve a Renegade Soundwave comp. Plus even if I'm not keen on the EZ style, a summer-themed CD is the perfect context for the songs that Steve chose... As for me, I've enjoyed mentally composing my review almost as much as I've enjoyed the CDs! :-) Hope some of my genuine enthusiasm for the CDs *and* the guy who put them together translated into the actual review. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 17:34:46 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: [loud-fans] carbon-dated swap review #1: Steve Holtebeck's swap discs (pt. 1 of 2) At 05:24 PM 12/5/2003 -0500, Stewart Mason wrote: >At 04:03 PM 12/5/2003 -0600, Miles Goosens wrote: >>07: Love, "Bummer in the Summer" >>Hey, that's why it sounded familiar when I started playing FOREVER CHANGES >>last week! :-) Love the Bo Diddley interludes. Why would someone have >>"papers" on you? Is it like your permanent record card or something? >>Inquiring minds want to know. > >I think he means in the marriage license sense, or something along those >lines. I hadn't thought of that, though I was thinking "official" was implied -- and/or inside info, as in having something to hold over the other person. I guess "marriage license" could fit that last phrase too. That's what I get for not listening to it with Melissa, who probably would have suggested it immediately... Thanks, Stewart! later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 19:54:57 -0500 From: "Paul King" Subject: Re: [loud-fans] carbon-dated swap review #1: Steve Holtebeck's swap discs (pt. 2 of 2) > 04: Bobby Sherman, "Easy Come, Easy Go" > He must have been the teenybopper idol of kids far enough ahead of me in school > for me to never have encountered him, because I swear I never heard of him until > I was an adult. The girls in my 3rd class were strictly Shaun Cassidy or Leif > Garrett. > You're right. Sherman is 1970. Both Cassidy and Garrett did not score a hit until 1977. Sherman wasn't a heartthrob in his own day either. From what I recall of my Grade 2 class, Donny Osmond scored better on the girls' radar at that time. I vaguely recall Michael Jackson (both Michael and Donny were no older than 8 years old) were also a hit with the young ladies in Grade 2. Paul King ========================================================= Paul King http://www3.sympatico.ca/pking123/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 22:44:24 -0500 From: glenn mcdonald Subject: [loud-fans] list prep New releases seem to be pretty much done for the year, which means it's time to start thinking about end-of-the-year lists again. This always makes me nervous that there have been great things released in the last month or so that I've somehow missed and won't discover in time because I'm not in an exploratory mode. So: anybody have any late arrivals they want to stump for? I'll start: _Per Second, Per Second, Per Second...Every Second_, by Wheat. Like how Jimmy Eat World might have turned out if they hadn't gone pop, and the second Boston-area album this year to include at least one flagrant Thin Lizzy homage. Samples of all tracks at http://www.wheatmusic.com/preview/; "I Met a Girl" is the quasi-single, and if you only have time for a couple others try "Some Days" and "Closer to Mercury". glenn ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 23:10:14 -0500 From: Jenny Grover Subject: Re: [loud-fans] list prep glenn mcdonald wrote: > New releases seem to be pretty much done for the year, which means > it's time to start thinking about end-of-the-year lists again. This > always makes me nervous that there have been great things released in > the last month or so that I've somehow missed and won't discover in > time because I'm not in an exploratory mode. So: anybody have any late > arrivals they want to stump for? Mark Lanegan- Here Comes That Weird Chill Raw, experimental, sometimes psychedelic. Not his usual solo fare. It really threw some Lanegan list fans on first listen, but all seem to agree it's a real grower, and really good. He even covers Captain Beefheart. Jen ------------------------------ End of loud-fans-digest V3 #353 *******************************